stock 97 RS eclipse intake and exhaust decision help

[sek_phok]

The fallen F would look nice

 

[DaJackal]

Well thanks for all the advice everyone! I've decided to probably go with the BBP catback exhaust from eBay (and maybe do a full system when my '79 z28 camaro is fixed up), the momo wheels, a cheap cold air intake from eBay (with a K&N filter though) and NOT do the body kit. Then if anything else just get the dents worked out of it and maybe put a wire mesh grill in the front with the Fallen shoes emblem painted in the middle of it. I've come to love the stock look of it so I'll just do a few performance things like a true DSM'r. Thanks for all the help!

Sounds like a good plan. I'd throw in an eBay header as well, mine cost $45+shipping and it does the job very well.
After these mods your car is going to run rather rich in higher rpm range, so a used SAFC/SAFC II ($150ish) might be a good buy to get your AFR fixed and to gain those extra ponies in the top end.

 

[99OZDSM]

I havent chosen a muffler yet so I would actually appreciate some input on a good low throaty muffler to get from the pros?

1995-1999 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE N/T CATBACK EXHAUST RS GS - eBay (item 320676056035 end time Apr-23-11 12:22:42 PDT)

I would recommend an ebay catback exhaust. This one here is only $120 bucks shipped. Installation is only a couple bolts and if they are rusted on like mine were, take some PB Blaster to them. You may want to get some new exhaust hangers too depending on the shape of yours. These ebay exhausts are known to give off a nice low rumble, and if your not satisfied you can always hack off the muffler and weld a new one on. Name brand exhaust will run you $300+ easily and you might as well save up for boost then. Just search on youtube and you'll find many 420a exhausts to listen to. Hope this helps.

 

[rs2nr]

Hi, I'm new to all of this but, I have a stock 97 RS eclipse and am currently looking at getting a cold-air intake and a new exhaust system that isnt crazy expensive but still functions properly and sounds good. Also looking into getting 16 or 17" momo RPM wheels and a VISracing battle z body kit at some point, but I'm more concerned with getting the intake and exhasut for the moment. I would appreciate it if someone could help me decide the best working cold-air intake and best sounding exhaust system. thanks.

Id say keep it as stock as possible, if you want the minor mods that's cool, but I think if you just add the gst GSX high rise spoiler and lower you'll have a cleaner look that'll draw less attention. I also started off with an rs but once I got a hold of a gst I never looked back, so keep your options open.

 

[99OZDSM]

1995-1999 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE N/T CATBACK EXHAUST RS GS - eBay (item 320676056035 end time Apr-23-11 12:22:42 PDT)

I just noticed that the piping for this exhaust is 3 inch. If you decide to go catback, then make sure the piping is 2.5 inches. 3 inch piping will only decrease a NT power and is recommended for turbo cars. Another option would be to use the exhaust from a GST, which will directly bolt on to our NT.

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Id say keep it as stock as possible, if you want the minor mods that's cool, but I think if you just add the gst GSX high rise spoiler and lower you'll have a cleaner look that'll draw less attention. I also started off with an rs but once I got a hold of a gst I never looked back, so keep your options open.

Oh believe me I'd absolutely love a 97-99 GS-T or GSX. But I'm in high school with a minimum wage job with hardly any hours, in the middle of a rebuild ('79 Z28 Camaro its in a bunch of pieces and needs a lot of parts), and I don't wanna go into debt buying my dream car. Not to mention everywhere I look at one its either wrecked, way to modded (retarded body kits, stupid paint jobs, etc.), way to clean to think about getting, or way too far away to go get. I think after my camaro is all put back together I'll save up some money and get a rebuilt 4g63 with a trans. and swap out my 420a, and get the GSX spolier too.

