SRB 2g20g

[my98GST]

Just curious as to how many of you guys are running this turbo...Or ran this turbo

 

[blcknspo0ln]

You should either to a search on it or call SBR directly. I believe the 2g20g is a basic MHI 20g with an "airResearch" compressor cover that is similar to the MHI version, but with an elbow casted in with it. Basically looks similar to the t25 design.

 

[my98GST]

Yeah but I was pretty much just looking for general input of people who have had htis turbo. I've heard some good stuff about it but then again I've heard some really bad things about it.. Just wondering what I'm getting myself into before I install it.

 

[Stapl3]

I've used this turbo and it's complete garbage. I cannot stress strongly enough to run far, far away from it.

 

[my98GST]

Okay, Okay...I just read a few threads on Talk. My question is, since the comp. housing leaks like a champ, coudln't I just put a 20g comp. housing on it and vilia its fixed?????

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Okay, Okay...I just read a few threads on Talk. My question is, since the comp. housing leaks like a champ, coudln't I just put a 20g comp. housing on it and vilia its fixed?????

the cost of you doing this (unless you get an amazing deal somewhere) will probably end up in the ballpark of just buying a 20g straight up.

 

[my98GST]

Do 20g compressor housings really cost that much?? Just the housing, not the whole complete housing including exhaust and center sections...

 

[Stapl3]

You're getting ahead of yourself. It's a matter of there being a seal or not. Mine and many others didn't have one. Any boost made was pushed out the compressor housing and not into the engine. The car would drive fine crusing and idling, but when you wanted some go, the car was slower than the t25.

Cap off the compressor outlet and put a boost leak tester on the compressor inlet. See what you got.

As far as using it on your personal car, well, be careful.

 

[my98GST]

See heres the deal, the turbo is at FP getting rebuilt. Could the 20g housing not seat on it and seal it fine? I'm sure they could fab something up though correct?

 

[my98GST]

I installed it on my car when I first got it... its a td06h wheel and i went with the SBR ss oil feed and used a td06h banjo on the 14b/16g line... I noticed that while i was driving it, the turbo sounded fine for roughly a mile and then it started whining like a supercharger and then I got on it and it made great boost, shot up and nailed 18 and settled to 17 super super super quick and it pulled like a CHAMP!! But i noticed that when I got on it, there was blue/gray smoke everywhere and so I pieced it together. Whine + Smoke = Blown seals.

So I pulled it back off the car and sent it off to FP....

 

[Stapl3]

Atleast you sent it to the correct place.

 

[my98GST]

Yeah, well.... Would the 20g Housing seal the leaks? Or would I still need some sort of gasket?

 

[99gst_racer]

I've used this turbo and it's complete garbage. I cannot stress strongly enough to run far, far away from it.

Details please. I am curious to know what happened to your turbo (not your buying experience).

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

You're getting ahead of yourself. It's a matter of there being a seal or not. Mine and many others didn't have one.

Waitaminute. My AGP/Turbonetics turbo didn't have one, I hear most Garrett's don't, etc. I don't see this as a SBR 20G problem, I see it as a "you should've known better" problem. You can't say the turbo is garbage if you didn't realize you needed to RTV it. Granted, no turbo should come like this, but you have to work with what you've got.

 

[my98GST]

I just recieved an email from SBR...

Justin,

A standard 20g cover won't work with the back plate on the 2g20g. Pressure
test the turbo on the car before you jump to conclusions, the two problems we
had with the covers leaking were from customers removing the cover and not
replacing the seal between it and the backplate.

Nate
SBR

 

[Stapl3]

I see it as a "you should've known better" problem. You can't say the turbo is garbage if you didn't realize you needed to RTV it. Granted, no turbo should come like this, but you have to work with what you've got.

You have got to be kidding me. This is hands down the most ridiculous post I have read on this forum.

Work with what I got? It was brand fcuking new. I shouldn't have to open it up and RTV it. Get a clue.

 

[Stapl3]

the two problems we
had with the covers leaking were from customers removing the cover and not
replacing the seal between it and the backplate.

Nate
SBR

It is well documented on dsmtalk in a multiple page thread there was no seal to begin with. These were leaking before being touched and only opened to try to fix it.

 

[Stapl3]

Details please. I am curious to know what happened to your turbo (not your buying experience).

It's summed up pretty much in post #8.

 

[99gst_racer]

It's summed up pretty much in post #8.

That's it? You had a leaky compressor cover, and you consider the entire turbocharger to be crap?

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

You have got to be kidding me. This is hands down the most ridiculous post I have read on this forum.

Work with what I got? It was brand fcuking new. I shouldn't have to open it up and RTV it. Get a clue.

