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[Burrito06]

This morning I was coming home from taking my mom to work and I was just around the corner from my house when a damn cat ran across the street in front of me. The only thing I could do was swerve on to a curb being that there was a car coming in the opposite direction. When I got out of the car I noticed that the right front tire is tucked away into the wheel well where as before it was perfectly even with the wheel well. I have H&R Springs that i used to lower them with. Can any of you help me with why this tire went so much lower then it normally is?

 

[bigK1]

Maybe you bent a control arm. Shoulda just hit the damn cat.

 

[Burrito06]

How much do you think that will run me? I didn't want to deal with the mess if I hit the cat. My front bumper could have gotten damaged.

 

[boostedinaz]

How much do you think that will run me? I didn't want to deal with the mess if I hit the cat. My front bumper could have gotten damaged.

So instead of being a normal human being and not wanting to hit the cat because it is fu(ked up, you swerved as too not mess up your bumper. Great logic. Now you have replace a control arm and perhaps someother components. You need to look under the car and see what is broken or bent. Compare it to the other side to get a good idea. if you dont see anything then take it to an alignment shop and see what they say is broken.

Michael

 

[Burrito06]

I already looked underneath the car and I don't see anything broken or bent. I'm taking off my springs tomorrow so I should be able to find out what it is.

 

[dets]

whY? don't take anything off unless you can tell what it is that you broke.


It might even be your frame. If you pulled it or pushed it too hard, it would sit the way your is sitting right now. How is your car riding? rubbing?

be a little more detailed. it doesn't sound like springs would do this.

 

[leet]

You more than likely bent something. Really bad move to avoid the cat. It's cheaper to just run it over.

 

[Rx3]

You more than likely bent something. Really bad move to avoid the cat. It's cheaper to just run it over.

What he said. If it ain't deer, moose, or human, then you plow it.





Bear, and other large animals are included on that list too. Assuming a Bear ever crosses the road in front of you

 

[Burrito06]

Luckily all that happened was my shock blowing. I bought new ones and now it is all better. Need an alignment and it will be even better. Thanks.

 

[cuttheduck]

A blown shock can cause the wheel to move in??
If thats all it is you are a lucky man. Doesn't quite seem right but i'll take your word for it

Also,,,Any Korean resturants around?,, you may be able to sell them that cat to help pay for your shock

 

[Burrito06]

No, the tire did not move in all that happened was that the fender dropped to about a half an inch so the top half of my tire could not be seen. I had to angle my fingers upward just so I could fell the top of the tires. I'm taking off the springs so I can sell them.

 

[kiakarimi]

shoulda hit the damn cat

 

[PaulPDX]

Dumb cat = dead cat.

Darwinism is useful.

 

[boostedinaz]

Dumb cat = dead cat.

Darwinism is useful.

I love Americans and humans. We take over other land, way of life, and just everyday things, and becasue they dont match with what we do they are dumb. I think it is great that everyone on this board would rather take the life of an animal than replace a few parts. I guess it is nice to be at the top of the food chain and not give two $hits about other creatures, but your car will be ok and that, aparently, is what matters. :thumbdown

Michael

 

[Attack Eagle]

I love Americans and humans. We take over other land, way of life, and just everyday things, and becasue they dont match with what we do they are dumb. I think it is great that everyone on this board would rather take the life of an animal than replace a few parts. I guess it is nice to be at the top of the food chain and not give two $hits about other creatures, but your car will be ok and that, aparently, is what matters. :thumbdown

Michael

I agree, I think you should avoid cats dogs and other of god's creatures, but what about grown humans? well they should look both ways!
j/k a little.

 

[PaulPDX]

I love Americans and humans. We take over other land, way of life, and just everyday things, and becasue they dont match with what we do they are dumb. I think it is great that everyone on this board would rather take the life of an animal than replace a few parts. I guess it is nice to be at the top of the food chain and not give two $hits about other creatures, but your car will be ok and that, aparently, is what matters. :thumbdown

Michael

Over-reacting a bit aren't we? Certainly not well thought out enough to be a valid argument.

