Smoked a supercharged focus yesterday.

[tbonitz301]

Well my friend got his svt focus supercharged by powerworks, and came over to race on an old airstrip owned by a friend now. Well he dynoed 258whp. ive never dynoed my car. Honestly i thought i was gonna get smoked. Well we raced, and i pulled on him the whole way. Ended up about 3/4 car ahead of him. I'm happy. Keep in mind im still on the t-2small, but am installing my 16g thursday.. The thing that boggles me is i didnt think the t-25 could support the power to chop down that focus, but it did. Could someone shed some light on this. I was running c16 at 18psi beating the hell out of the t-25.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

I know we've laxed on the rules, but street racing is still not allowed on this forum.

 

[crimsondragon]

1. It's a Ford.
2. It's a Focus.

 

[99RedGs]

1. It's a Ford.
2. It's a Focus.

258whp is 258whp doesn't matter what make, model, year, or color the car is.

Does an airstrip count a street racing now? The only reason street racing isn't allowed is because its illegal and unsafe. Racing on someone's airstrip is like racing down your driveway .

Just because he may have more power doesn't mean he is a good driver. Maybe you are better behind the wheel then him which makes up the difference. Or maybe you are out powering him who knows.

 

[laserspeeddemon]

I don't think this qualifies as street racing it was a privately owned airstrip. In Germany, the US Forces loaned out an old, no-longer used air strip at Bitburg, since they built and now operate on Spangdeignm(sp?).

There could be a few reasons you beat that Ford. You could have him on torque, or shorter gearing, driver error, etc.

 

[Spoolio]

Yes it can be a form of "Street Racing" Hence the fact they are racing in a private sector yes. But its not safe nor practical, I would not condone nor think it is perfectly fine if I had a 1/4 mile stretch of road in my backyard (fenced in and all) to start racing cars down it at 100+ MPH

and I cannot stress this more, the safety factor just blows itself out of the roof, what happens if you guys wrecked into each other, the "owner" does not have insurance coverage to let you guys race, there would be all sorts of lawsuits. Second who knows who really wins, does he have a Tree? record of any kind of times?


So yes this can get thrown into the vault as "Street Racing"


The facts that I have just mention all fall into the same reason of being what is called "Street Racing", Does not have to take place on a street.

 

[braceyoself777]

Yes it can be a form of "Street Racing" Hence the fact they are racing in a private sector yes. But its not safe nor practical, I would not condone nor think it is perfectly fine if I had a 1/4 mile stretch of road in my backyard (fenced in and all) to start racing cars down it at 100+ MPH

and I cannot stress this more, the safety factor just blows itself out of the roof, what happens if you guys wrecked into each other, the "owner" does not have insurance coverage to let you guys race, there would be all sorts of lawsuits. Second who knows who really wins, does he have a Tree? record of any kind of times?


So yes this can get thrown into the vault as "Street Racing"


The facts that I have just mention all fall into the same reason of being what is called "Street Racing", Does not have to take place on a street.

+1

 

[rEclipserGST]

You keep saying "safety". How is it "safe" to race anywhere? And if its not on the "street" its not "street racing". What would you classify strip racing? Getting time slips and such...

 

[99RedGs]

So when all of those videos were posted about the EVO hitting doing 180 mph and spinning out on an airstrip, and the one hitting a seagull were street racing?. Funny no one commented on them as street racing. Its not. Insurance doesn't automatically make it not street racing.

Definition: Street racing is a form of auto racing that takes place on public roads, either during normal traffic or during empty hours of traffic, often within the industrial areas of cities. It is illegal, as such driving is prohibited by many traffic regulations.

In some states it is defined as driving 30 mph above the posted speed limit.

So no it isn't a "form" of street racing. Otherwise going to a private drag strip would be a "form" of street racing.

In any case nice kill on a 258 whp car.

 

[erald01]

Enough of this whole street racing crap. RACING is RACING no matter what, going fast is never safe PERIOD. Anyways good job on spanking the focus though, i know a few guys from my are that have the SVT's and they think they own the road . Its FORD what do you expect...

 

[LandoAWD]

We will NOT debate street racing in this thread.

The suggestive emoticon indicates the use of "airstrip" might be in kind with the use of "Mexico" when referring to where a race on the streets took place. This is often to bypass forum rules.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as the thread was not closed when I got here, but save the rhetoric and justifications to yourselves. Our rules are not open for debate and each post is subject to being read and interpreted as WE see it.

