thick white smoke....

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

today i was driving to school and went to pass some old lady so i dropped into 3rd and passed her, while do so, i heard a loud popping noise followed by a high pitched whirring noise which continued when i began to accelerate. I didnt think much of it until i had got to school and noticed the huge amount of thick white smoke coming out of my exhaust. i was like WTF....so i turned off my car, turned it back on ideling, and thick white smoke began to pour out of my exhaust again. I have oil pressure and my engine temp doesnt fluctuate and is in the safe range. my questions is WHAT IS CAUSING THIS THICK WHITE SMOKE TO POUR OUT OF MY EXHAUST!??!?!?!?

 

[JTito]

A blown turbo is cool to have man.... my turbo was blown I was like heeeeelllll ya now I get to spray peeps who bug me with my stinky smoke! poopy butt

 

[TUI2I30]

A blown turbo is cool to have man.... my turbo was blown I was like heeeeelllll ya now I get to spray peeps who bug me with my stinky smoke! poopy butt

Was that supposed to be funny, or helpful? If you keep running a blown turbo you risk having the fins from the turbo wheels force fed straight into your engine. Especially in this case where the fins are already rubbing! Is that really what you want? Hope this helps you as well!

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

i had to remove one of the radiator fans to get some of the heat shield bolts off....i have 2 bolts on the lower heat sheild left. but i cant get to them with a rachet. the alternator it about an inch too close....how do i go about removing them? do they make a slimmer ratchet? also, all i want to extract is the turbo, would it be easier to take the turbo off the manifold while bolted to the engine, or should i take the manifold off also?

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

Bolts in question: pointed to in red

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[TUI2I30]

do you have any combination wrenches? if not, I would get some. it is impossible to get to all the bolts with just a socket set.

 

[fwdturbobov1996]

How to get to those bolts, a wrench.

What are those bolts if thats what your asking. Looks like o2 to turbo bolts .. corect me if im wrong. But theres that shield. O well

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

i got the bolts off, the only thing holdign me back is the 02 sensor....looks like a i got to buy a special socket attachment to get it off....seems like every bolt i come to i have to run to auto zone and buy a tool

 

[TUI2I30]

yes, there is a special socket to take the o2 out. you only really need this tool if you are removing the o2 while the housing is still in the car. if you follow the wires back you should find a connector that you can simply disconnect and pull it with the o2 housing and turbo. When it is out you can use pretty much any kind of wrench to break it free.

I just finished rewiring my gauges and made the wires neater. man, I'm never buying a car that someone else has wired up again, unless I intend to strip it all out first. they actually had wire nuts in my car, and a wire running out to the fuse box under the hood!! WTF wire nuts!!

How to get to those bolts, a wrench.

What are those bolts if thats what your asking. Looks like o2 to turbo bolts .. corect me if im wrong. But theres that shield. O well

A wrench, geez, I guess I was too specific.

as for the bolts, if you look a little closer you will see the the heat shield that he is trying to remove to get his turbo out. the bolts he is trying to remove are NOT the bolts that hold the o2 housing to the turbo.

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

i figured there was a tool made.....but it was 11pm before i realized i needed it...i tried to undo the 02 connector....but it seems to be attached to a little metal bracket thats attached to the block....i dunno, when i inspected and saw that it was late and dark, ill try again tomorrow when its light out. and im made my decision on a turbo....T-28killer

 

[tsi4ya]

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Turbo Outlet

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SMIC

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HAHahahHAHAHAHAH dude thats classsic!!! at 1st i was like what the? then it hit me. hahah I know what u mean, i think my turbo is blowen too. This is good and bad because this might mean evo 16G but it also means a arm and a leg. but i just had to give u the on the pic!]

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

AT LONG LAST, I HAVE REACHED IT...

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what fluids should i drain before i remove it? just the oil? the access point for the oil drainage is the bolt on the bottom of the oil pan correct? i dont wanna mess anything else up

 

[TUI2I30]

oil and coolant should be drained. oh and good job!

yes, there is a bolt on the oil pan nearest the bottom. Also the pet #### is on the bottom of the radiator, it escapes me to which side though.

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

ive now drained the coolant and have all the lines disconnected from the turbo...this one: its a metal line in between the housing and the turbine itself, right under the manifold...what size wrench is it? i tried reaching it from below...there was a 2 way fitting, but the line just twisted

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from under the car...

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[TUI2I30]

I'd be guessing at the sizes, but make sure you us pb blaster or similar penetrating oil and let it sit so you don't break/bend/twist the lines.

