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Turbonetics T3 manifold

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gSx_r1der

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Using this manifold with any other sized wastegate besides the tial 38, I'm interested in finding out if this manifold wastegate port can be bored out to fit the tial 44mm wastegate??
 
The bolt pattern is completly different. One option is to make or get a adapter for a tial38 to the 44 flange. Only problem with that setup might be clearance issues.
 
awdrst said:
The bolt pattern is completly different. One option is to make or get a adapter for a tial38 to the 44 flange. Only problem with that setup might be clearance issues.


Thats also what I was thinking but if you bore it out you could always run a pipe somewhere to relocate the wastegate, or what about buying a garrett turbo with the internally gated turbine housing and boring the hole out to match the 44mm wastgate and running the wastgate off the turbine housing like the fp style turbos.
 
Yeah but the upside to the turbonetics is that it is cast and will last longer without cracking than a tubular manifold. I would suggest alot of porting with the turbonetics one as it needs it pretty bad to flow decent.
 
Boosted98gsx said:
the turbonetics isn't that great of a design anyway. If you're looking for a T3 manifold that can use a 44mm TiAl, then get one from DNP. It will flow better anyway.


might not be a great design but its very similar in design to the stock 2g, and its cast so I wouldnt have any problems with my car being down a year down the road cause I have to wait and send my dnp manifold to them in the mail, here is the turbine side I was thinking of to bore it out to accomodate a 44mm wastegate. Opinions??


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awdrst said:
Yeah but the upside to the turbonetics is that it is cast and will last longer without cracking than a tubular manifold. I would suggest alot of porting with the turbonetics one as it needs it pretty bad to flow decent.

i have not heard of too many instances of the dnp manifolds cracking...mostly sfp and ebay crap...i personally run a dnp with no problems so far...just make sure your dp has a flex part to it...and if you are really scared then just brace your turbo...
 
gSx_r1der said:
what about buying a garrett turbo with the internally gated turbine housing and boring the hole out to match the 44mm wastgate and running the wastgate off the turbine housing like the fp style turbos.


I have a garrett turbo setup sitting in my room right now that is set up that way. I got a great deal on a dnp t3 manifold but it didn't have the wastegate option so i got a 5 bolt housing and flange. The worst part about going that route is having to drill out the hole in the flange as it's a pita and grinding the exhaust housing so it will match the flange. I'm not sure if you can make the hole equal the 44mm as it is very tight on the flange that i have and i'm using a tial 38 on there. I'll get some pics if i can tonight to better show what i'm talking about.


Also i just wanted to say that i've got a dnp manifold sitting in my room with a crack in it. Its at the number 2 runner weld where the head flange meets the pipe. I'm not bad mouthing dnp or anything just wanted to show that it does happen. The guy i got it off of used it on a daily driver and put about 8000 miles on it. I just need to find the time to weld it back up. But you are right about bracing it and bracing the turbo i'm going to do that when i install it.
 
can a steel peice and flange be welded to the collector of the turbonetics manifold like people do to the stock manmifold when they put the tial 38mm on there???


Edit: def get those pics up, and anyone know if ams sells that adaptor plate they use for their gt-35r kit??
 
Ams sells the plate. Your talking about the t3 to mitsu manifold adapter right? I think hahn also sells them. From what i read they also require alot of porting to clean them up. As far as welding the flange onto the manifold it can be done just make sure that the welder you choose is capable of welding the steel the the cast piece. If its done wrong it will crack. I'm assuming you already have the tial 44 and that is why you are trying to use it right? If not what's wrong with using a 38? It will make your install easier.
 
I already have the 44mm, and I was going to sell it and get a 38 but I didnt know the limitations of the 38mm. Any input on that??
 
From first hand experience i run it with my 20g setup now. I've run it as low as 10psi. Since then i've swapped out springs and have run it up to 28psi. I never had any problems with creep. Also i plan on putting it on my 60-1 when i switch.
 
so what would be the difference between me running a 44mm and a 38mm?? would the 38mm start to creep at a certain horsepower or boost level?? I plan on going bigger later(turbo,2.4) so thats why I didnt want to sell the 44mm but if the 38mm is good to 500hp then what the hell do I need the 44mm for?
 
I have a Turbonetics T3 manifold and it is bored out with an adapter plate to fit my 40mm TiAL wastegate. The guy who ran it before me that I bought it from had no problems whatsoever with it, however I have not run it yet. A 40mm TiAL is possible though.

Anson
 
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