The Official "What's this DSM worth?" Thread

[ImportWarrior]

just got a new pic of it at lunch today.

they are big so i just posted the links.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/I-W/GSX/99_GSX_Burgandy_5.jpg

seems as if the timing belt let lose. they are going to rebuild the head. and put in a new timming belt...
just my luck.



95 seems to be all stock.

99 dont know who modded it. appears to be a reposession that this local dealer got from an auction. knowing who did the mods is probably impossible. it seems to be done properly. looks like a B16G front mount. ( dont know brand) hard pipes, HKS BOV, S-AFC.
oil pressure gauge, oil temp gauge, boost guage. dont know how well it was tuned.

older pics

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/I-W/GSX/99_GSX_Burgandy_3.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/I-W/GSX/99_GSX_Burgandy_4.jpg

 

[fatherbubble]

Hmmm, someone wasn't keeping up on the car. Broken timing belt thats bad. I hope the pistons weren't damage. The price for the 999 with those mods is way to high. I know for a fact that as a car dealer. When you sale a car with mods on it. It sells lower than a stock car. An he got it at a auction so he only at the most payed 4k for it. I bought a BMW 318IS for 6K from a dealer an 2 weeks after i found out the dealer got it for 1700. thats when I went to get the title don't an asked for the sale price on the vehicle at the DMV. Also alot of dealers wont touch cars with mods for the reason they don't know if its going to stay running. Thats why alot of people on here end up parting out there cars. As for my Talon its a AWD an I paid 3k for it. It has some rust on it but rust is easy to get rid of. All you need is time an sandpaper an a good primer. And when your done put the road sealant spray on the bottom of the car to keep it from rusting again.

 

[Defiant]

Aw, holy crap, people. Check the goddamned VIN.

 

[omair8]

Hey guys i'm looking to purchase a 92 tsi awd 5 speed. It's got a little over 240,000 kms and the timing belt had just went on the car. The guy is willing to trade his talon for my SUV (2000 Kia Sportage) and he's willing to put cash down for around $800 on top. Any other things i should be on the look out for for this car?

Forgot to mention the seller says he was trying to start the car one day and the belts were not moving fast enough to start the car, so what are the chances of damaging the valves, pistons, etc?

 

[mesarius]

By "the timing belt just went" do you mean it slipped? Snapped?

 

[4Motion4g63]

Look at your worse case it needs a Engine rebuild or just a head at least..... might as well do the whole thing though...

 

[omair8]

I'll have to clarify with the seller if the belt slipped or snapped. But right now the way it looks i don't think it's worth it if ill need to do major maintenance for it, and im pretty sure the $800 cash he's putting on top won't cover much.

 

[sadc]

Heres what i got from hawaii....its a 1997 gsx AWD turbo with a 20g frankenstien turbo. Fmic greddy pipes. SAFC AVCR short shifter drilled and slotted rotors. 50 shot dry nitro. 660rc injectors. Built bottom end. halo headlights. drop on ebiach springs and tokiko struts. 3" straight pipe. Greddy exhaust. Apexi TT,egt,boost guage. Narrow band phantom A/F gauge. ALL FOR THE PRICE OF 3800

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So good deal or no?

 

[ali]

throw away the front bumper then yes I would say you got a good deal

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

IT's GOT NAAAWWWZZZZZ!!!!



Sorry I couldn't resist.

Looks like a good deal to me.

+1 on getting rid of that riced out front bumper.

WTF is on the exhaust manifold??

 

[sadc]

oh its a heat cover for it....it started to make my hood hella hot! so i picked one up from the junk yard it was from a 1g talon

 

[Dark_Horse]

Take a look at this link and tell me what a decent price to offer would be. No way in hell I'm paying $2,900.

1992 eagle talon TSI (awd)

Note: Tires are brand new. Drivers fender is dented from door hitting it when it opens. Paint is primer.

I was thinking maybe offering $1,750. Is that still too much?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

oh its a heat cover for it....it started to make my hood hella hot! so i picked one up from the junk yard it was from a 1g talon

Is it the lower cover stretched and bent to fit on top??? Looks like the hole for the wastegate actuator on top there...

