XiKeiyaZI
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- Dec 28, 2008
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Goldsboro,
North Carolina
I was looking through pictures of Wrex, my old 2G AWD Stroker and realized just how bad I missed her. So, with Tax time coming around and several other income sources finally flourishing, I had planned on buying a new car - but.. I think I've decided to build my final DSM. A 2G AWD Stroker, 2.3, nothing that's going to be breaking any records - aiming for 450+ AWHP. I'd like to discuss my build ideas, get some input from the experienced crowd, and see if I can get a price outlined.
So, besides the shell - Here's what's planned.
I have a stock 1G 6 Bolt Longblock with ARPs.
1 : Disassemble engine
2 : Purchase Stroker Components
3 : Take block, crank, rings, bearings, rods, & Pistons to machine shop.
4 : Tank the Block - Bore it - Level it if needed - O-ring it
5 : Install rotating assembly
6 : Build the head - (272's, 3g lifters, Ti Retainers, Non-decided on springs and Valves)
7 : Assemble and perform the 6 Bolt swap.
Now, the big questions are as follows, and based on this fact : I want to enjoy quick spool with the ability to generate moderately good numbers. We are not talking Fuel, Tuning, anything like that. I know exactly where I'm going. I just need to focus on the engine for the moment.
1 : Is .040 overkill or should I even worry about more bore - of course depending on if it needs to be or not.
2 : If I'm stroking and aiming for the 450 range, should I really go aftermarket on the rods/pistons? (I went full eagle on my last. It was a $1500 investment.)
3 : If I go forged I was looking at the H-Beam route. Positive?
4 : I am undecided on rings/bearings as far as brand goes. I've heard a lot of
positive things about Total Seal, and of course ACL. Are these sufficient?
5 : Since I plan on O-ringing the block I am of course going composite HG. Input on this - I've went metal HG in the past and I was always afraid it was going to go for some reason.
6 : For daily driving and a little bit of fun and track use, would 272's be efficient or would you go 264/272?
7 : Should worry about installing a girdle? For instance the Kiggly Main Girdle?
8 : A lot of people are undecided about the valve train direction. For the 450 range, what would be some ideal choices without breaking the bank?
After I cover the engine build and get a price range in mind (I spent way too much on the last one.
) then I'll go into more detail about the vehicle itself. I just want to discuss the future of this poor little stock 6 Bolt and what it will hold for it. I'm looking to do this right, but set my goal on the 450 mark. Going a tab bit over or a little bit under is reasonable, but I'm not looking to shell out $20,000 to build an engine "Just in case I want to go more in the future." I want to build this engine for the exact power range I want and for it to hold it reliably.
So, besides the shell - Here's what's planned.
I have a stock 1G 6 Bolt Longblock with ARPs.
1 : Disassemble engine
2 : Purchase Stroker Components
3 : Take block, crank, rings, bearings, rods, & Pistons to machine shop.
4 : Tank the Block - Bore it - Level it if needed - O-ring it
5 : Install rotating assembly
6 : Build the head - (272's, 3g lifters, Ti Retainers, Non-decided on springs and Valves)
7 : Assemble and perform the 6 Bolt swap.
Now, the big questions are as follows, and based on this fact : I want to enjoy quick spool with the ability to generate moderately good numbers. We are not talking Fuel, Tuning, anything like that. I know exactly where I'm going. I just need to focus on the engine for the moment.
1 : Is .040 overkill or should I even worry about more bore - of course depending on if it needs to be or not.
2 : If I'm stroking and aiming for the 450 range, should I really go aftermarket on the rods/pistons? (I went full eagle on my last. It was a $1500 investment.)
3 : If I go forged I was looking at the H-Beam route. Positive?
4 : I am undecided on rings/bearings as far as brand goes. I've heard a lot of
positive things about Total Seal, and of course ACL. Are these sufficient?
5 : Since I plan on O-ringing the block I am of course going composite HG. Input on this - I've went metal HG in the past and I was always afraid it was going to go for some reason.
6 : For daily driving and a little bit of fun and track use, would 272's be efficient or would you go 264/272?
7 : Should worry about installing a girdle? For instance the Kiggly Main Girdle?
8 : A lot of people are undecided about the valve train direction. For the 450 range, what would be some ideal choices without breaking the bank?
After I cover the engine build and get a price range in mind (I spent way too much on the last one.
) then I'll go into more detail about the vehicle itself. I just want to discuss the future of this poor little stock 6 Bolt and what it will hold for it. I'm looking to do this right, but set my goal on the 450 mark. Going a tab bit over or a little bit under is reasonable, but I'm not looking to shell out $20,000 to build an engine "Just in case I want to go more in the future." I want to build this engine for the exact power range I want and for it to hold it reliably.