My Turbonetics, my friend's PTE, and my other friend's Garrett were all "brand ####ing new" and not one had a seal.

Tough shit, man. Whether or not you "should have to" isn't the case. If it doesn't come with a seal, seal it yourself, or sell your car and sit in the corner because not everything goes your way.

 

[Stapl3]

Don't be a SBR nutswinger and come in this thread with your BS. Call up FP and ask them if their turbos should be RTV'd before install. Somehow I doubt it.

My Turbonetics, my friend's PTE, and my other friend's Garrett were all "brand ####ing new" and not one had a seal.

"Well SBR wants me to send it back to them again. They assure me that the so-called Garret composite seal is supposed to be there and its the only way to seal these (although it wasnt there the first time). They also claim that more then 60% of these are fine with no gasket because of the machined surface edge but during the "rebuilding phase" the arret sealers is needed. I tried to explain that this is not in a rebuilding phase its brand new but they offered no other option. I called Turbochargers and talked with Tommy and he told me that composite seal is not the way to fix this and they are giving me a bunch of BS."

Taken from dsmtalk in a 2g20g thread.

Tough shit, man. Whether or not you "should have to" isn't the case. If it doesn't come with a seal, seal it yourself, or sell your car and sit in the corner because not everything goes your way.

Whether or not I should have to or not is entirely the case. Why should I have to take my brand new turbocharger out of the box and take it apart to RTV it? That's insane. I shouldn't have to do anything to it. I paid over 1000 dollars for a brand new unit and it should perform flawlessly. It's my fault I didn't take the wastegate actuator and compressor housing off it and RTV it before using? That's like buying a brand new car and pulling the motor to replace the main seal before driving it off the lot.

 

[Stapl3]

That's it? You had a leaky compressor cover, and you consider the entire turbocharger to be crap?

A turbocharger with a leaky compressor cover is crap.

 

[Slowboy]

Don't be a SBR nutswinger and come in this thread with your BS. Call up FP and ask them if their turbos should be RTV'd before install. Somehow I doubt it.

If your "B" cover or "E" cover leaks, it is not unheard of to use some type of thin layer of sealant to stop the leaking. 90% of these cover do not come with a seal between the backplate and the compressor cover, as they rely on a flat machined surface to seal them.

"Well SBR wants me to send it back to them again. They assure me that the so-called Garret composite seal is supposed to be there and its the only way to seal these (although it wasnt there the first time). They also claim that more then 60% of these are fine with no gasket because of the machined surface edge but during the "rebuilding phase" the arret sealers is needed. I tried to explain that this is not in a rebuilding phase its brand new but they offered no other option. I called Turbochargers and talked with Tommy and he told me that composite seal is not the way to fix this and they are giving me a bunch of BS."

That is funny, these are the guys who built your turbo.

Whether or not I should have to or not is entirely the case. Why should I have to take my brand new turbocharger out of the box and take it apart to RTV it? That's insane. I shouldn't have to do anything to it. I paid over 1000 dollars for a brand new unit and it should perform flawlessly. It's my fault I didn't take the wastegate actuator and compressor housing off it and RTV it before using? That's like buying a brand new car and pulling the motor to replace the main seal before driving it off the lot.

If the turbo does not come with a seal, it does not come with a seal. If you would like to argue it some more (2 yrs later, or is it coming up on 3 now?) maybe you should call the guys who built it at T.com. We stopped selling this turbo years and years ago.

A turbocharger with a leaky compressor cover is crap.

So are whiney people, but there are a lot of them out there.

Mike Huml

 

[99gst_racer]

A turbocharger with a leaky compressor cover is crap.

A turbocharger with a leaky compressor cover is an easy fix.

My Garrett 50-trim didn't come with a compressor cover seal, nor did my buddy's Turbonetics 50-trim. Either way, a $3 tube of Permatex is hardly a good reason to shed tears over.

 

[Stapl3]

That is funny, these are the guys who built your turbo.

If the turbo does not come with a seal, it does not come with a seal. If you would like to argue it some more (2 yrs later, or is it coming up on 3 now?) maybe you should call the guys who built it at T.com. We stopped selling this turbo years and years ago.

"This is funny. Tommy at turbochargers took one look at the pics and said the turbo wasn't theirs. This is after SBR orignally blamed Turbochargers for me not having it for two months when I ordered it. SBR told me they sent it back twice to turbochargers to get it clipped like I wanted it and both times it came back not clipped. So I received a non-clipped turbo but after 2 months was happy I saw it at all."

This is from the 2g20g thread on dsmtalk.


I'm not dealing with T.com. If I wanted to deal with them, I would have bought from them.