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...go with AWD....the GS-T sounds like it was abused....and one other quick question for you....do you know it has a 255 fuel pump....if he doesn't have a reciept i would assume it doesn't have it. that is the easiest way to help yourself out later on down the road when you're trying to get a good tune and for some reason you can't seem to get enough fuel. If he really knew what he was doing he would have gotten rid of that stock plastic intake pipe as well. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk...just trying to help you protect yourself.
Probably not something you should say here. A lot of people on here do run on the streets but it is highly discouraged and not really to be spoken of.
and then bought a 99 eclipse GS that i had for a year and then sold it recently for 4500, now im car-less but am gonna get a DSM for sure.
LMKVICDSM said:ok guys so i've read multiple threads and visited countless websites reading the pros and cons of GST's and GSX's but i still cant decide which one to get, i am going to buy either a GST or a GSX this friday no matter what, its part of my new years resolution
here are the mods the 99 GST has...
-16g Turbo Upgrade-Daily Drive 14lbs Of Boost-Polyurethane Mounts-Greddy Turbo Timer-Greddy 3 Inch Exhaust-Greddy Hard Pipe Kit-ACT Street Clutch-Aftermarket Headlights-Eclipse Brand Cd/Mp3 Player-Stainless Steel Interior Trim-Autometer Boost & Air/Fuel Gauges....All this stuff SOUNDS/SEEMS well and good....but BEWARE. Again, I will explain myself shortly.
Having the knowledge about these cars that I do now, vague descriptions and non-specific parts, like some of these that caught my eye, bother me.
-Big Side Mount Intercooler....As far as I know , there isn't a BIG side mount intercooler that is specific to the Eclipse...so most likely, it'll be a hell of a hack job (Think Supra Side-Mount...look it up here on the forums. I wouldn't elect to install it on mine. The Write up has pictures and, IMO, they don't look pretty).
-Short Throw Shifter...Okay? What Brand?? Reciepts/Records?? Are you sure it's not something like your stock shifter chopped down a few inches, rewelded, reinstalled?? How well does the car shift?? Notchy? Hard? Sloppy?
-Manual Boost Controller...Again, Okay?...Is it a reputable, tried, and true product or some hacked together POS (Think solid block of aluminum, with two holes drilled into it, with nipples on both ends, and an "Adjustable Control Knob" that's siezed into place and looks like it was chewed up with vice grips)??
-255 Walbro Fuel Pump...Have you seen documentation of this?? If not are you going to open up the back seat and get into the tank to see proof??
-2 Inch Springs...Aftermarket or Hacked up Stockers??
-Big Blow Off Valve...WTF..I'm sorry but what exactly does that mean? Does that add like an extra 25hp or something? BIG BOV?? Again, is it a tried and true product?? He may be running a mild boost pressure, but will it hold up in the long run, or be yet another part you'll have to replace?
-New Master Cylinder.......
-New Throw Out Bearing.....
-New Slave Cylinder..............These are pretty big, I'd say. Believe it when you see it! Don't just take his word for it.
-No Boost Leaks..You positive??? Have him test it in front of you. I'd be willing to bet that there is a leak, however small or large, somewhere in the system.
-Removed Power Steering...I'm with everyone else here when they say that this one sucks
-Removed A/C....It's a horse a piece. Totally your preference.
-Removed Cruise Control...I like this luxury, but to each his own.
-Speedo Sensor Is Down...This one is near the top of my list of red flags. So, you have no frame of reference for your speed at all? Wiseman/Proven Members, correct me if I'm wrong, but this could go either way, fairly easy to fix/replace or a nightmare waiting to happen?
the 98 GSX has...
124,000 miles...The only thing that I'm going to say is, don't judge a book by it's cover. It doesn't mean that the entire car is a pile/bust. Be smart about this.
-i've never bought a car with over 75k miles on it, my driving style would be just to school, work, maybe a 2 hour drive here and there and some highway and stoplight fun...I don't see a reason why a GSX wouldn't be suitable for this.
-i dont see myself doing to much work on the cars as i only have 6000 to work with...You mean, for now??? Or, at all, you just want to gas it and go?? I think that you'll find, in time, that if indeed you don't think you'll really do any work on the car, this opinion will change. And fast! These cars are fun!
-oh yeah i live in WI if thats any help.....As am I! West Bend area. Once you find the one that's right for you, hit me up on here. I have yet to get to some of the midwestern meets and I look forward to doing so. Hope to see you there or hear from ya!
-i want to make my decision the right one and not regret it later on:...With everything that I have just written about your post, you may think that I'm just a pessimistic troll, but I can assure you, this is not the case. I will admit that I have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth from what happpened when I bought mine, but I'm just trying to give you idea's to think about, things to look out for, things to research before you pull the trigger, etc.
Slow down man! Don't base purchasing one of these cars on a funny superstition or resolution as I believe that will definately brew you up an equation for sorrow and regret.
I'm saying all this because just over a year ago, I was jumping into the DSM world with both feet in and ONE eye open...kind of how it seems with you. You just gotta have one. I found, what is now my GSX, with a "Fully Built Motor and Trans - Immaculate inside and out!" for around the same price point as what you are currently debating on. The guy who was selling is seemed to be nice enough and know about DSM pretty well. He had tons of cars and parts around the "shop" and premesis, and "has worked on these cars for years and years." Well, I went to the guys "Shop" to check the car out and everything seemed to chek out alright. The guy even had the paperwork for all of the parts, that he described, were on the car. So, a week later, we finalize the deal and I'm now the proud and happy owner of a GSX!...atleast at the time I was. Happy, that is.
That was last November. Now, fast forward to this past Septmber when I pulled it out of storage for the first time in 10 months. First try at starting it up...nothing...dead battery..no biggie. I bought a new one and problem solved and she fired right up! It's was time to take it for a drive. And as luck, or in this case the poor skills of a hackjob mechanic, would have it, 15 miles down the road, my trans takes a dump. I estimate, at this point, that I've put 170 miles on the car since I bought it. 170 miles and under NO circumstances ran under ANY amount of boost. At this point, I decide to tear the car completely down and find out what else was "fully built." As it turns out, just about everything that was advertised as being "fully built" was false. None of it was there, worked on, installed, etc.
I know this is REALLY long and I apologize for that, however I'm just trying to persuade you to slow down and research this forum for a while, so you know what to look for and what these cars are all about. It takes more then just surfing craigslist, autotrader, or ebay, and reading a MODS LIST, to really feel confident in what you're buying. You can't just take people's words for it these days, and in my case, physical evidence of paperwork. It's sad, I know. The bate and switch of paperwork (I've concluded that the paperwork he showed me was all of the work that was performed on HIS 95' Auto-Xing GSX and he played it off to be the 96' GSX that I purchased) sucks. So, watch out for that! My hope for you is that, this helped open your eyes up to taking a bit of caution when pursuing these cars. If I can somehow help atleast a handful of people avoid a situation like mine, I'll be happy
I think that after you've aquired some of the knowledge that floods this forum, you'll be better prepared to purchase the "right" Eclipse for yourself.
Oh! I can't forget...HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!
