Starion [Merged 9-7]

[Leggo76]

I am trying to figure out if there is any part of this website that will help me tune my 1988 Starion 2.6T. If anyone knows where I can look please let me know. Or if there isn't to much on this site can someone point me in the right direction.
Thanks.

 

[oldman]

I would love to have one of those.

 

[94Jettameowpsst]

Im not bench racing by any means, i have NO experience with those cars at all..... i thought it was a 1.8 or a 2.0 sohc in the pic, didnt knwo it was a 2.6. The question i should have asked is can it be used as a reliable dd or is it as if not more tempermental than a dsm. I guess the thing has 15k miles on the motor, a new tranny, 18g turbo, and other little misc stuff. I dotn wanna trade my talon for something that is much slower considering i run mid 12's at the moment on pump

 

[AWDGreenMachine]

The StarQuest has huge potential but is limited by its primitive throttle body fuel injection. I have had two 'Quests. My second is an '88, and is sitting in my driveway. My setup includes stock TBI, 3" tb exhaust, 284 cam, hard IC and intake pipes, SAFCII, 1g mas, and a 20G turbo @ 17psi. Can you say fast?! I was running two secondary injectors but, I couldn't take enough fuel out with the afc to get it to run right. I probably would've been able to if I really hacked the mas. As far as reliability goes, the DSM is a bit more reliable...and easier to mod. I'm currently parting my Starquest out as we speak though.

 

[94Jettameowpsst]

Holy makin me not wanna trade. Hermm, this may be a tough desicion. I like my talon but gettin sideways is always fun 2 more questions tho. I know the 4g63 is swappable, but i cant even find any sites w/ pics of it done. Lastly, whats this about the tb injection? Is it sorta like cis in an older vw or are there actual inectors?

 

[AWDGreenMachine]

Yes, there are actual injectors, 2 of them. 87-89 Starquests use 550(?) primaries and 1080(?) secondaries. I can't remember exactly what the injector sizes are but that's pretty close. Oh yeah, you can definitely get sideways in those puppys too. Umm, check out Buschur Racing for some pics of the 4g63 in a StarQuest.

 

[AWDGreenMachine]

Idk if this is the right place, but is the turbo starion fast? i mean can someone relate it or compare it to a talon?

BTW, all Starions/Conquests are turbocharged.

 

[speedy13]

Lots of valuable info here.

http://www.starquestclub.com/forums/home.php

I love the starions,but i wouldn't trade my dsm for one dough.

 

[dave99gst]

my nephew just had 1 -- he sold it within a few months because it was piss slow.
he was pretty disappointed. Unless you want to 4g63 swap one.. id keep the dsm.

 

[AWDGreenMachine]

Your nephew must not have had any mods done to his. They take to mods pretty well. Alot of guys are ditching the stock F.I. and going with a multi port injection. There are companies that manufacture these for the StarQuest for a couple grand. Some build their own M.P.I. setup for alot less money. There's even a dual cam head setup floating around somewhere.
Hey, you ever hear of Sakura ?

 

[xveganxcowboyx]

Multiport is the way to go on those. I thought I'd read of people doing it for around $1,000, but it's been a while since I spent any time thinking about StarQuests.

They can be fast, but they need work. They are great for toque though. While I had the common injector problem with mine (limiting me to 3,000 rpm) I could still do donuts all day. I guess that's what you get when you turbo a truck engine.

I'm a fan, but I don't know if I would trade a good DSM for one. They are more "muscle" if you're into that. They are also less common and can look amazing if done right. And of course RWD does have a MUCH better feel. Especially with 9 inch tires on the back.

Things to remember/look for. The injectors in them like to go out. Sometimes it's the injector itself, sometimes it;s just the injector clip. It;s always annoying. Also, they have issues with the oil pump. If something about tightening something periodically or it will drop oil pressure. I lost mine to the problem with barely 70,000 miles on it.

 

[SuperStario]

My Starion

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193256

 

[GSXlaunch]

My old 89...

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I had to sell it about two years ago. If you are already running mid 12's you will be taking a few steps back with the 2.6. It can be quick on the highway and if it has the adjustable suspension it can handle just as well as my gsx (in dry weather). The potential of the 4G63 far outweighs that of the G54B. They can be quick but it will cost you a lot of money ... MPI, built block, tranny etc... if you are going on looks, the Star-Quest wins by a long shot. It'll turn a lot of heads. JMO. The TBI sucks and they are notorious for no. 3 piston/rodd failure due the poorly engineered intake manny. For an occasionally driven non-track car, they are perfect.