 

[brandonwh64]

Oh believe me I'd absolutely love a 97-99 GS-T or GSX. But I'm in high school with a minimum wage job with hardly any hours, in the middle of a rebuild ('79 Z28 Camaro its in a bunch of pieces and needs a lot of parts), and I don't wanna go into debt buying my dream car. Not to mention everywhere I look at one its either wrecked, way to modded (retarded body kits, stupid paint jobs, etc.), way to clean to think about getting, or way too far away to go get. I think after my camaro is all put back together I'll save up some money and get a rebuilt 4g63 with a trans. and swap out my 420a, and get the GSX spolier too.

Not to be negitive but that swap would be very hard but it is doable if you have the time, money, and skills to fab all your parts and wire up the harness.

My advice is to find a 1G project car like i am doing ATM. I found a 4g63T full engine for 150$ (broken timing belt) and im going from there. Hell if i cannot find a 1G or so to put it in, ive thought about putting it in my uncles 87 ford ranger for fun

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Not to be negitive but that swap would be very hard but it is doable if you have the time, money, and skills to fab all your parts and wire up the harness.

My advice is to find a 1G project car like i am doing ATM. I found a 4g63T full engine for 150$ (broken timing belt) and im going from there. Hell if i cannot find a 1G or so to put it in, ive thought about putting it in my uncles 87 ford ranger for fun

Well i didnt say it'd be easy . But my dad is like a car expert I'm sure if I said to him hey dad I got the 4g63 motor for my eclipse wanna make it it fit? I'm sure hed get it done no problem for me. He had this crazy idea to get a junked 2G DSM like mine and make it rear wheel drive, put a supercharged V8 in it, and make it a drift car. That'd be cool but I love the DSM engines just the way they are.

 

[brandonwh64]

i seen on google they had a 454 Eclipse !!

Yea it can be done, i want a AWD 1G body and build this engine for it.

 

[Shake_Zulla]

Well i didnt say it'd be easy . But my dad is like a car expert I'm sure if I said to him hey dad I got the 4g63 motor for my eclipse wanna make it it fit? I'm sure hed get it done no problem for me. He had this crazy idea to get a junked 2G DSM like mine and make it rear wheel drive, put a supercharged V8 in it, and make it a drift car. That'd be cool but I love the DSM engines just the way they are.

Whatever floats your boat. Anything can be done with enough time and money, however a good 4g63 can be bought for probably a couple grand more than a gs/rs which is why people usually don't bother with the swap. You might have a problem with a V8 drifting 2g because you would be wicked heavy in the front since our cars are light in the back it would be easy to break loose but hard to hook up. Interesting side note I stripped my rs for autocross and found that I now cant jack the car from the side without lifting both the front and back tires... pita.

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Does anyone know about how much it would cost me to do the swap? (Include labor, cost of new motor, anything else I would need)

 

[phunny]

If you get a cold air intake, get the bypass valve. It took one good rain storm for me to snap my #4 rod due to water.

 

[Shake_Zulla]

Does anyone know about how much it would cost me to do the swap? (Include labor, cost of new motor, anything else I would need)

A lot just search 420a 4g63 swap and you will see. Every person that owns a 420a talks about putting a turbo on it and then a lot of the 4g63 guys give them a hard time and then they talk about swapping a 4g63. You really have two basic options, keep it stock and buy a 4g63 or turbo your 420A. Everyone on this forum love to see custom stuff and new ideas but you need to crawl before you can walk. Just keep reading untill you think you know it all and then read some more.

Edit to do the swap you would need more than the motor. Just a few things I can think of is...
Long block
Intake manifold
Exhaust manifold to cat
ecu
wiring harness
power steering pump
AC pump to condenser
alternator
fuse box
all the turbo parts
transmission
axles
all the sensors
radiator
coolant overflow tank
throttle body
just to name a few items

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Alright I bought a BBP catback exhaust, and a cold air intake from chrome intakes (both eBay brands but their products are actually really good!) I also bought some e3 spark plugs. I put them all on Tuesday night and the car sounds freaking awesome now. You guys were right, eBay is definitely the way to go. Thanks for all your help guys!

 

[brandonwh64]

Also if you want to do the swap then read this thread. it will help you figure out what you will need to cut out of the GSX/GST body you find to make the engine fit right.

