Traction

[schwag9AWD]

I was having a discussion w/ my friend about good cars for winter, and somehow I mentioned that my Talon would spin all four tires easily in the rain or the snow. He insisted that only one wheel per front and rear would be able to spin because there are no locking hubs as in a four-wheel drive vehicle. I don't have the car anymore so I can't show him first hand

I know that all 4 spin at the same time, I just don't know of a technical explanation. I know that the front and center diffs are open and the rear is limited slip, but what would a technical explanation of how all 4 spin at the same time be?, and also are >all< all-wheel-drive car like dsm's in this way??

 

[kyledykstra]

Your friend probably has experience with GM minivans. In a normal situation, one front, and one rear tire spins from a stop.

 

[schwag9AWD]

GM minivans???
So is there any situation where all 4 spin when the car is not moving? I just remember I would rev it just a little, let the clutch out, the tires would just spin, and the car wouldn't move.

 

[kyledykstra]

GM minivans???
So is there any situation where all 4 spin when the car is not moving? I just remember I would rev it just a little, let the clutch out, the tires would just spin, and the car wouldn't move.

My Talon will, if it's even remotely wet or snowing out, I can get all 4 to spin.

go go action Tires Plus tires.

 

[myblack98gst]

with all AWD dsm's I know of ... the rear end is LSD and the front is open diff.


so it would be spinning 3 tires..

 

[2gGSX]

with all AWD dsm's I know of ... the rear end is LSD and the front is open diff.


so it would be spinning 3 tires..

Exactly.
Unless your AWD has a front LSD as well, you won't be spinning 4.