17x8 on 1g

[xhaust50]

will 17x8 with 5.72 backspacing (30mm ish offset) fit a 1g that isn't lowered? Either 235/45 or 245/40. I searched, but when looking through wheel and tire sizes the search engine doesn't keep the order. If I type 245/40/17, it gives me a thread with all of the numbers, but not in order. Thanks.

P.S. They are off of a 99 Mustang GT.

 

[90AWDTalon]

will 17x8 with 5.72 backspacing (30mm ish offset) fit a 1g that isn't lowered? Either 235/45 or 245/40. I searched, but when looking through wheel and tire sizes the search engine doesn't keep the order. If I type 245/40/17, it gives me a thread with all of the numbers, but not in order. Thanks.

P.S. They are off of a 99 Mustang GT.

I've got 17X8 with 40mm offset + 5mm spacer for an effective 35mm offset. I run 245/45/17 Kumho Victoracers for tires. I have h&R springs, I think about 1.3 inches lower than stock. I had to roll my front fenders to avoid rubbing, I still rub a little bit at full turn on the inner fender well, but with you're larger offset I wouldn't expect that to be an issue. Just maybe the fender lip, my tire height is between the two you're thinking about. 25.3" vs. 25.5 or 24.8. Rear is no problem.

 

[xhaust50]

I'm also looking at cobra rims, but they come with 255/45/17's. Will this width be out of the question? I might get the wheels anyway and sell the tires.

 

[stirpicult]

i am running 245/40 on 17x8's with a 40 offset. i am sticking out about 1/4 of an inch. you have 10mm more to stick out. so that means, your wheel will be sticking out more than half an inch (if i am calculating this all right).
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
i would pass.

and with 255/45 series tires, your speedo is going to be off A LOT. when your speedo is reading 70, you'll actually be doing closer to 74, not including however much the stock one is off (diameter difference is almost 5%). and because of the huge gearing change your acceleration will be noticeably slower.
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
i would pass again

 

[Goobdog]

Just to make sure im understanding 100% ill ask. Im looking at some 17x8 rota boost wheels with a 48mm offset. I will run 245/40/17 tires, which puts me close to stock. I put in 6 inch width with a 46mm offset for the current, 8 inch width and 48mm offset for the new wheels. It says inner clearance 19mm less, outer position extend 31mm. Is that saying its going towards the suspension 19mm more and it also is going to go towards the fender 31mm ? I know the question is simple but I like to cover all my bases. I added some pictures for reference.

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[tstkl]

I measured my rims the other day and they are 6.5 inches wide. Dunno what yours are, but I have 16 inch 1g swirlies. if your rim is 16 inches, I doubt they went down in width over the years. mitsu tends to go bigger when it comes to wheels.

 

[jtmcinder]

I measured my rims the other day and they are 6.5 inches wide. Dunno what yours are, but I have 16 inch 1g swirlies. if your rim is 16 inches, I doubt they went down in width over the years. mitsu tends to go bigger when it comes to wheels.

All of the 16" alloys that came on DSMs are only 6" wide. You measure between the insides of the lips, not the outsides. The only DSMs that came with 6.5"-wide wheels are the 2Gs on 17" wheels.

- Jtoby

 

[stirpicult]

Just to make sure im understanding 100% ill ask. Im looking at some 17x8 rota boost wheels with a 48mm offset. I will run 245/40/17 tires, which puts me close to stock. I put in 6 inch width with a 46mm offset for the current, 8 inch width and 48mm offset for the new wheels. It says inner clearance 19mm less, outer position extend 31mm. Is that saying its going towards the suspension 19mm more and it also is going to go towards the fender 31mm ? I know the question is simple but I like to cover all my bases. I added some pictures for reference.

19mm+ 31mm = 50mm which equals 2 inches. so that's right.
yes, 19mm in, and 31mm out. but using that calculator, i got 27mm in, 23 out. so that's around an inch less room between the wheel and the suspension. figure that the tire will be out a little from the lip of the wheel, so that's even less clearance.
that offset isn't very good. you will be rubbing on the inside, more than likely.

 

[Mark S.]

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17 X 8's on my 94, eibach sportlines, kyb agx's, ingalls rear camber kit.

 

[Goobdog]

That looks really good, whats your offset ?

 

[Mark S.]

I honestly don't remember I'll see if I can check for you though, those are 245-45-17's... tractions still a bi***.

edit: the offset is either 35 or 45, don't remember which.

 

[90blacktsiawd]

I'm running 17x8's with 235/40/17 sized tires on them with a 40-41mm offset. In the front they stick out maybe a 1/4"-3/8". It's enough that if i hit a pothole or a big dip and a good speed i will rub the lip of the front fender on the tire. Of course it really doesn't help that i'm still using the original beat ass 1990 suspension. I should mention that with the stock rims with 225/45/16 sized tires and can get them to rub on the inside of the fender well and hit the bump stop pretty easily too. New springs and shocks are next on my list so we'll see how much of an improvement that makes with the problem. If that doesn't work i'll probably roll the fenders or get new smaller rims.

 

[LONEWOLF01]

i was on the wheel max forums and most dsm comes stagger with 17.5 up front and 17.8 in the rear.

maybe this will help.

http://www.wheelmax.com/package_list.asp

 

[jtmcinder]

i was on the wheel max forums and most dsm comes stagger with 17.5 up front and 17.8 in the rear.

