to install FMIC or not to ?

[Gamble97]

I'm still on my stock t25, but I have my fmic sitting at home. It looks so pretty and I want to install it, any downside to installing it w/ such a tiny turbo?

My other turbo hasnt' arrived yet, but hopefully soon...

 

[DGajre777]

No downside, as long as you keep your boost under 15psi on the stock turbo. You spool up might be a little slow with a FMIC, not really a downside though. It probably doesn't have the piping to bolt on to the T25 anyways.

 

[Gamble97]

well i am at 20psi right now. I guess I should install my boost controller.

 

[knighteclipse1]

Do ya think? Yeah, that would be a wise idea to have a boost controler if thats the kind of boost your running. Shouldn't be running much more then stock on a factory turbo, you'll just be shortening the life span of the turbo drastically at that psi level. Before you start getting the cart before the horse, make sure you have all the proper supporting mod's done before you upgrade the turbo.

 

[herostar]

Put it on, and get a boost controller to keep it below 15psi until you upgrade your fuel/tuning system.

 

[2gGSX]

If you install it now and switch to say an Evo III or any other non-side-firing turbo then you'll have to redo that section of your piping is all.

 

[Gamble97]

I'm getting a 3061 turbo. I don't think it's the same as the t25. I bought the fmic off of ebay and for fuel upgrades I currently had a walbro 190 (installed) and some 850cc injectors that I'm waiting to install when my motor is built.
All I have now is an exhaust, intake and Uicp and magically my stocker is pushing 20psi on the t25. I know it's on the edge of blowing soon, but I could care less. My setup should be done in the next month or so.

 

[2gGSX]

The walbro 190, while even rewired will be nowhere near enough to hold 850cc injectors to 100% IDC. What are you going to use to tune, and will this be a daily driver?

 

[DGajre777]

The walbro 190, while even rewired will be nowhere near enough to hold 850cc injectors to 100% IDC. What are you going to use to tune, and will this be a daily driver?

Agreed. With 850cc injectors you'll need a 255 fuel pump and a AFPR if you don't want fuel overrun. Forget about MAFT or SAFC for tuning (unless you want crappy idle and fuel trims), you'll need DSMLink or something with a EProm chip for the injectors.

 

[Gamble97]

Agreed. With 850cc injectors you'll need a 255 fuel pump and a AFPR if you don't want fuel overrun. Forget about MAFT or SAFC for tuning (unless you want crappy idle and fuel trims), you'll need DSMLink or something with a EProm chip for the injectors.

yes this will be my daily driver.
I currently have dsmlink (not yet installed)
I have on order a fuel pressure regulator as well and a fuel pressure gauge.
I know that I will have to upgrade my fuel pump, but when I purchased the car 6 months ago I got a deal on the 190 so I figured for the time being that it would be good enough.

 

[knighteclipse1]

Just a suggestion, you might want to fill out your profile so we have an idea with what your working with, that way you won't have to explain yourself each time someone wants to know in order to try and help you. Sounds like your getting good advice. How much boost do you plan on running on the new turbo? And what are your HP goals?

 

[reeper]

20 psi on stock turbo, your blowing hot air at that point.

 

[Gamble97]

20 psi on stock turbo, your blowing hot air at that point.

yeah I know that for sure. I haven't had time to install the MBC lately.

your right, I will do my profile. My goals are about 400whp and about 20-22psi

 

[reeper]

Also running that much on stock turbo Will cause damage to it.

 

[Gamble97]

The turbo is on it's last leg, so I could really care less what happens to it. I just need it to last until the swap. So maybe 2 months or so. I never really get on it seeing how it boosts so high.

 

[jtxtrmboost]

Definitely get a boost controller on there, the T-25 wont last long (at least mine didn't).

Shouldn't be a problem if you put the FMIC on, like 2gGSX said though - if you mount the piping to the T-25 that may be different than the turbo your going to put on. Make sure its a passanger side spitter like the T-25 and you'll be golden. If anything its a good thing because you'll be ready to hang your turbo right when you get it b/c you already have the FMIC on - assuming you have the other stuff intalled as well.

