Upgrade path for evo3 setup.

[AiR]

Hey guys been a long time since Ive posted. Been searching alot and cant really find any definite answers for my situation.

Here is my current Mods.

EVO3 16g @ 13 PSI
3" Downpipe back exhaust
INjen Intake with K&N
Walbro 190'
HKS SSQV
Hallman MBC
Boost Gauge

Basically I want to open this thing up a bit more but I know its going to cost some money getting my fuel under control and monitoring what is happening.

I need to get something to control fuel and something to log. I know there is SAFC's Widebands, ECMLink, EVo scan, DSM link etc. but honestly I dont know what I need to make these work, If I only need one that does all the jobs of tuning and logging or what the deal is. There is alot of information.

So Im getting a 2.5 VRSF FMIC, Bigger injectors, tuning, and logging. My question to you is. What injectors should I get if I plan to run 15-20 PSI? What is the best bang for your buck logging software? What do I need in order to run that software (ecm mods?), and What do I need to log? (wideband etc?) Thanks for the time If you have any questions ask away.

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

You'll need a wideband, ecmlink, and injectors. I wouldn't go any lower then 850cc injectors personally because sooner or later you're gonna want more.

ECMlink and DSMlink is the same thing just so you know. It has a datalogger and seeing that you have a 95 you probably already have an EPROM ecu which you need to run DSMlink.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Get ecmlink v3 dsm link is the earlier version of ecmlink. So they are essentially the same. You need a wideband in addition to ecmlink, which in my opinion is the best tuning for our cars it's simple and effective and there are people running 8's with it

 

[AiR]

Does a wide-band o2 replace a current o2 on the car or do I need to add an additional bung? Also can I get suggestions on which injectors, wideband and best place to buy ecmlink and the injectors and wideband. Thanks.

 

[lewishamilton]

Does a wide-band o2 replace a current o2 on the car or do I need to add an additional bung? Also can I get suggestions on which injectors, wideband and best place to buy ecmlink and the injectors and wideband. Thanks.

Take a look at this for options depending on your setup


http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-electrical-wiring/421002-innovate-lc-1-installation-options.html


You can watch the classifieds for good deals on Link, and injectors. And you were already recommended 850cc injectors to give you some headroom. What are your power goals besides "open it up a little bit?"

And the most widely recommended wideband on this site is the Innovate from my reading.

Hope this helps.

 

[AiR]

Sorry I meant brand wise, and Im not trying to make a ton of power just want a quick good running car Im happy with the speed now but i know this turbo is capable of alot more. So dont really have any goals just want to be more in control of whats going on and utilize the turbo i have a bit more.

 

[Tooltrt87]

Sorry I meant brand wise, and Im not trying to make a ton of power just want a quick good running car Im happy with the speed now but i know this turbo is capable of alot more. So dont really have any goals just want to be more in control of whats going on and utilize the turbo i have a bit more.

The guys above have given you sound advice. Ecmlink and a wideband is key to as you said you wanted. "more in control of whats going on and utilize the turbo a bit more."
To cheaply mod your car for quick gains grab an safc look up how to wire it in and still get a wideband. You should data log the car when you start uping turbos and boost and fuel ect.. but if you want the control you are requesting then link is your answer.

 

[AiR]

Yup I plan on following that advice, what I was asking is brands for Injectors.

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

Fuel Injector Clinic

 

[dexterholland04]

Race Components Inc (RCI)!

 

[Insane20]

Yup I plan on following that advice, what I was asking is brands for Injectors.

So do you mean your going with the safc? If that's the case you cant really go higher then 650cc injectors. If you search in the classified section you might be able to score a set of evo 560cc injectors that would work nice with your 190lph pump and safc. With that set up you could run 18-20 psi after you get a logger and wideband of course.

 

[AiR]

no gonna go with ecm link, a wideband and looking up injectors now, FIC seems to be widely used, alot of options with them tho

 

[Insane20]

Oh my bad, must have misread. Good choice btw.

 

[renovatdkitchen]

I went with FIC 950cc's for the e16g car and they are perfect.

You will also want to do something about the wastegate, as depending on its condition, it wont want to hold a decent amount up to redline.

My stock wastegate, which is near new, shimmed a little holds 25psi to redline (just tried it out for the first time). Better bet would be to go with a Holset wastegate if you want to stay with a cheaper internal one.

Also, pick up DSM link. Its by far the best bang for the buck and makes diagnosing problems a sinch.

Personally, I would go with a 255 rewired with an AFPR instead of the 190, but thats me.

The e16g is a completely different monster once you get above 20 psi.

 

[AiR]

Ok so here is my purchase plan, please let me know if you guys see anything wrong with adding these items to my setup. I will be putting the order in the next day or two.

FIC 850cc Mitsubishi DSM Injector Set (Low-Z) IS125-0850

https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=20616&cat=747&page=1&keep_https=yes

https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=19037&cat=0&page=1

Gonna go make sure my ECU is EPROM today also. If it is not what are my options?
EDIT: ECU is marked E so should be good to go.

Im not planning on maxing this thing out I just want a reliable quick car is why I chose the 850's They are 40 bucks cheaper. However If you think its worth it to just go with the 950's let me know if you think I will need them running 15-20 PSI. thanks.

http://www.vr-speed.com/performance...bishi-dsm-injector-set-low-z-is125-0950.html?

Can someone chime in on this before I pull the trigger please?

 

[Tooltrt87]

Your plans look good! The 850cc injectors will be plentiful for what it seams you goal is.
If your ecu is eprom, Id just send it to Tom Dorris at ecmtuning and have them install the chip there. They will send you a ready to plug in product. Also if you do decide that your fuel pump is insufficient for your goals and you switch to a 255, remember that the 255 will over run your stock regulator and you should buy an AFPR. I may being straying the course a bit here but have you considered cams? Cams will make a tremendous change in the acceleration of your car. Just my .02 cents but is deff worth the effort!