I'm also on the market for a new turbo, I got my car running smooth tonight and white smoke out the tail pipe while idling and lightly revving. The bottom of my turbo is soaked in oil and around the oil return line where it meets the oil pan. I have SOME oil in my pipes, but not too much since I didn't drive it. I'm never buying a non-running car with the intent to get it running again. All the help I've been offering, was just practice I guess. WTF

guess since this is local I may pick it up tomorrow..

http://store.extrememotorsports.com/browse.cfm/4,1012.html

EDIT:
I pulled my turbo tonight, here are some pics of the aftermath. Also, the sizes I used to get MY oil and coolant lines off were 10mm, 3/4, and 7/8. The bolts mounting the turbo though the manifold were a bi*** to break but I got them off (leverage and persistance). Didn't even need to break out the air tools! Hope these help. It took me roughly 2 hrs to complete the pull. I was fighting light rain.

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[99GSXAWDTURBO]

wow, that really blows...odd how it happened to you also...at least you know what your doing...unlike me... i had a buddy take apart my turbo...this is what i found:

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there IS NOT supposed to be a hold there

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[TUI2I30]

wow, that really blows...odd how it happened to you also...at least you know what your doing...

It blows no more for me than it does for you. But what happened to me is I bought someone elses headaches and made them my own. Starting to rethink that idea real fast. As I dig, I find more and more crap. I'll get her figured out though, I don't give up until I have no more money to spend. I have 2 turbos with turbines that look exactly like that!!

 

[tsi4ya]

Okay guys i check out the turbo and i have no shaft play. . .soooo that might mean that it is one of my gasket right? thanks

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

on the turbo bolts....are there 3 that come out and one thats a stud that stays in the housing? if not i fear i might have snapped one off...also the same question for the 02 housing...how many bolts are actually removable and how many studs are in it?

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

i just discovered a rather long, large crack in my exhaust manifold, its on the inside on the bottom that goes into the turbo....should i be concerned about it?

 

[TUI2I30]

On the turbo bolts, there should be 4. If you broke one off, no sweat, it happens a lot!

for broken bolts
http://www.plymouthlaser.com/tbolt.htm

for detailed pics
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/turbo-swap.html

 

[TUI2I30]

Okay guys i check out the turbo and i have no shaft play. . .soooo that might mean that it is one of my gasket right? thanks

I'd be glad to help... in your thread.

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

the bolt itself didnt break off in the manifold or 02 housing, the nut that the actual broke off the bolt themselves and i now have full length bolts sticking out of my turbo inlet and exhaust side

 

[oldman]

Hold up guys, I have some suggestions that might help. The fact that oil was shooting out of the oil cap as well as the dipstick indicates that the blown turbo isn't the problem, it's just one of the symptoms of the problem, allow me to explain. It seems to me that your problem is excessive crankcase pressure which cause oil to be blown out of oil cap, dipstick, turbo seals that we know of so far. If it was only the turbo seal, there should not be oil forced out of oil cap and dipstick. Here's a post I made yesterday about my encounter last year which is very similar to your situation. Sorry TUI2I30 you've already read this.

Let me share my experience with this issue which may be helpful to some of you. About 9 months ago while installing my new FMIC kit, I cleaned out my intake manifold (well kind of) and decided to route both my pcv and breather to a catch can. While struggling with boost leak and boost creep issues after the install I noticed my oil dipstick started to pop out. Like what most would do I replace it with a new one but the problem persisted so I proceeded to pinch the tube like 94Jettameowpsst and the problem was fixed, I was mighty proud of myself in fact. Two days later on a cold and wet morning on the way to work I started smoking bad out of my tail pipe, turned around (2min from my house) to discover my catch can built in sponge filter was frozen and my ingenious dipstick solution had effectively sealed off the last possible venting route and my fate. It took out my turbo seal, valve seals and some damage to the oil ring.

I hope you guys are right and I'm wrong but I have a feeling the damage is not limited to turbo seal. The important thing right now is to find the source of the problem. 99GSXAWDTURBO, how are your pcv and breather valve routed off the valve cover?

 

[prophecy7115]

Blowing things are bad but good. Bad because it just sucks. Good because you could always upgrade! This same exact thing happened to me a week ago and i decided to get a 20g

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

i dont really know what a pcv is.... but the the breather spot on my valve cover is routed back into the intake, which is now i changed. i know FOR A FACT it was the turbo. oil wasnt shooting out of my dipstick or my oilcap, that never occured.