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Who's got a .50 trim?!?!?!

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mycarhatesme

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Nov 8, 2005
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Hi I just bought a bunch of stuff and I was wondering about how people with similar setups are doing power wise and at the track. I've got a .50 trim ball bearing garret turbo, 3 inch dejon intake, 3 inch turbo back, tubular header, greddy fmic, type s bov, 750cc injectors, 255 fp, dsm link, and i'm waiting on a clutch. I think that's all but i may have forgotten some, if you reccomend anything else let me know it would be very helpful. I have been searching tryint to find some 1/4 times or just some numbers ofwhat people are putting down. I don't know what boost ill be running i was hoping you all could help with that also, i have no internals. Thanks
 
Well.

Id recommend a SS braided clutch line to elimite the Accumulator.
a Wide Band 02 setup. or the sensor that hooks to link
7es plugs gapped at .028
wires for the plugs.
perhaps Slim Fans if your turbo is too big to fit.

Are you going Internal or External Gated?
if you only have a Turbo Back, perhaps an 3 inch O2 housing.

Guages! Guages!
Header Wrap for your Exhaust manifold, or new paint for oyur hood ;)
are you going to recirculate your BOV

mabye a flywheel for that clutch.
Boost Controller?
3 inch KN filter for that dejon Pipe, Mine didnt come with a filter 40$ at dsmparts.

all the necessary Gaskets and Bolts
you will most likley Need New bolts to hold the turbo to the manifold since the flange is a LOT thinner on a tubular I orderd OEM o2 housing bolts for mine.

do you have the Oil Lines?
and a Digital camera to have pics of your badazz build to show us all?
 
Thanks a lot, I have the plus and wires, what does the o2 housing do for me? Ihave the filter, i have all lines and gaskets, and a boost controller and i need two more gauges. I've been thinkin about all that other stuff. Ill try to get some pictures. Any idea what psi i'll be able to run?
 
o2 housing is your last restriction.

Tube manifold big flow, 3 inch exhaust big flow
big turbo, good flow.

then your stock 02 housing. you can either port it out, or just pickup an after market.
 
Why a 50 trim? Isent that kinda small? Or is that just right for these engines?

DSMLink.... PC tuning software?
 
m0nny said:
Why a 50 trim? Isent that kinda small? Or is that just right for these engines?

DSMLink.... PC tuning software?

Why are you here as a focus owner saying "why a 50 trim"? Evidently, you have no clue.

I have a friend that put down 427 awhp with a similar setup with a 50 trim. I agree, afpr and lots of tuning and it will be a beast. I am under the assumtion that you already have an aftermarket boost gauge and boost controller, right? Maybe a set of cams to compliment it but not nescesarry. You should be able to run 20-22 psi without issues on pump gas, stock hg, and a good tune. Replace the hg with a mitsu 4 layer or cometic and you should be able to tune for 25 psi on pump without issues.
 
m0nny said:
Why a 50 trim? Isent that kinda small? Or is that just right for these engines?

DSMLink.... PC tuning software?

Do you know what a 50trim is? .50 doesnt mean its half an inch big
dsmlink is SO MUCH MORE than pc tuning software.
 

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The guys here in Fargo at straight line specialties Have all put over 450 w/hp on the simler set up but a couple of them had some internals i think. The owner of sls p down 530 hp and only 390 some torque and his partner put down 480 hp and 460 torque cheak out there web sight they got numbers some were. Its straightlinespecialties.com
 
My stock Block can handle 400+ awhp? haha my setup is going to be making that much with a good tune? I was going conservative with this setup haha i really thought it would be a stretch to hit like 300 awhp before internals. thanks for your help guys.
 
mycarhatesme said:
My stock Block can handle 400+ awhp? haha my setup is going to be making that much with a good tune? I was going conservative with this setup haha i really thought it would be a stretch to hit like 300 awhp before internals. thanks for your help guys.

Stock internals can support 400 awhp as long as you have a good tune. And it can be done reliably. 300 is conservative on stock internals.
 
You don't need an AFPR. You should get at least a boost gauge and then get at least 110 octane and turn the boost up to 28psi. Make sure your tuning is right on. I once ran the Green (50 trim variation) at 28psi and it did 11.3@122. Good luck with your tuning and driving.
 
Hi thanks guys, i wasalso wondering about methanol kits. I've heard a little about them, mostly all good things. Anyone out there that can really tell me what they're all about and if it's worth the money. They dont seem super expensive compared to all the other stuff we buy.
 
v2ner said:
You don't need an AFPR.

I wouldn't go around telling people that. You may have done alright without it, but he might not. I would recommend one. I personally wouldn't put in my 255 until I had my AFPR :thumb:
 
v2ner said:
You don't need an AFPR. You should get at least a boost gauge and then get at least 110 octane and turn the boost up to 28psi. Make sure your tuning is right on. I once ran the Green (50 trim variation) at 28psi and it did 11.3@122. Good luck with your tuning and driving.

That is not the kind of advice you should be giving out. You will need an AFPR. The 255 will overun the stock regulator. Also, 28 psi wont hold up very long on stock head bolts and the stock head gasket.
 
Yes, you have successfully repeated what RotaryRyan said. However, you are right about the headstuds which I forgot to mention, thanks. I still stand behind what I said about the AFPR. Many have run 10s and 9s without an aftermarket one for years. This area is completely up to the owner. In most cases, the HG is good for 28psi. I'm running MML HG in two of my DSMs right now. The other one is doin 27psi with a stock one and it's been running like that for over a year and a half now. BTW, nice lookin car, Stratus :thumb:
 
2tsi_auto said:
The guys here in Fargo at straight line specialties Have all put over 450 w/hp on the simler set up but a couple of them had some internals i think. The owner of sls p down 530 hp and only 390 some torque and his partner put down 480 hp and 460 torque cheak out there web sight they got numbers some were. Its straightlinespecialties.com


I wouldnt really consider those setups similar, the guy that did 530whp was on a scm 61, had a magnus, cams, and a much better top end.

The other guy that put down 480 was on a gt40, why dont you actually check the cars out before you say they are similar. 50 trim vs a scm 61 is a big difference, dont give false hope.
 
v2ner said:
Yes, you have successfully repeated what RotaryRyan said. However, you are right about the headstuds which I forgot to mention, thanks. I still stand behind what I said about the AFPR. Many have run 10s and 9s without an aftermarket one for years. This area is completely up to the owner.

It isn't a matter of the stock regulator not being up to he task, as it is, however for daily driving or drivability in general it WILL be over run and make it hard to tune at idle and in low throttle position. So yes while many have run very fast on it they didn't have the greatest drivabilty.
 
Yea, I guess your somewhat right but I have no driveability issues. Only on the T70 but that's a different story.
 
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