Too Many Turbos for Too Much $$$$

[DBR01]

OK so I'm in the market to upgrade my turbo and after 2 weeks of researching I've found out that:

• T28 Hybrid turbos hit hard and quick
• FP3065 Turbos are very expensive and are slow spooling but high end
• T3/T4 Turbos are very customizable

So now I need some help with specifics. I've been looking for a turbo capable of flowing 44 lbs or 500 hp. I understand that these will be pricey but I'm not willing to spend more on a turbo than I did on the engine rebuild. The turbo that was good for me was the FP3065 but I'm not paying 2K+ for it. I'm looking more for around $600-$1200. I know it seems silly trying to get 500hp with a turbo under $1200 but I know it's possible. I also like hard hitting turbos. Any help would be appreciated. Thx

 

[paul s]

Get to4e 50 trim, flows around 48lb, I did 119mph on 23psi and pump on that turbo, but you will need a lot of supporting mods. Cost around 900$.

 

[DBR01]

Get to4e 50 trim, flows around 48lb, I did 119mph on 23psi and pump on that turbo, but you will need a lot of supporting mods. Cost around 900$.

$900 for the turbo and the accessories?? If so that's not bad at all!
How is the engagement? Slow and Steady or Fast and Hard?

 

[paul s]

Visit one of the sponsors and it find out what you get for 900$, usually 900 gets you oil feed line/return line and turbo..

 

[red4G63T]

T28 killer, 36lb/min, spools fast, and have been run into the 11s. $599(direct bolt in for 2G)

Or get a 18G, $429 similar flows to a 20G, and spools faster.

 

[CanadianTSi]

I also say you should get one of the different 50 trims out there. Look around at the different vendors and pick one

 

[heavyD]

T28 killer, 36lb/min, spools fast, and have been run into the 11s. $599(direct bolt in for 2G)

Or get a 18G, $429 similar flows to a 20G, and spools faster.

Where are all these T28 cars running low 11's?

 

[billdo_83]

Where are all these T28 cars running low 11's?

Not all T-28 cars run low 11s.

I cant think of any of the T-28 cars right now online running low 11s but its been done.

Just like 16g powered cars running low 11sish

But those turbos wont give him the HP that he wants.

You can get a PTE turbo for a shade under a grand or else you can always pick one up on the trader and pray for a good one.
Anything above 50trim should be good enough for your needs.

You wanted 500 crank horsepower right? Not whp.

 

[heavyD]

I cant think of any of the T-28 cars right now online running low 11s but its been done.

That's what I mean. FP says they did it with one of theirs but I've never seen proof of anyone making those numbers. It has been well doccumented that guys have done low 11's with 16G's but it seems like when it comes to the T28 people know it's been done but don't/haven't seen it with their own eyes.

I have a ported FP28 and installed it in my 2G Eclipse and now its on my 1G Talon. While the midrange punch is great on the street I don't believe it has the top end to make low 11 second passes.

 

[DSM_Aruba]

My best choices up to now: FP3052 ($1299) if you can afford it (you'll need 660cc injectors). The BR20G ($950) spools very fast (550cc injectors needed). Other choices SBR GT turbos, PTE GT turbos (they can custom make GT30 for $1250 which fits on the 2G exhaust manifold)

 

[AL92]

I had an agp rs49 and it was pretty awesome.Sold it and getting likey a bigger one this time around maybe RS60 or even RS65 if go stroker engine.
AGP has the RS49T for like 699 and you need the internal gate which worked fine in my 1g.The t series are turbonetics the RS49 without T are garette.Personmally I would pay more for garrett version.

A 50 trim should give you what you want,pretty quick spool and work ok with minor support mods..650 are ok,better fuel pump of course and a reasonable front mount and better clutch and you should be good to go.Also the think is loud when it spooled up!!
I liked that a lot!

 

[DsMWookie]

PTE's have nice turbo's for a good price. GT35R is a sweet turbo.

I personally am running a bullseye to4 h3 but I am not recommending it because I wanna make sure it stays reliable.

 

[DBR01]

I appreciate all the feedback guys!! I've learned more in 2 days from this thread than two weeks of going out to vendor sites. Thx!!! From what you guys are telling me, I'll probly get a 50 or 60 trim. More than likely a Garrett. I already have a beefy lower end and just put on an Apex'i FMIC and Greddy BOV and piping. I had to take my Apex'i twin chamber off until my EMS unit comes in. Supposedly another 2 weeks or so. Like I said I greatly appreciate all the feedback, keep it up!!

 

[red4G63T]

Where are all these T28 cars running low 11's?

Forced Performance


Quoted off thier website.

Our goal with the FP-Big28 was similar to its FP-T28/28 predecessor… to create a fast spooling, bolt on turbo that got up and went. We wanted to give the FP-Big28 a little more "umph" than the T-28, but when we strapped one on a 2G AWD and took it to the track, the results knocked us on our ass. At 21psi, the FP-Big28 pulled our full weight 99 GSX to an [email protected].

Its nothing new, theres 14B powered DSM's(bigger turbos aren't always better) in the 11s.

Nitrious also helps, would actually be a preety good combo with a T28.

Since when does top end help with the 1/4 ? top end is for highway racing, traction and 60ft's acheive low e.t.'s.