Out of morbid curiosity: what are you talking about? No DSM has ever come with different wheels in the front vs back. Are you confusing the Conquest TSi for a DSM? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by 'stagger'?

- Jtoby

 

[90blacktsiawd]

I think he was referring to the wheel packages for that website he listed though i can't find what he's talking about. I have actually thought of this before. It's my front wheel that rubs sometimes. Of course my suspension is still all original and is pretty beat to begin with. But the rear could definately fit an 8.5". I dont see a benefit other than looks and not rubbing. Of course it always looks sweet when your rims just fill the whole well both width and depth.

 

[stirpicult]

why would you stagger wheel size? the wheels have nothing to do with rubbing besides what size tires you can run on the wheel. if you rub in the front with a 9 inch wheel and 255/40s, you will still rub in the front with an 8.5 inch wheel. and then, staggering tires sizes on an AWD car would be an absolutely terrible idea.

 

[90blacktsiawd]

So your telling me if i put a 7" wheel with the corrisponding tire size it wouldn't be father in the wheel well so it didn't stick out 1/2" past the fender well? I don't think it would rub any more. Besides i said for looks which would be the real idea. Having a wheel that perfeclty fills the wheel well looks nice. Not that im gonna waste the money to do this.

 

[stirpicult]

So your telling me if i put a 7" wheel with the corrisponding tire size it wouldn't be father in the wheel well so it didn't stick out 1/2" past the fender well? I don't think it would rub any more. Besides i said for looks which would be the real idea. Having a wheel that perfeclty fills the wheel well looks nice. Not that im gonna waste the money to do this.

i need to fix myself.
yes, running a 7" wheel with a correct size tire would fit better (225/45). but the only reason to be running an 8" wheel is to get a 235-245 series tire. for yours to fit now, all you would need is about a degree of negative camber. it will fit in VERY nicely. OR run 225/45's.
but back to correcting myself. guy wants 245 series tires, and likes Xbrand wheel. Xbrand wheel comes in 17x7.5 with a 45 mm offset and 17x8 with a 45mm offset. he knows that on a 1g 45mm offset on an 8" wheel will set the tire up to rub on the inside. but he reeeally wants that 245 series tire, and he knows that it really should only fit on a 8" wheel, so he'll compromise and get 2 of 7.5 and 2 of 8 and run 245/40s on both. the determining factor on whether it's going to rub here isn't wheel width. it's offset and TIRE width. a 245 tire is still around 9.5 inches wide. the wheel width can't change that. assuming a 245/40 tire, if the offset is 35, it will stick out a bit, 40 a bit less, 45 will be rubbing on the side. 7.5 or 8. doesn't matter, because the tire is the deciding width.
does that make sense?

final point....if running 17x7.5 wheels, run the right offset and the correct tire will fit. 17x8...run the right offset and 245 will fit. if 245 doesn't fit on that wheel, changing to a 17x7.5 won't cure it. changing to 225/45 WILL.
make more sense?

 

[Mark S.]

I have 245's all the way around with 17's, they fill the wheel wells perfectly, don't rub, and are all around awesome.

 

[90blacktsiawd]

I understand your point stirpicult but when i was referring to getting the smaller wheel up front i was thinking of putting the corresponding sized tire with it. I've got 235/40/17 all around on 17x8 with a 40-41mm offset (cant recall off hand). So i can't really see running a smaller tire on an 8" wide rim. i'm sure i could fit a 225.

 

[diambo4life]

Not exactly sure why everyone wants to fit the biggest wheel and tire under their car for a DD. Personally, I care more about weight. Those huge tires will weigh more. Most 17x8 wheels will weigh more than one of a smaller width too. I run 17x7 wheels with 225-45-17 and a +42 OFF. It looks perfect and traction is not a problem with them. Ideally though, I would love to have 16x8s.

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[90blacktsiawd]

It looks perfect and traction is not a problem with them.

This coming from the guy who just stated on the DSMLink forums that he spins all through first.

 

[diambo4life]

This coming from the guy who just stated on the DSMLink forums that he spins all through first.

...but I still get good 60's. Ok, I will retract. Traction is not a very big problem with the 17's, now with the stock wheels/tires (see timeslip), that's another issue.

 

[Maglin]

I'm running 17x7.5 with 235/45 Pilots and either a 42 or 43mm offset on ADR Formula 5's. I don't really have any good pics of the car as I'm not to big into showing it off to everyone. My avatar is about all I got. LoL. I got lucky as with the oem suspension i have maybe .5-1mm of clearance between my front tire and the spring pirch on the strut. Once I get my Koni/GC suspension in it's probably going to drop 1/2-3/4" and look a little better. Won't go lower than having the control arms parallel to the road as going any lower has very negitive effects on suspension geometry.

Anyways it looks good. don't have any tire sticking past the wheel wells.

 

[drivemusicnow]

I'm looking to stuff as wide of wheels and tires as I can under my 1g as I'm building the car for track days and eventually road racing.

I was wondering if someone who has a 17x8 inch wheel and coilovers (small springs) could measure the closest point between the tire and spring and wheel and spring. I have no problem rolling the fenders a bit to get some more room, I just want to know how wide I can go. I'd love to run a 255 hoosier on 17x8.5 wheels.

I just want to know the offset of the wheel, and the space between your suspension and tires.

I'm thinking that a 17x8.5 (or 9) wheel with a 30mm offset would work.