 

[sadc]

Is it the lower cover stretched and bent to fit on top??? Looks like the hole for the wastegate actuator on top there...

no idea....i just picked it up and slapped it on that bad boy

 

[2gGSX97]

Ok there's a guy in my area that is selling his 94 gst. He says it has a built 4g63t, 6 bolt. It's flat black, and he's asking $3000. Here's the list of things he says it has done to it. He did these things himself because he says he is a certified mechanic. He didn't have any pics but says the body is clean and no rust. Just wondering if it is something I should be getting into or if I should stay away. Don't want to waste my time looking at it if it's not worth it. Also he said it needs a good tune.

T60
FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER
BUILT BLOCK 4G63T
ARP HEAD STUDS
ARP ROD BOLTS
7 BOLT PISTONS
IG BIG RODS
BALENCED CRANK
NEW PORTED AND POLISHED HEAD
SS SPRINGS AND RETAINERS
3 ANGLE VALVE JOB
ALSO VALVES ARE OVER SIZED
PORTED AIR INTAKE
4 LAYER HEAD GASKET
NEW T BELT
HARD PIPING
HKS SSQ BOV
TURBO XS TUBEULAR MANIFOLD
EXTERNAL WASTEGATE 8PSI SPRING
MEGAN RACIN SUSPENSION
KYB STRUTS ALL THE WAY AROUND
3in TURBO BACK EXHAUST WITH MAGNAFLOW STAINLESS MUFFLER
255 WALBRO FUEL PUMP
NEW CLUTCH AND RESURFACED FIY WHEEL
ACT 2600

INSIDE STUFF

AUTOMETER PRO-COMP SILVER GAUGES
WATER TEMP
AIR FUEL
VOLTS
BOOST
OIL PRESSURE

APEXI SAFC 2 NEW
SHORT SHIFTER


CONS

FLAT BLACK PAINT
FWD NOT AWD
CAR NEEDS A GOOD TUNE !!!!!!!


OK NOW 4 THE CAR OPIONS

POWER WINDOWS
POWER LOCKS
TILT CRUSE
NO A/C
NEWER CD PLAYER
TINTED WINDOWS
ALARM SYSTEM WITH TURBO TIMER BUILT IN
BLACK INTERIOR

 

[Boost92awd]

I would be careful, sounds like something might be up. Thats a very low price for whats all done to that car. I paid $3300 for my car that was bone stock, but then again it only had 55,000 miles on it. It probally wouldnt hurt to go look at it, but look over everything. Take it for a test drive and see how it drives.

 

[housegsx]

Needs a good tune sends out a red flag.

Having all those go fast parts and still using safc sends out a red flag.

My guess would be that the car has never run right and that is why it's being sold. Not a well sorted car. But that's just a guess so who knows. You never can tell unless you go look at it.

 

[2gGSX97]

Needs a good tune sends out a red flag.

Having all those go fast parts and still using safc sends out a red flag.

My guess would be that the car has never run right and that is why it's being sold. Not a well sorted car. But that's just a guess so who knows. You never can tell unless you go look at it.

Thing is that I wouldn't know what to look for if I did go look at it. I mean of course I know obvious things, but I'm no dsm know it all. He said he does daily drive this though.

Also, are all of those parts decent? I know some of them by name, but does everything seem fairly decent as far as internals and such (example: IG big rods)?

 

[DSMNoGames]

i would buy it. 3000$ is pretty cheap and if you can't get it to run properly or whatever you can always sell it and get your money back

 

[surfer5567]

like title says i am looking to buy my first dsm and i have done research awhile ago but i am still reluctant to get into them. the cars main purpose will be daily driving/track car. i have another vehicle to use just in case but i want a reliable car i can track/take to snow/have fun with and not worry too much. here is the discreption on the car i am looking to get. i know it needs a tranny and i am looking at a shep stage one(if i get the car). any insight would be awesome! is this the right car for me?

Price Is 4250 OBO come and get it i have clean title in hand Im in the process of buying a house and i have to let my toy go. I have a hevely modded 1991 1gen dsm eclipse GSX turbo. it is black with cloth seats the seats and
interior are in fair shape the engine is almost new it is heavly modded. it is a fully built 4g63 2.3l stroker motor. here is the list of mods

1991 Mitsubishi eclipse gsx 2.3liter stroker
The Good: Car runs great, engine only has 10,000 miles on rebuild,

The Bad: Transmission bearings making noise, car will not pass smog due to engine Mods, cams need to be swapped back for smog. Have original cams and air cleaner. also registration is paid current.