Just what exactly are you proposing? for all people on this hemisphere to abandon North, Central, and South America and go back to where they came from? leaving it as untouched as it can possibly be?? And then what once the all ethic groups return to their "homelands"? Mankind were't always around historically.... so we all grow tails and slide back into the sea?

It's just one stupid cat. Not even an indigenious cat and most likely a stray cat that is (or an decendant of) one that someone had carelessly let loose at some point... in which case killing it is no worse than pest control.

Killing a pest is certainly a wiser decision than veering into on-comming traffic causing danger to the driver, passenger, and other motorists... or even hitting a curb which could cause a rollover if the speeds were high enough. If anything, if there weren't anyone behind him, he should have just slammed on the brake pedal with all of his might. However, given the situation, he probably didn't have time to look in the mirror.

So considering the circumstances, he did the best thing he thought of at that particular moment in time.

Chill. Keep your pets safe at home... where they belong.

 

[kiakarimi]

I love Americans and humans. We take over other land, way of life, and just everyday things, and becasue they dont match with what we do they are dumb. I think it is great that everyone on this board would rather take the life of an animal than replace a few parts. I guess it is nice to be at the top of the food chain and not give two $hits about other creatures, but your car will be ok and that, aparently, is what matters. :thumbdown

Michael

If we were all European i would have suggested he hit the cat too.
**NOTE: SARCASIM INTENDED**
(just so you don't get all worked up this time)

 

[boostedinaz]

Over-reacting a bit aren't we? Certainly not well thought out enough to be a valid argument.

My argument was very valid. i think it is funny that if it going to cause us the slightest inconvienance then an animals life is ok to take.

Just what exactly are you proposing? for all people on this hemisphere to abandon North, Central, and South America and go back to where they came from? leaving it as untouched as it can possibly be?? And then what once the all ethic groups return to their "homelands"? Mankind were't always around historically.... so we all grow tails and slide back into the sea?

I could care less were anyone goes. I never said that anyone had to go anywere at all, my point was that when we come in and change everything from what it was to what we think it "should" be. Then when it doesn't work out we dont understand why. It just makes people look dumb when they just exclaim that it is stupid and thats why it should or has died. It is doing what it knows to do and nothing more nothing less.

It's just one stupid cat. Not even an indigenious cat and most likely a stray cat that is (or an decendant of) one that someone had carelessly let loose at some point... in which case killing it is no worse than pest control.

To you maybe its stupid, but what about to the owner. i bet you would be so tuff and Mr. Cool if a little kid was freaking out and you had to tell them you ran over there cat. Again to you it may be a pest, but to others it is part of there family and it may go outside. If you are respobsible when driving through a neiberhood then you could avoid 90% of stupid shit that people do. I am not saying that you can avoid everything that goes on but avoiding an animal in a neighborhood setting is 95% doable.

Killing a pest is certainly a wiser decision than veering into on-comming traffic causing danger to the driver, passenger, and other motorists... or even hitting a curb which could cause a rollover if the speeds were high enough. If anything, if there weren't anyone behind him, he should have just slammed on the brake pedal with all of his might. However, given the situation, he probably didn't have time to look in the mirror.

I have never seen a cat on a freeway or a high traffic, fast paced street, have you? No, they are in neighborhood were a person should be driving slowly anyway and paying attention to everything somming into the street. That cat could have been a kid chasing ball. Just saying "it a stupid cat, hit it", could land someone in jail if they get used to it and endup running down a kid. Point is drive safely and keep an eye out for everything.

If we were all European i would have suggested he hit the cat too.
**NOTE: SARCASIM INTENDED**
(just so you don't get all worked up this time)
So considering the circumstances, he did the best thing he thought of at that particular moment in time.

Chill. Keep your pets safe at home... where they belong.

