why are these 2 things different on engine i ordered

[stud3737]

I have a 99 engine that I have taken out (got stolen guy blew up my engine...) and I have ordered a used one thats suppose to be a 99 but theres a few differences and I am wondering why these things are different. The 1st and 2nd photo are of the coolant lines to the turbo. It was the stock turbo on there. The 1st one is on the block that was previously in my car. Now should I move that to the other engine or just leave the one that is on there. The 3rd and 4th is what confuses me the most...why is the 3rd pic (one previously in car) an end like that (12 point?) vs in the 4th pic it has a 6 point. Does that mean the engines aren't the same year? Both blocks are suppose to be stock. Sorry about this super stupid noob question...

side note: the dumb company spray painted the block and there is that silver spray paint on part of the valves.... I personally am not a fan of that or is it ok and I am being way to picky??

 

[Greedy Pimp]

It looks like someone made that coolent line for the first picicture and the seckond picture is the stock one. Use what works for you best. Now the third picture of the crank sprocket bolt is not stock also, the one in the forth picture is. As far is the motor goes its eather a six bolt or seven bolt. I know some 7 bolts came with a cam angle sensor (early years) and later years came with a crank sensor. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[stud3737]

They are both a seven bolt. So why would the sprocket/pulley in pic #3 not be stock? IE different crank or why??? Yup they both have cam angle on the upper left side of valve cover and the crank angle sensor is on both blocks as well. I know that both are 7 bolt engines

 

[Greedy Pimp]

They are both a seven bolt. So why would the sprocket/pulley in pic #3 not be stock? IE different crank or why??? Yup they both have cam angle on the upper left side of valve cover and the crank angle sensor is on both blocks as well. I know that both are 7 bolt engines

I was talking about the crank sprocket bolt weren't you, in the third and forth picture when you said 12pt and 6pt.

 

[stud3737]

ok misunderstanding now I'm cconfused ...

 

[Greedy Pimp]

If that's what you were talking about, the crank bolt, the third picture is not oem and the forth picture is.

 

[stud3737]

ok I gotcha. since it is not oem, then what do you believe it may be? (like are those crank bolts able to just be swaped to a different bolt style or is it a different crank ect)

 

[Greedy Pimp]

The bolt could be arp in the 3rd pic, the bolt has the same thred on both of them just different heads. Crank is the same. Just leave the stock bolt on and don't worry about it.

 

[stud3737]

oooh ok interesting i didn't know they made different bolts for that. Do you think I should i move that bolt onto the new block i got?

 

[Greedy Pimp]

For the valves is there a little spackle or a thin or thick coat on them, is it on the hats or the stem?

Just leave the bolt alone in the new motor.

 

[stud3737]

I'd say about a medium coat and it is on the stems. I tried to get a picture if you want me to upload it.

 

[Greedy Pimp]

What you could do is get some brake cleaner and spray it in there and get a soft brush like a tooth brush and clean it up, and use a air compressor to blow everything out with the valves closed. Before you put the motor in you might want to put some oil in it and spin the oil pump till you get oil out of the lifters. But that means you would have to take off the timing cover and timing belt, it will probably be fine because they should have used assimbly lube but that's just me.

 

[stud3737]

ok I'll defiantly do that thanks a ton for the advice and your info. I will be putting arp head studs and a different head gasket on, any tips for me before I do that as well?

 

[Greedy Pimp]

What type of head gasket, and arp's. is this a stock re built engine, and what are your goals with it?

 

[stud3737]

I'm still trying to figure out exactly which head gasket. Maybe felpro gasket kit or topline from extremepsi. The topline will have a black friday deal so if I get to it in time maybe that one but idk for sure... I am using the regular arp head studs i guess EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts and my power goals... no more than 400 and suppose dont want to go over 350 on stock engine. I will be rebuilding the engine that got wrecked but I this car is my daily driver. I also got a new evo 3 big 16g as well that I will have to put on


And it is just a stock engine pulled from a wrecked car I was told. I will be checking bearings and stuff over just to see how everything is on the engine

 

[Greedy Pimp]

You could always get an oem composite hg, they hold lots of power, cheap, and if you got the money you could get l19 head studs for 230, there could be a special on black fri. Normal arp's work but I prefer something stronger and that can hold better. Do some searching on normal arp's and see what ppl have to say. 400 shouldn't be a problem on a healthy motor,good tune and the right hardware.

 

[stud3737]

ok sweet I'll have to do that! would the oem composite be better than felpo? Reason i also ask that is the felpro comes with other gaskets I'll need as well. But whatever one is better I'll get that one. (digging the price of the oem composite hg!) I already have the normal arp on the way being shipped... and money is tight right now :/ I have a friend who's great tuner but he has an evo 8 and the software so I'll see how different my blackbox ecu is vs an evo 8 ecu swap and if the program's are different ect

 

[Greedy Pimp]

Is the felpro composite? I think both are proven to work, oem and felpro, but I hear problems sometimes with felpro. You could also search on that subject.

 

[stud3737]

I've heard lots of different things but I will look some more on that. And yes i do believe the felpro is composite.

 

[navyissuedsm]

Yup. Felpro is composit

 

[BogusSVO]

There is a Felpro Composite (9627PT) and a FelPro MLS, Just like there is an OE composite, along with an OE MLS.

As far as the paint on the valve stems in the runner, just leave it it will burn off.

From the sloppy painting of the black block/balancer and OFH, it looks to be a "Krylon" rebuild

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I vote felpro permatorque mls

 

[stud3737]

There is a Felpro Composite (9627PT) and a FelPro MLS, Just like there is an OE composite, along with an OE MLS.

As far as the paint on the valve stems in the runner, just leave it it will burn off.

From the sloppy painting of the black block/balancer and OFH, it looks to be a "Krylon" rebuild

I will order the felpro composite

The paint wouldn't make them stick or anything?

dumb question but what's a "Krylon rebuild" exactly? The dumb company i ordered it from has terrible reviews :/ which i found out a few weeks after I ordered it.... do you think I got screwed or something??

 

[BogusSVO]

A Krylon rebuild is basicly where they knock off some of the heavy grime and paint the engine with a can of krylon spray paint.

No the paint will not cause the valves to stick, it will burn off the exhaust valves from heat, and wash off the intakes from gas.

 

[bryanwheat]

I vote felpro permatorque mls

He would need to take the bottom end apart and have the block decked for this gasket. The composite will not require this, and will hold good power.