Mods
Engine
1. fully built 2.3 liter storker motor
2. wiseco pistons
3. eagle rods
4. 4G64 crank shaft in 4G63 block
5. fully port and polished head
6. SS stainless steal valves “ nitrite coated”
7. C and C machined head
8. New water pump
9. All new hoses
10. Factory Mitsubishi timing belt and timing belt tensioner and all pullies
11. New crank shaft vibration dampener
12. Balance shaft illumination kit
13. New oil pump and front cover assembly
14. New valve cover
15. Brian Crower 272 duration cam shaft intake and exhaust
16. Intake manifold spacer plate intake never gets hot allows more boost
17. Evo 3 exhaust manifold
18. Evo 3 16G turbo ported
19. new alternator
20. new ac compressor just needs new high pressure live and reciever drier
21. urathane engine mounts
22. new ignition coils and ignition transistor

Drive train
1. ACT light weight flywheel
2. Slowboy racing 4500 clutch assembly
3. New slave cylinder, clutch fork and pivot ball, throw out bearing
4. TRE spec transmission “ Bearing starting to make noise” Rebuilt 50K miles ago

Induction
1. EVO 3 16G turbo ported
2. Turbo X’S front mount inner cooler
3. 2 1/2” inner cooler piping from turbo to intake
4. Dijion tool turbo intake 3”
5. 3” GM MAFT blow through design with mass air translator
6. Greddy BOV type R
7. Turbo X’s boost controller manual
8. New throttle body seals
9. Fast idle air valve bloke off installed

Electronics
1. 1992 ECU e- Prommed
2. HKS turbo timer
3. Palm data logger
4. New Kenwood deck with cd player
5. All new speakers
Suspension
1. EIBACH Pro kit springs
2. KYB shocks and struts
3. New front sway bar end links
Fuel
1. Walbro 255 L fuel pump
2. New fuel filter
3. FIC 650CC fuel injectors

Exhaust
1. VRS 3” turbo back with 3” high flow cat and Magna flow muffler

Gauges all auto meter: Phantom
1. EGT temp gauge
2. 30 PSI boost/ 30 PSI vacuum
3. oil pressure
4. air fuel ratio gauge “ not a wide band”
New front axles and carrier bearings Needs drivers front wheel bearings. Has new brakes, pads and rotors. Tires are in ok condition

this is one hell of a deal for the mods done to vehicle. this thing pulls extremely hard and should not have a problem running in the low 12s to 11s hopefully even quicker. this is sold as is and wont pass smog until cams are swapped back. engine has always run mobile 1 10w30 engine oil and trans always bg syncroshift 2 im sure im forgetting tons of stuff that has been done to the car just shoot me an email. car is at my shop in dublin please only serious inquires ive got over $15k invested

 

[crimsondragon]

My god, these questions never seem to cease do they?

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...m-buyers-guide-what-look-when-buying-dsm.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...estions/238710-dsm-used-car-buyers-guide.html

 

[FLASH1970]

It has a balance shaft illumination kit?
I know it's a typo. . Well, for the price, it sounds like a good deal if all it needs is a trans.

 

[surfer5567]

i read both of those and it answered a majority of my questions. my next question is how do these mods that the guy has said is in the car stack up? does it sound like a potentially reliable car? also how much would it generaly cost to get a trans like he has rebuilt and a new wheel bearing? if i replace one should i replace them all?

thanks for the help!! wanting to make the most edcuated purchase i can. not looking for headaches.

 

[Daaan]

This guy not too far from me is selling his 1995 Eagle Talon Tsi. He wants $1800 for it and claims that the engine is making a loud noise. It could be the lifters but im thinking its the rods. How hard is it to replace the rods, and how much money do you think it wouild cost? He just said on the phone that its drivable, just makes a loud noise. I have a 1992 Talon Non Turbo and have rebuilt the cylhead and replaced basically everything. Im prety good mechanically and willing to learn. Ps. im taking a look at it tomorrow.
Thanks for the help everyone, heres the link.

1995 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD - Oshawa Other Cars For Sale - Kijiji Oshawa

 

[throwedgsx]

There's no reason why this car couldn't be reliable as long as it was built/put together right. Offer him 3500 see what happens. It sounds like a hell of a deal.