Good Luck FMIC's are a PITA to put on sometimes (at least it was for me)

Keep boostin that T-25 if you don't care about it! Half the fun is blowing it

 

[Gamble97]

haha thanks. I know that when I put my fmic on my mazdaspeed protege is was nothing but I pain in the ass. This one doesn't look so bad though. The piping on my mazda seemed to go on forever. I'm actually not 100% sure if the turbo I got is a side spitter. I know it's a drop it, because I got it from dejontool and they said it will just bolt right up.

 

[jtxtrmboost]

Good to hear you got one FMIC job under your belt!

Find out what side the piping goes to and what size it is, if its a bolt on deal (from a vendor like dejon) it should be for a specific turbo. Also if its short route or long route.

What turbo are you getting?

 

[Gamble97]

Good to hear you got one FMIC job under your belt!

Find out what side the piping goes to and what size it is, if its a bolt on deal (from a vendor like dejon) it should be for a specific turbo. Also if its short route or long route.

What turbo are you getting?

well I was sure someone was going to ask me sooner or later. I wasn't crazy about posting it, but wtf. The FMIC I got was the ebay one w/ all the piping. I was really wiery about buying it being so inexpensive, but the quality is awesome. I paid $1250 for an intake,bov,fmic for my mazdaspeed and it was all shit.
The turbo is a GT35 w/ a sbr cast manifold. I also got all new gaskets, and oil lines. Everything needed to cap off the stock water lines too and drop this bad boy in. It's sitting at home right now. I can't wait until my motor is done and my tranny is on order.

 

[jtxtrmboost]

R U Kidding - don't even worry about the eBay FMIC, my core is 24x12x4 from godspeed on eBay. The quality is amazing and the price is even better. I would never steer anyone to a vendors FMIC kit, they are WAY to expensive.

Have fun with that GT35R - Damn your going straight fromt the T too slow to the GT35, thats like a kia rio to a dodge viper! That thing is going to rip with a good tune

 

[Gamble97]

sweet thanks. btw it's only a 35 not a 35r. The price diff was almost $500 and I didn't see it being worth it. So my turbo came in today and I took some pics, it's a down firing turbo not a side spitter like the t25. I can install my fmic to the stock t25 for now but I will be needing some more pipes. I dont know what to do for now, but I do have my new gauges, gauge pod, dsmlink, short shifter, and suspension bushing to install, so I may start there and do the rest at a later time.

 

[kmoore]

I don't mean to high jack this thread but I think i would have been bashed if i started a new one so here it goes... I am looking at the Dejon FMIC (long route piping) and I am also on the t-25. I am planning on upgrading to an EvoIII16g in the near future so i want to get the supporting mods done right away. On Dejon's site they have an option to choose what turbo you have. If i chose the option of the "side-outlet (T-25)" and installed it with the t-25 on the car; then when the EvoIII16g came in, what kind of modification (piping wise) would i have to do to switch from the t-25 piping to the E316g piping? I know i need a j-pipe and i guess some sort of 90 degree angled pipe but is that it? Thanks for the space

 

[Gamble97]

Why don't you get the turbo and then get the fmic and just install it all at once? You will save yourself a lot of trouble. I know this isn't the answer your looking for, but honestly where are you going on a t25?
What's wrong w/ short route piping with the ebay intercooler? (aside from if you want to keep your fog lights.)
If you decide to do it on the t25 then later switch to the 16g, I would call dejon tool and see if they can sell you the individual pipes to switch it over. I have bought a bunch from them and they have always been very cool.

 

[kmoore]

Yeah I think I will call dave and see what he has to say. Also, I have no problems with the ebay FMIC but to be honest with you I haven't bought a single thing off of ebay, and I am just more comfortable buying from a reputable company. Also, I already have the UICP's from dave, so the kit with the long route piping utilizes the already installed hard UICP's. I just want to get every supporting mod done & installed before the turbo. That way when I slap the turbo on I can have no worries. So is the j-pipe and a 90 degree angled pipe all that i need to switch from the t-25 to the E316g? Thanks for the input