1st gen gsx msd installing questions

[Yellow_GSX]

Hi.

Im mounting an msd dis2 plus into my car with separate coils, now i wish to find out witch cables coming out of the sensor located at my camshaft, i dont know the name of the sensor, but there are four cables coming out of the sensor with the colors:
red-to positive
black-to ground
yellow-? is one of two triggers?
white-? the other trigger?

can you help me find out witch of the cables is supposed to trigger 1st and 3rd plug
and 2nd and 4th plug i hope you understand my problems, and my spelling is not the best cause im from sweden

great regards Jonas

 

[Colt4G63 also]

The ECU has to decipher the sensor signal. One part of the sensor sends pulses evenly as the crank rotates, and the other segment of the sensor sends a refrence pulse to signal #1 TDC. Two seprate waveforms simultaneously:

____^________^______
^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^

 

[slowboy101]

Do you have a Chilton? It tells you in there, if you dont have a Chilton I will look thru mine tonight and let you know.

 

[Yellow_GSX]

so.....

how will i be able to wire it right, it says in the installation manual that i shall connect the white wire to the first factory trigger, and my green wire to the second factory trigger.
or is the most easy thing to buy a triggerwheel kit


@slowboy101


whats a Chilton couldent find out on google translate?

 

[steve]

It looks like he's done a carb conversion and might not have an ECU anymore.
If that's the case things get interesting, does the MSD do the timing advance?

 

[Yellow_GSX]

It looks like he's done a carb conversion and might not have an ECU anymore.
If that's the case things get interesting, does the MSD do the timing advance?

Yes ive done a carb conversion and there are none of the original wires left....the carbs are weber 45s for those who want to know.....
and im using a non turbo engine

ill post some more pictures...

so
timing advance whats that? im a newbie to this electrics im better with my real tools....

 

[steve]

On a car without electronic control the timing is advanced either via rotating weights and springs in the "Distributor" or by vacuum control. The CAS on your engine have neither. It's designed to feed two reference signals to the Engine Control Unit which then figures out the timing advance based on load and RPM and it fires the coils. Since you don't have an ECU you'll need to do this yourself somehow.

 

[Yellow_GSX]

so i need to get myself a triggerkit like this?

MSD Ignition 8655 - MSD Flying Magnet Crank Trigger - Overview - SummitRacing.com

thanks

 

[steve]

Which MSD DIS-2 Plus do you have?

Without an ECU in the car you'll need something like this:
Midget DIS-2 Programmable Race Ignition - 6214

 

[Yellow_GSX]

this is the one ive got:

MSD DIS-2 Plus High Output - 62113

 

[steve]

That's what I thought. It's just an ignition amp and without an ECU or timing controller you won't be able to drive it.