13g? 14b?

[Travisr138]

Okay, I've searched up first, and I'd like someone to help me out, tell me if what I found was true or not. My brother has a turbo civic, running a Mitsu 14B turbo set up right now. His turbo finally went and he's looking around for another, and told me he could find a 13G easier then the 14B, but the 13G is from an automatic. Anyways, from what I found searching, to swap the 14B out for a 13G, he'll need oil lines/coolant lines, and maybe even a different turbo manifold? I think this is all he'd need? Other than that it's direct in/out? Can anyone correct me and help him out? Thanks!

 

[Sp1kE]

I know the lines are different. but he probally made custom lines anyway.
Manifold should just bolt up. unless there is clearence issues on the civic.

 

[DSM4me44]

14b turbos are way easier to find then 13g. Nobody bothers rebuilding 13gs when a 14b is an upgrade for people with 13gs or t25s.

 

[tkelly27]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238167&highlight=13g+to+14b
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99576&highlight=13G+vs+14B

For the time money and effort, you might be better off with a 16g depending on your power goals.

 

[Travisr138]

So possibly needing new lines and that's it? He told me he was finding more 13G's with less mileage, so I guess he might go for one of those.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238167&highlight=13g+to+14b
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99576&highlight=13G+vs+14B

For the time money and effort, you might be better off with a 16g depending on your power goals.

Honda kids already have a bad name, haha, but I honestly did search and check to see what I could find, thanks for the links. I believe the 16G will be a direct in/out, which I mentioned to him, but he mentioned things like spool times, and I told him they probably wouldn't be too different.

 

[Talesin]

Hell, I have a couple spare 14bs on the shelf from DSMers upgrading to 16G/E316G/20Gs. Grabbed them for a song on the off chance my 16G blows, so I'll have something to run on until I can get it fixed.
Still have as of yet to see a 13g, ever. Maybe your brother thought he could get one cheaper than a 14b? The 13g apparently flows like crap.. low spool, but it peters out fast. The 16G (especially the E3-16G) doesn't affect spool times much, but can go to a good 6.5k or all the way to 7 on a 2L engine without outflowing its efficiency map. Sounds like your brother might be helping the bad Honda name along a little more.

 

[Travisr138]

Hell, I have a couple spare 14bs on the shelf from DSMers upgrading to 16G/E316G/20Gs. Grabbed them for a song on the off chance my 16G blows, so I'll have something to run on until I can get it fixed.
Still have as of yet to see a 13g, ever. Maybe your brother thought he could get one cheaper than a 14b? The 13g apparently flows like crap.. low spool, but it peters out fast. The 16G (especially the E3-16G) doesn't affect spool times much, but can go to a good 6.5k or all the way to 7 on a 2L engine without outflowing its efficiency map. Sounds like your brother might be helping the bad Honda name along a little more.

The car's got a homemade turbo kit, running mitsu set up, using the 14B. It was nice when it ran full potential, spooled fast and pulled strong, it's a light car. Anyways, I'm here trying to get some helpful info, don't care about the Honda tag.

Maybe it was he could find them cheaper, but I do believe he said he found more of them also.

 

[Cs4g63]

I say tell him to get a 16g. I have a buddy that was running a small 16g on his single cam honda and it spooled up quite quick. It would probably be more cost effective to get a new 16g now thats going to last for a long time than hoping you get 13g or a 14b that is still in good enough condition to last a while.

 

[EvolvingGST]

If you are going to the trouble to redo the lines just go find a 14b or get a 16g for a little more money. I mean you are getting a larger turbo for fair ammount of price.

The lines might be different but the manifold should be the same.

 

[tkelly27]

Wait, this just hit me. So he wants to spend more time and money to downgrade his turbo?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/14B-...tegoryZ33742QQihZ017QQitemZ270115722096QQrdZ1
get another 14b or get a $450 16g.