Starter Relay / Starter failure in 98GST Auto Please Help

[mikejsmith1985]

hi guys I searched and couldn't find much about bypassing the relay specific to the Auto cars. My understanding is that the auto relay has 5 pins while the manual has 4. So if someone could tell me how to do that I would greatly appreciate it! Below is what happened yesterday to lead me to believe this is my issue let me know what you guys think.

I replaced the starter about 2 months ago and out of nowhere I get in my car after work to start it and nothing! I assume because I have power to my lights radio etc. That my battery connections must have come loose. I snug them up real good and still the same situation. I had someone lightly tap the starter silenoid again no change. Because of how recently the starter was changed I believe it's more likely the relay went out.

when I try to start the car it does make sort of buzz but not the clicking of a starter that you would expect.

That's everything I know as of now.
Thanks to all who may be able to help!

 

[AjWit]

You better hope that buzzing sound isnt your crank pulley just spinning in place on the timing belt. My car did this and i had to do a full re-build. Hopefully yours isnt this bad.

 

[luv2rallye]

At the starter relay jumper the black-red wire to the black-yellow. Make sure you have +12V on the black-red when ignition switch is in Start position or you have some other problem.
A buzz in the Start postion is usually the starter solenoid (not relay although in rare cases it may be a defective relay) not getting enough voltage when loaded due to weak battery or poor connections. If the buzz only lasts a couple seconds when in the ON position it's probably the IAC doing a recalibrate which is normal.

 

[mikejsmith1985]

At the starter relay jumper the black-red wire to the black-yellow. Make sure you have +12V on the black-red when ignition switch is in Start position or you have some other problem.
A buzz in the Start postion is usually the starter solenoid (not relay although in rare cases it may be a defective relay) not getting enough voltage when loaded due to weak battery or poor connections. If the buzz only lasts a couple seconds when in the ON position it's probably the IAC doing a recalibrate which is normal.

Thanks man! Looks like it is a bad starter solenoid I'll know for sure in a couple hrs

So a flywheel bolt backed itself out and got lodged in the starter. Fly wheel is ok though. New starter in hand headed to get new flywheel bolts and some loctite and should be driving in a few hours

 

[luv2rallye]

With the starter only 2 months old I wouldn't suspect it just yet (although they sell junk half the time). It sounds more like a weak battery to me (or bad battery cable connections to starter and ground in which case you need to remove and clean both ends of both cables). With the starter needing 100A, a weak battery could easily power the radio and other stuff but not the starter. Measure the voltage on the battery WHILE cranking. If less than 9.6V your battery is most likely the problem (or the alt is not charging the battery which is why it's now weak).