12 sec goal, help w/ mods.

[snoozin]

ok first off i have been searching threads forever and still have some questions. right now my upgrades are minimal. after tax returns (along with saved money) im getting a new fuel pump, 3" o2 elim turboback and fmic w/ piping. my main question is with turbos. ive been looking around for what setup to go with in the long run. im getting about 2500 from work in mid july and with that im getting closer to the goal.
turbo
safc
650's
logger/gauges/ect

all i really want to do is break 12 seconds, 12.99 slip, hey im happy. for the turbos im going with, dejon 50trin, sbr 20g, agp 60-1, or pte scm 50trim. (with interal gate) i havnt heard much on any of these (besides the 20g). my basic qustions are who has one of these and what times could i look at pulling on a decet basis, is 12's a possible goal w/ these (besides the obvious 60-1) keep in mind after i get this setup and hit 12 im going to leave it alone for a while then go internal afterwards. on the fuel pump, i cant decide between the 190 rewired or the 255 w/ fpr. from reading the 190 isnt given as much credit as its deserved but i was wonding on the limits w/ this.
thanks in advanced.
oh and on a side note, anyone that has a link to the turbo definitions ie. a/r, trim/ inducer and exducer a/r, ect definitions i would gladly accept it. i know the basics of the numbers but i want a technical artical that explains these in detail if possible. thanks.

 

[xcelr8n]

IMO the 190 rewired is underrated, it can flow enough for 12 second slips easily. but since youre looking at fairly large turbos Id just go with an afpr and a 255lph.
12s shouldnt be a problem with any of those turbos with proper tuning... youre only problem will be traction.
good luck

 

[SBstar]

Look through the quarter mile times and find the area you're looking for 12.? -12.9 and read through their mods. Sounds like the 50 trim is really popular now and I know that'll get you into the 12's for the turbo. A 3" exhaust is a good thing to have. 255lph fuel pump. Intercooler piping or better. (new intercooler) Bigger injectors 550cc should be enough (correct me if I'm wrong someone) There are other mods but thats all I can think of off the top of my head right now. Good drag radials up front will help with traction too and maybe a limited slip differential.

 

[97TSIAWD]

Hmm I have a small 16g and run solid low 12's, and in the heat at the shootout my car actually got faster. If you check my website with all my mods you'll see I have a 2.5" exhaust, turbo ported manifold/o2, suspension, fmic, injectors, and with leaded gas the car makes easy 12 second passes. A 50 is nice, but since most people are barely in the 12's it seems like it might be a little expensive, unless your very knowledgable about tuning that turbo which you might be. Anyways a smaller turbo could do the trick easily, just many give up on that and go bigger right away.

 

[laxdudeee]

those are hefty turbos for a high 12 pass, those turbos can do a lot more than high 12's. If you want to go walb 190, exhaust, FMIC, BIG16g/EVO, 660/550's, afc, 2g mas w/dejon piping you will exceed your goals. Not sure how much the FWD will factor into this but that is my take on it. Good luck

 

[snoozin]

thanks for all the advice. i looked through the 1/4 times but basically it was all awd, which plays a big enough factor in it i couldnt really find a whole lot of what i was looking for in fwd. i plan on getting some decent 17's and putting drag radials on 2 of my stock rims now and just using them for track days. ill probably go with the 190 and if i end up needing more then opting for the 255 then, i got shop space so i got no problem with a little extra work
im not extremly knoledgable w/ tuning yet, but i got plenty of time to read up on it before i get everything in, (and i have a butt load of links to read up on it), i dont plan on winging it by any means. i do want to keep going after i get the initial setup but i dont want any more bolt ons, i want to tune and then redo the tranny and sus after i get this setup going. with the info ill probably go with a 50 trim, it sounds like an all around decent turbo from everything ive heard. and im still looking for links for technical definitions of the a/r ration, and wheel size ect numbers if anyone has them, thanks again.

 

[SBstar]

like they said the 50 trim is definately big enough. The reason I mentioned it before was because of how popular its become as a good turbo. I'm looking for a 1G dsm and that'll probably be my first turbo upgrade. Hope it all turns out and post it up when you start hitting those 12's

 

[dave99gst]

Hmm I have a small 16g and run solid low 12's, .

AWD helps a tad

 

[97TSIAWD]

AWD helps a tad

Missed that the first time around, sorry guys. Although, if you look at the dsmtimes.org a few of the fastest 16g's are with fwd, a pair of slicks no doubt but without nitrous, I think the fastest is an 11.8 with no nitrous, which is very impressive to say that least.