Thats my point. Now that we have made streets nothing but cars can be on them. The cat doesnt know that. In Tucson they are openly killing Mountian Lions becasue they are comming into peoples backyards and "making for unsafe living conditions" Ok, I see so you move out to the desert and take that land from an animal that has lived there for who knows how long. Then you get scared and kill it for doing nothing but comming into a place it "doesnt belong". Nice fu(king logic.

I get worked up because peopel think we are just the coolest thing ever. The earth the world, everything is ours and it will never go bad or run out. It is just as easy to change your pants as it is to kill an animal. Even though we dont see things doesnt mean they dont happen. The animals in your neighborhood maybe keeping the birds from $shitting on your precious car, the mice from comming in your house, but since we dont see it it is not important. There are things in this world that are bigger than are new 50 trim or how hot that chick is and we will be the first to blame something other than ourselves when it is gone and not helping us live our lifes.


Michael



PS It is a proven fact that in every serial killers early life they had no problem with killing or mutulating an animal, and that most thought it was funny. Alot of doctors will look at this type of behavior when seeing if people have mental problems.

 

[PaulPDX]

To you maybe its stupid, but what about to the owner. i bet you would be so tuff and Mr. Cool if a little kid was freaking out and you had to tell them you ran over there cat. Again to you it may be a pest, but to others it is part of there family and it may go outside. If you are respobsible when driving through a neiberhood then you could avoid 90% of stupid shit that people do. I am not saying that you can avoid everything that goes on but avoiding an animal in a neighborhood setting is 95% doable.

Most of the pets roaming the streets are strays. For the ones that aren't and are killed by cars... their irresponsible owners deserves what they get: a dead pet. These animals don't know any better. They depend on the actions of their owners for safety. If they are not smart enough to watch out for cars... well, shit happens. Did I say it was absolutely OK to hit anything that moves? No. Sometimes there just aren't enough time to brake or even veer away to avoid collision and car aren't built with brakes that are that good unless you upgrade to 13" brakes with 4 or more pot calipers.

I have never seen a cat on a freeway or a high traffic, fast paced street, have you? No, they are in neighborhood were a person should be driving slowly anyway and paying attention to everything somming into the street. That cat could have been a kid chasing ball. Just saying "it a stupid cat, hit it", could land someone in jail if they get used to it and endup running down a kid. Point is drive safely and keep an eye out for everything.

I guess you either don't pay enough attention or your area has few stray animals (with cougars roaming around, I can see why. ). I see cats and dogs on roads and highways all the time. Dead ones. I've even seen a dog get thrown from a pickup bed on the highway. And if you the cars on the highway could have avoided hitting that dog... you've been watching too many movies.

Stupid pet owners = dead pets.

No matter how fast or slow you drive in neighborhoods, if the timing is right... or wrong... a animal or a child can still wander into the street and be struck. Just two months ago a child was killed by a motorist in a Portland Oregon neighborhood. After a day of investigation, the Portland Police Dept. reach the conclusion that it was not the motorists fault. The child went through a stop sign and into traffic. To think that one can stop 3000 lbs of moving metal instantly is just plain naive and have no understanding of the laws of physics.

Thats my point. Now that we have made streets nothing but cars can be on them. The cat doesnt know that. In Tucson they are openly killing Mountian Lions becasue they are comming into peoples backyards and "making for unsafe living conditions" Ok, I see so you move out to the desert and take that land from an animal that has lived there for who knows how long. Then you get scared and kill it for doing nothing but comming into a place it "doesnt belong". Nice fu(king logic.

Irresponsible pet owners lead to dead or injured pets. It's as simple as that. Cars are going to be on the roads whether you like it or not. That's what the roads were built for. Pets belong safely in homes, not on the streets and unsupervised by their owners. If you're going to blame the cars on the roads then you might as well blame yourself, being a part of the motoring masses who demand roads to be built. Supply and demand. You drive, therefore you yourself are partially responsible for the culture and mentality you hate so much.

This thread isn't about whether it is right or wrong to kill a cat. Let's leave the soap box elsewhere please.

FYI, we were talking about a friggin little stray cat. Not a mountain lion. For that matter, what did you think your neighborhood was like before homes were built?? Did you think the home in which you live was there since the dawn of time?? Get off the box.