 

[ITSME4G63]

Forced Performance


At 21psi, the FP-Big28 pulled our full weight 99 GSX to an [email protected].

sounds a little too good to be true for a t28

 

[ITSME4G63]

btw , my friend has been plannning to get rid of his br20g setup, I can get ya it for 1000$ , includes the burschur racing 20g clipped and ported, tial 44mm wastegate and a special o2 hosuing flanged for that wastegate to sit on along with dumptube.

 

[DBR01]

What do you guys think about the RS60T? It's got some pretty impressive numbers and with all accessories it's still under $1000. Here is the listing:
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RS60
Want to take the next step? The RS60 is for those interested in some serious timeslips, and still have a pretty wicked "street" car. We have already been able to get 534 whp and 445ft/lbs to the ground on one of our cars. All that power and the ability to reach 30psi by 4000rpm, this hybrid is a serious contender.

-60 lb/min compressor
-60-1 compressor wheel
-76 trim T31 (stage 3) turbine wheel
-T04E (3" inlet, 2" outlet) polished compressor housing.
-Setup for manifold mounted or O2 mounted external wastegate
(internal wastegate optional)

We recommend a -4 oil feed line directly from the oil filter housing.
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It seems pretty impressive. Any thoughts???

 

[red4G63T]

sounds a little too good to be true for a t28

Do a check for SR20T's w/ T28 hitting low 12s, if a 240sx can do it, why can't a DSM ?

I guess the Project Goodwill 14B powered DSM that ran 11s is too good to be true as well ?

If a 14B can do it, im preety damn sure a t28 will.

 

[Analine]

From talking with AGP, all of the numbers they put down on the RS60t were with stroker motors. I just got my motor finished and ordered my RS60T. With internal wastegat and the oil lines mine came out to right around 935. I still have to get my injectors and the new chip for the eprom then I can start tuning. I will post some updates on my setup in about two weeks whenever I get everything installed and get it running right.

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

Your plans are 500hp but you dont wanna spend no more than 1200 bucks?

You dont simply put a turbo on and put down 500hp. You are gonna need a lot more than that and lots of money.

 

[Syndicate13]

Do a check for SR20T's w/ T28 hitting low 12s, if a 240sx can do it, why can't a DSM ?

I guess the Project Goodwill 14B powered DSM that ran 11s is too good to be true as well ?

If a 14B can do it, im preety damn sure a t28 will.

Goodwill is a stripped shell of a former car. Do not use it to justify that a 14b can propel any car into the 11's. Most people don't want to sacrifice their interior and amenities to go faster. I know I don't, I'll just make more power.

 

[heavyD]

Do a check for SR20T's w/ T28 hitting low 12s, if a 240sx can do it, why can't a DSM ?

I guess the Project Goodwill 14B powered DSM that ran 11s is too good to be true as well ?

If a 14B can do it, im preety damn sure a t28 will.

The SR20 Blacktop has a Garrett ballbearing T28 that is different than the DSM T28. Different car, different turbo. Plus I was skeptical about low 11's that DSM'er are supposedly putting down with the T28's not low 12's.

 

[red4G63T]

The SR20 Blacktop has a Garrett ballbearing T28 that is different than the DSM T28. Different car, different turbo. Plus I was skeptical about low 11's that DSM'er are supposedly putting down with the T28's not low 12's.

Exactly what would that difference be ? Im preety sure a Big T28 killer, will easily outflow a BB SR20 T28.

Besides if those 240sx's were AWD, those low 12 e.t's would easily be 11s.

Actually someone needs to do more homework, SR20 black tops weren't offered with the T28, they had T25's.

Black Top

* 1994-1998
* S13 180SX
* 202 hp @ 6000 rpm
* 203 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
* Garrett T25, 0.64A/R Exhaust
* 0.80A/R Compressor
* High-port head
* 370cc/min injectors
* Black valve cover, flat on top
* Better pistons, water pump, oil pickup than the Redtop

http://www.nissantech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12&pid=45&st=0&#entry45

 

[heavyD]

Exactly what would that difference be ? Im preety sure a Big T28 killer, will easily outflow a BB SR20 T28.

Besides if those 240sx's were AWD, those low 12 e.t's would easily be 11s.

Actually someone needs to do more homework, SR20 black tops weren't offered with the T28, they had T25's.

Black Top

* 1994-1998
* S13 180SX
* 202 hp @ 6000 rpm
* 203 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
* Garrett T25, 0.64A/R Exhaust
* 0.80A/R Compressor
* High-port head
* 370cc/min injectors
* Black valve cover, flat on top
* Better pistons, water pump, oil pickup than the Redtop

http://www.nissantech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12&pid=45&st=0&#entry45

You are a tool. Please check this link out and learn before you speak.

http://www.autowerksmotorsport.com/services/engine_nissan.html

My brother had an S14 with a blacktop SR20 which I helped him install. Instead of typing "SR20" in google and posting the first site you hit, maybe you should do some homework yourself. There are three versions of the SR20 engine, red top (T25), black top (T25), and black top (T28) for the RWD cars.

BTW: T28 killers aren't great turbos. Do some homework on that too.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

Holset HX35 or 40 if your up to it.. or even 35/40
http://www.bullseye-power.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=54
http://www.bullseye-power.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=61
http://www.bullseye-power.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=47

500whp easy