Supercharger? [Merged 11-8] NOT electric superchargers

[Defiant]

Save up the $3K, sell the N/T, and buy a TSi.

Now, then. We're not in the Hangout, so Pud Pulling for Profit and Donating for Dollars aren't allowable topics.

If you KNOW about superchargers on DSMs, post away.

--Josef.

 

[xcelr8n]

defiant, is your name josef?

 

[1gE.T.]

I saw an ad in SCC mag, there was an electronic supercharger that was capible of 20psi. It is designed to be used like no2 in short bursts. Kits start at $2995 and fit motors up to 3.5L.

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by xcelr8n
defiant, is your name josef?

No, but Mr. Stalin's was. I sometimes channel him.

 

[nevermore]

I have been looking at Turbo Chargers for my car, and I am worried about the amount of repairs that I will need down the road. I was wondering if a super charger is a safer, and more better route for my 420a.

If anyone has any info on where I can get a very nice supercharger then please let me know.

Or any pictures of supercharger setups. Thanks.

 

[TimG]

Originally posted by nevermore
more better route for my 420a.

Lol. That's cute.

Anyway, no one makes a superchargerkit and no one has a picture of a set-up.

A supercharger is basically a turbocharger, but it uses a pully to turn the intake compresser wheel, not an exhaust turbine.

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by nevermore
I have been looking at Turbo Chargers for my car, and I am worried about the amount of repairs that I will need down the road. I was wondering if a super charger is a safer, and more better route for my 420a.

Out-of-the-box, superchargers are harder on engines than turbochargers. None have been made for DSMs. This one _may_ be adaptable, but it won't be easy.

Although many have done it with success, putting a turbo on an engine not designed for it is problematic.

http://www.boosthead.com/home.php

 

[protetype]

hey guys,

I was wondering if there was a supercharger for my 95 eclipse n\t besides the on from www.boosthead.com. Attach below is a picture of a supercharge on an avenger. I was wonding if anyones where i can get the part circled in red in the pic. thanks

 

[Initial DSM]

That particular car ended up overheating and the guy had to remove it eventually. Try R.I.P.P. Superchargers in L.I. , NY. They might be able to fab one up for your car, with custom mounts. At 6psi boost youre looking at 210 whp with the basic setup, and theres upgrades after that. http://www.rippmods.com/

But you'd prolly have to go with a stand alone fuel management system because your stock sensors most likely will not mount up to the supercharger; theyv'e currently only designed them for the 4 cylinder 3G 4G64 cars as well as the V6 ones.

 

[helliviknow]

has n e one ripped the turbo of a gst and threw a s charger on? i mean damm there already set up for boost so on a gsx if u pull the turbo and throw on a s charger would that like cut out tubo lag and make that thing fly off the line and everywere else? although thats a lot of throwing force feeding parts to buy new ones

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by helliviknow
has n e one ripped the turbo of a gst and threw a s charger on? i mean damm there already set up for boost so on a gsx if u pull the turbo and throw on a s charger would that like cut out tubo lag and make that thing fly off the line and everywere else?

Under most road conditions, a turbocharger is a better solution than a supercharger- once you're up to speed, a turbo is just about transparent, for one thing: very little power to keep it windmilling, and virtually no stress on the motor. For pure race, a supercharger might have some advantages, but why take all the skin off your fingers with a potato peeler to replace it with rubber gloves?

 

[s2000b4idie]

ok paxton maker a universal sport compact supercahrger kit im thinking of doin this has anyone dont his or somthin similar


sAM

 

[Ghost1984]

i know of one guy with a second generation eclipse with a electric supercharger, i think their an ok set up, but turbo is a lot better since its free hp and a supercharger runs off a belt, it would propably cool to have a 1st gen eclipse with a supercharger but i wouldnt do it, im doin the turbo parts conversion on mine, good luck.

 

[Redmachine]

I got this emai lfrom thomas knight....

"We just released a kit for the 95-99 Eclipse 420A motor. It is available two ways--as a complete kit with race-ported Eaton, CNC 6016 T6 aircraft grade aluminum supercharger to lower intake manifold adapters, FMU fuel controller, boost gauge, etc for $3495.
The installation adapter kit is $995, and you could save $1500 or more by finding a 92-95 GM 3800 Series 1 Eaton supercharger, FMU, and boost gauge. You will need some gasket material, bolts, two idler pulleys, an underdrive pulley, and a longer alternator belt. These are popular on ebay, and the Eaton is usually $300, the FMU is $100, the underdrive pulleys are $80, and the gauges are $65 each. The idler pulleys are $30 each. I do offer the adapter for the stock throttle body to bolt to the Eaton, but the GM version throttle body from the 3800 Series 1 engine is HUGE compared to the original unit, and that means more POWER. Try to find one of those as well. I include them in my kit for an extra $100 charge. Here is a pic of the prototype just before completion in a '98 Eclipse with Auto trans, as well as what the Eaton looks like and the CNC adapters (1/2" thick aluminum aircraft-grade)

 

[Redmachine]

and another pic

 

[Redmachine]

SOunds pretty cool a little pricey unless you buy the S?C from ebay or somewhere and just buy the mounting hardware from him.

 

[Mystic511]

Since superchargers work off the power your car already makes and turbochargers work off a powersource that's being expended by your engine anyway, I feel personally that it wouldn't be in your best interest to supercharge a car. Especially since we're four cylinders and you'll be robbing low end torque from yourself to power the supercharger.

It would definately be unique to have a supercharger though. If you're definately gonna do it, keep us updated!

Last two cents: turboing is tried and true, with people who already made all the mistakes and can help you from making the same ones, but supercharging is sort of still uncharted terroritory. you'd be a pioneer.

 

[Ghettoraid]

s/c would be a whole helluva lot simpler and easy to troubleshoot than a turbocharger... turbo you have to worry about keeping everything tightened down from the exhaust-> exhaust turbine... plus you dont need to clog engine bay up with intercooler piping...

plus it LOOKS more stock than a turbocharger.... I think a cop could be fooled... these things are probably carb legal/have EO number...!!

 

[turbo8u]

where you gunna put the injectors? do you keep the lower intake runners? nice idea btw seems to fit in there nicely. you're gunna murder the alternator if you rig that belt up to it, might as well slap on a turbo, its a cakewalk and besides, whats the point of having a good stock flowing intake manifold if you're not going to use it? a turbo with a port and polish, 55-60mm tb match at even 10psi on a 420a is so much fun. how are you gunna cool that boost? theres a reason detonation is known as the hammers of hell, this is all gunna cause you much grief

 

[a5ian5murf]

that's crazy, a supercharger... definitley unique. yeah keep us all updated if possible, or get more information about those pics... looks crazy to me, i see the belt isn't on it yet, and that's a dirty engine bay, but it's all nice because of the supercharger, nice. wow, about 3,400 $ for a complete set up, pricey, still dope. i want to hear that engine!!! anyways, that's cool, keep us updated if anything. peace.

 

[a5ian5murf]

oh yeah one more thing, does a front strut bar still fit in there? ...

 

[earthwonder83]

Maybe its just me, but that supercharger looks like it was just dropped in there. Looks fake.

 

[silvereclipse]

Damn that pulley is so close to the shock tower. It looks like it might not fit in all engine bays since its so close, and engin movement.

 

[OddyseusDSM]

looks like one of those to a nissan or toyota truck/SUV.

 

[Redmachine]

It's a GM 3800 supercharger off of any 89 to 95 truck or car that GM makes. It is bolted on but it looks like it has clearnce issues with the timing cover. He said he'd send more pics when the install was 100%