1g BOV install on a 2g eclipse?

[Slow95gst]

I've read on some of the stickies you can use a 1g BOV for you 2g eclipse, instead of getting a new BOV for essentially a lot more money...

How do i go about finding a 1g BOV? I don't know anyone who has one and their aren't many junk yards around here...Even if their was, i highly doubt i would find a BOV....

Would it be better to go to an advanced auto parts and order a 1g BOV? If this doesn't work, maybe the dealer? Either way, seems like it would be cheaper...

Do i need anything else for the install, or just the 1g BOV?

I'm new and used to have domestic. (sorry for stupid questions)

 

[Winglessflight]

Get on craigslist and see who the nearest DSMer is that's parting out his car. Or make a road trip to a U pull it somewhere. For the install, you can make a flange yourself with a small piece of 1" piping (muffler shop scrap) and make a flange out of 1/4" or 1/8" steel using the bottom of your newly acquired BOV to make a template. Then you can go to a muffler shop and they'll probably weld it for free, or you could throw them $5-$10. Then all you need is a gasket (Slowboy racing has em) and a clamp. Remember to recirculate it!!

 

[spawn87]

im pretty sure you can get an adapter flange for the bov on ebay for like 20 as for the bov its self i say craigslist.com they go for about 40 .

 

[Slow95gst]

So, you guys are saying if i get a 1g BOV, the flange is different? I would need to make one? I can't visual this, so i'm not sure what the problem is...

Would it just be easier to buy a BOV that recirculates...Honestly, i don't feel like going to U-pull it and all that...I just need to know what i need with a 1g BOV? Isn't it as simple as taking my BOV off and just putting the 1g in it's place? Where is the problem?

I just got this car, so keep in mind your talking to someone who has no idea what it looks like when removed, or what the 1g BOV looks like, compared to my current...

 

[crimsondragon]

The problem is the way it's installed. The UICP is rubber where as the 1g has a metal charge pipe for the 1g bov flange. The 2g is just basically held down by a clamp. That's the problem right there. Search 1g bov in the gallery. There will be plenty of pictures.

 

[copper]

Here is a picture of the 2 bov's next to each other

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Notice how the 1g bov has an adapter flange bolted on it which makes it so you can put it on your stock upper intercooler pipe

 

[shredwin]

So, you guys are saying if i get a 1g BOV, the flange is different? I would need to make one? I can't visual this, so i'm not sure what the problem is...

Would it just be easier to buy a BOV that recirculates...Honestly, i don't feel like going to U-pull it and all that...I just need to know what i need with a 1g BOV? Isn't it as simple as taking my BOV off and just putting the 1g in it's place? Where is the problem?

I just got this car, so keep in mind your talking to someone who has no idea what it looks like when removed, or what the 1g BOV looks like, compared to my current...

the flages are different, and if you want to run a 1g BOV then yes your gonna have to do a little modding. I had to modify a flange so I could run my HKS BOV with my stock piping, its kinda hard to explain when your not looking at both BOV's.

 

[Slow95gst]

Ahh, i see. I'm understanding a bit more. So basically since the 1g BOV has an extra piece on the side, you need to do something about this?

Also, what is the advantage to buying a new HKS, or whatever brand BOV? (recirculating) Would this be as simple as taking my old one out and just bolting this one up?

Is their a difference in sound?

Does a BOV make the noise in between shifts louder?

I want to have a good sound...

 

[shredwin]

Ahh, i see. I'm understanding a bit more. So basically since the 1g BOV has an extra piece on the side, you need to do something about this?

Also, what is the advantage to buying a new HKS, or whatever brand BOV? (recirculating) Would this be as simple as taking my old one out and just bolting this one up?

Is their a difference in sound?

Does a BOV make the noise in between shifts louder?

I want to have a good sound...

your plastic 2g BOV is a push type BOV... the HKS SSQV is a pull type. and yes there is a difference in sound. I would check youtube.com if you wanna hear some of those BOV, a lot of them are gonna be vented when you hear them.. and im sure any BOV you purchase is gonna have a different flange than the plastic stock 2g one.

 

[spawn87]

if you dont want to do the extra work and fav then just get a bov kit for the 2nd gen eclipse
hks and greddy make kits with the flange and ready to install and they both come with adapters to make them recirculating your going spend more money this way between 200-300 but it thats what u want...

option two is get a dejon with the 1g bov flange buy ## bov and call it a day ## looking at 150 give or take.

DEJON | Powerhouse

 

[98GSXtreme07]

Lets see if I can help make things easier.

You have 2 options:

Regardless of which option you take, you'll need these things:

A 1g BOV
1g BOV gasket and the 2 screws to secure it to the new UICP or the adapter flange
Screws and Gasket: DEJON | Powerhouse (You'll have to click around) BOV-Misc-Tools/BOV-F

Now onto the Options:

1. Buy an adapter flange for your stock UICP. Attach the flange to the stock UICP and than seal the BOV to the flange, with black or grey RTV (you only need a little bit), and secure the screws.
Pictures of the flange: Street Tuned Motorsports.com - Rochester NY
The actual link to it: STM - DSM | BOV | Wastegate | Boost Controller | Turbo Timer | Turbo Gaskets | Flanges (You'll have to scroll down)
Screws and Gasket: DEJON | Powerhouse (You'll have to click around)

2. Buy a new UICP such as these:
DEJON | Powerhouse (You'll have to click around)
RRE's Eclipse Intake and Exhaust Upgrades (You'll have to scroll down)
Screws and Gasket: DEJON | Powerhouse (You'll have to click around)

Also just a suggestion, not cheap either, but the Evo IX BOV works too. An actual bolt on affair.

 

[tkelly27]

I think you might still be missing this part. The 1g bolts to a flange on a hard pipe the stock application like this
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/jefrom19/Stuff for sale/DSCN2232.jpg

Yours doesn't have a flange, it has a rubber tube from your IC pipes and that clamps around the bottom much like a radiator or any of your other IC piping, just smaller. That's why to put something like a 1G on without hard pipes, you'll need to have the adapter like this
https://secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/images/3019lg.jpg

All aftermarket valves have different ways of attaching to the pipe. There is no real benefit over a 1g. Well, sort of. The 1g can leak above a certain boost level, but you can modify it so it won't. Aftermarket ones are typically adjustable, but the 1g meets the needs of nearly everyone while being cheap and easy to use. Honestly, if you needed a more advanced valve you wouldn't have to ask if you needed it or how to mount it.

As far as sound goes, the 1g is the loudest and best sounding valve I've ever used. I've used nearly all the after market ones in vented and recirculated applications and I like the 1g the best. Sound should not be an important factor in your choice though, as many factors such as boost level and piping can really effect the sound.