Thanks,
Mgmt

 

[Car_guy_09]

So when all of those videos were posted about the EVO hitting doing 180 mph and spinning out on an airstrip, and the one hitting a seagull were street racing?. Funny no one commented on them as street racing. Its not. Insurance doesn't automatically make it not street racing.

Definition: Street racing is a form of auto racing that takes place on public roads, either during normal traffic or during empty hours of traffic, often within the industrial areas of cities. It is illegal, as such driving is prohibited by many traffic regulations.

In some states it is defined as driving 30 mph above the posted speed limit.

So no it isn't a "form" of street racing. Otherwise going to a private drag strip would be a "form" of street racing.

In any case nice kill on a 258 whp car.

What he said^^

Edit: Sorry LandoAWD your post wasent there when i posted

 

[LandoAWD]

It took you 6 minutes to type that? Fair enough.

 

[Car_guy_09]

It took you 6 minutes to type that? Fair enough.

Nooo....., I just had the widow open for awhile then posted

 

[Red97Eclipseboy]

You know, that is strange that you won. By that, what I mean is, back when I was on my T25 some years ago, I beat cars that in no way in hell I should have.

In this race, I'm sure you out-drove him. He could have been spinning majority of the time.

 

[fwdmaster]

Nice kill

 

[turbodsmawd420]

I won't touch up on the whole street racing debate, and just say nice kill.

 

[Spoolio]

This whole thread is turning into Honda forum. Lets stop the street racing talk now please.. its making me feel ricey.

 

[Spoolio]

Ok, yes a drag strip is much safer then racing on the streets. First of all most sanctioned drag strips require a helmet at any trap speed, and at a certain time they require roll cages, parachutes, protective (fire preventive) clothing, and other safety regulations and precautions, also yes racing at a drag strip will reduce chances and prevent dangerous situations, at any track I have seen, is there not guard walls on both sides of the track incase a car gets out of control it does not go flying to the side and hit a bunch of onlookers standing 5 ft away from an 80 mph car? will the nhra or ihra let you race with a broken car that can potentially break pieces off and fly into the audience? Is there a full staffed rescue squad that is watching every time a car goes down the track? Is there not an official that keeps on eye on the track and its surrounds for debris that is on or can potentially go onto the track causing an accident? I'm am not saying any type of racing is "SAFE" but racing you're car at an actual track will reduces you're chances or getting into an accident, injured, and possibly killed.


1 more thing, when you are doing 100 mph down a side street and something happens and you need serious medical attention, and everyone is fleeing the scene cause they don't want to be seen at all when the police show up, and in those 5 min you're life could have been saved, but all the people cheering you on, on the side of the street to win, is now running to save their own life to get out of a little ticket.

 

[CHEVYTECH21]

nice job killing that focus power is power and if he cant drive then that is his problem not yours. look at the money he spent on the car and mods. you put that much money into your it would have been way diffrent! racing down a private airstrip is legal with permission. no cop in the world could do anything if your friend says its ok.

 

[crimsondragon]

258whp is 258whp doesn't matter what make, model, year, or color the car is.

That's almost bench racing. To compare which car is faster through whp is redundant.

 

[99RedGs]

How is it bench racing? The focus dyno'd 258 whp so unless the race was on a bench I don't see where you are coming from. They did an actual race and he won. That is not hypothetical it was an event that happened.

No one compared through whp. I said 258 whp is 258 whp.. how is that wrong? Obviously it depends which dyno you are on but what the graph says is what the graph says. 258 in a focus should move it along fairly well, 258 in a Cadillac would be a fail.

This thread is ripe with arguments for how simple it was

 

[blcknspo0ln]

And you wonder why we don't allow such threads on our forums? It all ends up the same way.

 

[costas14]

the svt focus aint bad, and with the supercharger it would lose, my dad has a 2000 zx3 ford focus, when we put the ford supercharger on it, it only gained another 60hp around, was at about 200hp, didnt do bad, but when we put the aluminium ford racing head, cams, shafts, and the bigger valves that let it open to about 9k, the car dynos at almost 300, it can outrun lots of civics with swaps around here or turbos, and many eclipses in the area, the svt focus u prob raced wasnt fully built, engine wise, and i do think they have turbo kits for the focus

 

[98DropTop]

my buddy has a supercharged focus from powerworks as well, also the whole engine redun... its looks not too bad i guess.... pulls hard.... ran very low 12's... Too bad its been sitting in the driveway for who knows how long and hasnt moved... .. hes getting a new engine in it this summer... something that wont break hopefully for the 3rd time,