 

[leet]

Boostedinaz,

If I CAN avoid it, I will. I will NOT damage my car to save the life of a cat though. Sorry if that offends you.

 

[boostedinaz]

paulPDX. If you would have read my read my post in more detail you would have understood what i said. I plainy said that some situations are unavoidable, but that shouldn't stop you from trying.

You logic is dumb, becasue if the table were turned then you wouldn't be so strong minded. If you little brother crawled into the street then your family gets what they deserve a dead baby, cause they shoudl have watched him. I doubt it. There are alot of cats that go outside that are not strays including my cats and alot of people in my area and none of them have been killed. You are assuming and we all know what that leads to. Not to mention who decided when a person or thing is "supposed" to be.

I never said that the thread starter was a horrible person, he atleast swerved to avoid it so I commend him. I just thought it was fu(cked up that everyone just popped up and said kill it, its no big deal.

Michael

 

[PaulPDX]

paulPDX. If you would have read my read my post in more detail you would have understood what i said. I plainy said that some situations are unavoidable, but that shouldn't stop you from trying.

You logic is dumb, becasue if the table were turned then you wouldn't be so strong minded. If you little brother crawled into the street then your family gets what they deserve a dead baby, cause they shoudl have watched him. I doubt it. There are alot of cats that go outside that are not strays including my cats and alot of people in my area and none of them have been killed. You are assuming and we all know what that leads to. Not to mention who decided when a person or thing is "supposed" to be.

I never said that the thread starter was a horrible person, he atleast swerved to avoid it so I commend him. I just thought it was fu(cked up that everyone just popped up and said kill it, its no big deal.

Michael

If my kid or my pet runs into the street (where moving cars belong) and get killed, then it's my own damn fault for letting it happen. I'm certainly not going to blame it on the car. Even if the car WAS speeding. Why? because I know a baby or a pet has no business being in the street unsupervised in the first place.

My logic is stupid? You think it's wrong for hunters to hunt cougars because the cats are wandering into areas where their species have always roamed, but you think it's OK for pets to wander into where they don't belong? Who's stupid?

You're right. The American culture is to place blame on anyone but themselves... first the native americans, then the slaves from Africa, now the Muslims. Old lady gets burned by the hot coffee she ordered and sues the restaurant, etc. You yourself is no less guilty of it. You blame drivers for killing nameless dogs or cats in the streets as if the cats or dogs naturally belong on the roads.

Take the soapbox elsewhere. It has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[boostedinaz]

This thread has been answered and Ill keep defending my point until it gets closed. This is my one huge weakness.

How do you know that cats and dogs were not here before us? Oh thats right we are the greastist thing to come along and nothing was here before us, we created it all. You are using the same thinking as others and I try as much as possible to not think that way for these exact reasons.

These cats are nameless to you. I ahev said this many times and yet you still cannot comprehend that they may have an owner. You make it sound like killing a bum would be ok becasuse he shouldn't be sleeping under a bridge, that is not were he should "be." It would also be ok to kill because to you and me he has no name, no job, no public identity, therefore he is expendable.

Michael

 

[kiakarimi]

This thread has been answered and Ill keep defending my point until it gets closed. This is my one huge weakness.

How do you know that cats and dogs were not here before us? Oh thats right we are the greastist thing to come along and nothing was here before us, we created it all. You are using the same thinking as others and I try as much as possible to not think that way for these exact reasons.

These cats are nameless to you. I ahev said this many times and yet you still cannot comprehend that they may have an owner. You make it sound like killing a bum would be ok becasuse he shouldn't be sleeping under a bridge, that is not were he should "be." It would also be ok to kill because to you and me he has no name, no job, no public identity, therefore he is expendable.

Michael

Dude... Shut up. Its a moot point.

 

[boostedinaz]

Dude... Shut up. Its a moot point.

So dont post and move on if you dont care. It obvisously isnt if it has gone this far.

Michael