 

[SuperStario]

A few shots of my 6-bolt swap not sure where to put these feel free to enjoy or flame i

posted in the wrong section last time

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[spendone]

YES! Duct tape! Gotta love teh duct tape.

 

[gsxitement]

whats involved with that swap. i've been interested in doing it for a while, and now that my 2g is pretty much done i think it's time to do it. what has to happen with the water lines and all. are the mounts available? if so through who? what about the tranny. i've heard that you can use the starion 5speed with the '64. is that true? please let me know, i'm very interested in doing this swap. thanks

 

[Bostedquest]

too late, I already had a '63 in a 89 TSi back last winter.
I had a guy interested in the car, then backed out, and I was tired of blowing trannies like crazy if I went over 10 PSi.
Pulled the engine, sold the shell bought a DSm to swap engine into. Afterall, the engine can go to near 500 HP, so why the hell would I need to keep it under 300 just for a crappy ass RWD tranny?
I was happy to get rid of the quest earlier this summer.

 

[Bostedquest]

whats involved with that swap. i've been interested in doing it for a while, and now that my 2g is pretty much done i think it's time to do it. what has to happen with the water lines and all. are the mounts available? if so through who? what about the tranny. i've heard that you can use the starion 5speed with the '64. is that true? please let me know, i'm very interested in doing this swap. thanks

Yes if you get a wide '63 your fine to use the quest trans.
I already built the engine, so I was stuck with the shitty ass D50 with gut swap and Is till popped them like no tomarrow. 3 in 6 months. I just got sick of it.

The water lines, I did a few different things, I custom made an outlet, that went to a hard pipe to the rad. The upper I used a upper f body hose.

The mounts to use are 2 left hand quest mounts with plates that you can do many different things with.

Personally, I did not think it was worth the trouble. But I am sure if I had used a wide bolt '63 I would have been much happier.

 

[SuperStario]

too late, I already had a '63 in a 89 TSi back last winter.
I had a guy interested in the car, then backed out, and I was tired of blowing trannies like crazy if I went over 10 PSi.
Pulled the engine, sold the shell bought a DSm to swap engine into. Afterall, the engine can go to near 500 HP, so why the hell would I need to keep it under 300 just for a crappy ass RWD tranny?
I was happy to get rid of the quest earlier this summer.

Everyone PLEASE disregard this guys tranny intemidation !!!

Too bad you didnt think of this:
Mazda B2600 bellhousing with Turbo Rx-7 gear box bolts right up

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We dont even have to talk about the strenth of a Turbo Rx-7 tranny

 

[Defiant]

I still remember when those all-square dashes looked so damned modern.

Now they just look dumb.

Star/Quests were hot stuff in their day, but they just didn't get much market penetration. Everyone was still Z-struck.

 

[GSXlaunch]

Everyone is intitled to their own opinion. I think the interior of the quest dash, seats everything looks a lot better then my 1G as well as the 2G I use to have.

Same things goes for white rims on white cars...IMO, that is just gayriffic.

 

[Bostedquest]

Everyone PLEASE disregard this guys tranny intemidation !!!

Too bad you didnt think of this:
Mazda B2600 bellhousing with Turbo Rx-7 gear box bolts right up

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We dont even have to talk about the strenth of a Turbo Rx-7 tranny

well then this came out after I did my swap...
but a D50, or even a D50 with starion gut swap handles nothing in terms of power...

 

[gsxitement]

please elaborate on "wide bolt '63". what year cars do these come in? whats the measurement to determine if it's a wide bolt or not? please keep the info coming. i need to find out as much as possible.

 

[SuperStario]

well then this came out after I did my swap...
but a D50, or even a D50 with starion gut swap handles nothing in terms of power...

That was made VERY clear to me when I stared the project


Do you have any pics of your starion swap

 

[SuperStario]

please elaborate on "wide bolt '63". what year cars do these come in? whats the measurement to determine if it's a wide bolt or not? please keep the info coming. i need to find out as much as possible.

4g63's with "wide bolt" patterns where made for RWD applications they have blocks made for RWD trannys

 

[gsxitement]

i understand.....but what width am i looking for. i have several blocks laying around the house, and if i had a measurement to go off of that would help.