Which one is best? [EGT Gauge]

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I've looked into the forums and didn't get much info.I want to buy an egt kit but don't know which one to get.Does it really matter?Is digital better than needle?I would like to get it before I start upgrading the fmic.I'd like to do it all at once.please help.

 

[Pure92TSi]

I don't know about which guage is better but I would recommend you get the TRE egt probe. It's supposed to be the fastest reacting and most accurate.

EGT Probe

 

[dalatinromeo]

I had an apexi egt gauge on my last car. It worked great The only problem that you might not like is it reads in celsius.

Hope this helps stay boostin

 

[Mitsuturbo]

I have the Apex'i EL (version 1, standalone gauge) EGT in my car with the original probe, and it works great. Much better than my friends Greddy gauge (until he put a TRE probe in it, now his is awesome) However, the Apex'i EGT gauge with peak/warning/playback costs quite a bit more than the Greddy. I personally REALLY want the Blitz DC series EGT, but already have the Apex'i. It works just as well as the Apex'i from what i have seen.

Oh, also.. i have seen aftermath of the original greddy probe breaking off and entering the turbine housing. TWICE! It's NOT pretty!

The greddy works fine. The autometer is useless, as it only goes to 1600*f. If you're pulling timing and running high boost, you may see over 1600 at times.. and knowing HOW FAR over 1600 is important.

My order of preference should be clear now, but just in case it's not, i'll sum it up here:
1) Apex'i
2) Blitz
3) Greddy
useless) Crap-o-meter (autometer)

 

[project_tsi]

I don't know about which guage is better but I would recommend you get the TRE egt probe. It's supposed to be the fastest reacting and most accurate.

EGT Probe

You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[rated x]

I decided on going with the tre egt probe,but I really can't decide what gauge to go with it.Some only go up to 1600* .Is 2000* good or should I go with a digital ?I've been searching but haven't had any luck.

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[rowlex]

It might be best to get a cheaper EGT setup. Then put the rest of the money towards a wideband o2 sensor. The EGT really isnt useful for anything other then knowing when to back off cuz things are getting to hot. (mainly on long pulls, or cruising 85+ for long distances).

The wideband should also be able to tell you when things are getting too hot (IE. when you a/f ratio is too high). The combination of the two should work real well.

EDIT. You really shouldn't be passing 1600* F. From what I have read that's when things start melting. I buried my gauge to 1650-1700 on accident once. (It read past the 1600* mark)

 

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Well from all the posts I've read already.I defenantly don't want to go with the autometer egt gauge.From what I've read,It's not accurate.I wonder if it would be any more accurate since I'm planing on getting the tre egt probe.

 

[rowlex]

Well from all the posts I've read already.I defenantly don't want to go with the autometer egt gauge.From what I've read,It's not accurate.I wonder if it would be any more accurate since I'm planing on getting the tre egt probe.

Was there any real time testing of this theory? Unless someone was running both gauges/probes at the same time and noted a difference I think it would be hard to prove.

I run the autometer, granted I have never seen any one else(s) supposedly better probe in action but the autometer one seems to move pretty quickly. I can't say anything for accuracy but since your not tuning off of it I cant say a need for accuracy exists as long as it's in the ballpark you would know when to back off the throttle.

I think a good combination would be a cheap EGT and a wideband, with the wideband you will know when things are getting to hot the further away optimal o2 readings. Lean making it hotter.

 

[Dream On]

I plan on getting an Autometer Phantom EGT. They sell them without the probe, so you could get one of those then get the probe mentioned earlier.

 

[Mitsuturbo]

While i agree that 1600F is HOT, (it's about as far as "i" would want to go) it sure would be nice to have a 1200C gauge like i happen to have, just in case something is up. Imagine.. you look over and see a 1600f gauge pegged.. that 1200c gauge would only be at like 900... plenty of margin for error there. It'd be real nice to know exactly how hot things really got.

Why do you think all the nice (expensive too) gauges all read up well over 1600?

 

[Pure92TSi]

Because if they put more numbers on the face then they can charge more.


P.S. That's a joke just so you guys don't think i'm serious.

 

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Does anyone sell digital read out egt gauges that'll fit in a triple gauge pod?

 

[rowlex]

Does anyone sell digital read out egt gauges that'll fit in a triple gauge pod?

Please re-read and consider what I mentioned about a cheap EGT and a wideband. Your going to spend a lot of money on a digital EGT which is somewhat useless, especially as far as tuning goes.

The wideband will indirectly tell you if your running too hot (as long as you get the one with a read-out). While combining that with a cheap auto-meter EGT you will be golden, AND you will be able to really fine-tune your car with the wideband. If the wideband reads excessively lean--then you can infer your probably running quite hot EGT's. The autometer EGT will confirm it.

to answer your question tho:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=2942

 

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What kind of wideband kit would be best?Any suggestions?I should be getting my FMIC this week and would like to get all the parts before putting it in.TIA.

 

[rowlex]

What kind of wideband kit would be best?Any suggestions?I should be getting my FMIC this week and would like to get all the parts before putting it in.TIA.

any one with a digital gauge should do the job.

 

[Black94DSM]

I wouldnt get a digital gauge unless your good at reading numbers that change at a rapid rate. Just think about how many things you need to look at while going through a run(rpm, oil press, water temp, boost) if you have them. Then add a digital gauge in there. Its easier to look at a needle sweeping in a fraction of a second than a digital read out.

With that said i got the Autometer Phantom EGT with a TRE Probe <---that thing is FAST!!

 

[rowlex]

I wouldnt get a digital gauge unless your good at reading numbers that change at a rapid rate. Just think about how many things you need to look at while going through a run(rpm, oil press, water temp, boost) if

Oil pressure? Water temp? Are you joking (assuming we are talking about WOT gauge watching)?

A digital gauge would be best, it shouldn't fluctuate much if you get a good tune. I think it might be harder to tune it off a needle gauge.

 

[Black94DSM]

Oil pressure? Water temp? Are you joking (assuming we are talking about WOT gauge watching)?

Ok water temp is one that dont need to be watched at WOT, i got a little out of hand but i DO watch oil pressure(Wouldnt want to lose that and keep going! .) / boost / rpm / egt / ROAD.

Eh i guess to each his own. I was just mearly stating that its hard to watch that many gauges and the road and then try to watch a digital gauge.

 

[rowlex]

Ok water temp is one that dont need to be watched at WOT, i got a little out of hand but i DO watch oil pressure(Wouldnt want to lose that and keep going! .) / boost / rpm / egt / ROAD.

Eh i guess to each his own. I was just mearly stating that its hard to watch that many gauges and the road and then try to watch a digital gauge.

All I watch is boost and road and I keep an eye on my knock light. If your car looses oil pressure you have bigger problems anyway. If you have a good tune you shouldn't need to watch your EGT.

 

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What types of wideband kits would you guys recommend?I want to try buying one soon since I know I'm going to have to tune my car with all the mods I'm doing.

 

[milz]

i have a aem computer in the car! can i tie in the wideband to the aem

 

[Shane2GSX]

I'm going to go with the PLX-250 or 300 WB. Cheap, proven, accurate and is compatable with ECU+ and DSMLink.

 

[MCDGexx]

how are autometer boost guages? Or should I go w/ like apex'i or greddy?

 

[Shane2GSX]

Personally, I'm going with Autometer. I had one on my last car and it worked wonderfully.