4G63 swapped into a 420a Chassis. I need advice. - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Also if you want to do the swap then read this thread. it will help you figure out what you will need to cut out of the GSX/GST body you find to make the engine fit right.

4G63 swapped into a 420a Chassis. I need advice. - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com

Oh I've decided its a real dumb idea. My dad still wants to do it since everyone says its such a challenge. I'm gonna either rebuild my 420a or buy a crate motor that is a little better than stock and turbo it. I still am gonna buy some wheels and stuff before I do that though, turboing the car will be the last thing I do. That way when I've done that, I'm all done with it.

 

[brandonwh64]

Oh I've decided its a real dumb idea. My dad still wants to do it since everyone says its such a challenge. I'm gonna either rebuild my 420a or buy a crate motor that is a little better than stock and turbo it. I still am gonna buy some wheels and stuff before I do that though, turboing the car will be the last thing I do. That way when I've done that, I'm all done with it.

You would at least need a donor car with full wiring and such. In the end, its not worth it.

I know around here they were some 1Gs from 1200-2000$ in decent condition. I would look into that if i was you.

 

[Shake_Zulla]

Also if you want to do the swap then read this thread. it will help you figure out what you will need to cut out of the GSX/GST body you find to make the engine fit right.

4G63 swapped into a 420a Chassis. I need advice. - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com

This is a good read and a must if anyone even TALKS about a 4g swap, cudos my friend.

Oh I've decided its a real dumb idea. My dad still wants to do it since everyone says its such a challenge. I'm gonna either rebuild my 420a or buy a crate motor that is a little better than stock and turbo it. I still am gonna buy some wheels and stuff before I do that though, turboing the car will be the last thing I do. That way when I've done that, I'm all done with it.

If you want a challenge why not do a 2.4L swap? At least you wouldn't risk ruining frames or half assing some motor mounts and you would save some money not buying a crate motor.

 

[TheFallenJosh]

This is a good read and a must if anyone even TALKS about a 4g swap, cudos my friend.



If you want a challenge why not do a 2.4L swap? At least you wouldn't risk ruining frames or half assing some motor mounts and you would save some money not buying a crate motor.

Couldn't I just stroke my 2.0 and get the 2.4 that way? Sounds a heck of a lot easier.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Like said before ebay would be thhe cheapest bet for intake and exhaust..

 

[dalesmitsu]

Does anyone know about how much it would cost me to do the swap? (Include labor, cost of new motor, anything else I would need)

There's a video on youtube with steps doing the swap. The owner instal the 4g63 in a silver 2g nt.

I would go with a short ram, seen different results between the two on 2gnt.com.

You can find the AEM v2 on ebay brand new at a decent price, same for headers and cat-back. But there's a caution sometimes they don't fit right, keep this is mind.

This is a smudge of hp, you need few more little things to free up air.

 

[brandonwh64]

There's a video on youtube with steps doing the swap. The owner instal the 4g63 in a silver 2g nt.

I would go with a short ram, seen different results between the two on 2gnt.com.

You can find the AEM v2 on ebay brand new at a decent price, same for headers and cat-back. But there's a caution sometimes they don't fit right, keep this is mind.

This is a smudge of hp, you need few more little things to free up air.

Please post this video

 

[randypogue]

well im geting a new intake wednesday. its buy chromeintakes for 24.50 it aint a bad intake kit for the price.

 

[Locke]

Couldn't I just stroke my 2.0 and get the 2.4 that way? Sounds a heck of a lot easier.

No, the 2.0 will only stroke to 2.2L. The 2.4 uses a different block.

 

[TheFallenJosh]

Well me and dad keep changing our minds on what to do to the motor, but I think we're gonna supercharge it. I've never seen a supercharged eclipse and I think it'd be pretty cool to see one. Well I bought a header and a downpipe the other day, just waiting for them to be shipped. And I put the mesh grill in the front. Just time for some wheels and I think I'll be done with it until I'm finished with the Camaro.