Sleeper Style exhuast for 420a

[dsm-jdm]

anyone know of one...I fell in love with RSR exhausts..but unfortunately they're only for 4g63Ts.....And if by any case there aren't any.....is there a possibility of there atleast being sleeper style mufflers??? Any input is well apreciated...


Thanks....Nick

 

[big green]

It does not matter if its for the 4g63's . If the exhaust fits a 2g GS-T then it will fit your RS/GS. Its the AWD one you can't use

 

[dsm-jdm]

Are you sure?? I thought the 420a and 4g63 exhuasts were different..If not then why do some companies advertise an exhuast for a Turbo & then that same exhaust for a non turbo???

If its the same fit then even better for me.....I just wanna make sure....Are you sure (sincere question)??????

 

[flrseclipse17]

usually the only difference between a gs-t and rs/gs exhaust is the diameter of the piping. anyone can correct me if i am wrong but i believe thats the only difference.

Originally posted by dsm-jdm
Are you sure?? I thought the 420a and 4g63 exhuasts were different..If not then why do some companies advertise an exhuast for a Turbo & then that same exhaust for a non turbo???

If its the same fit then even better for me.....I just wanna make sure....Are you sure (sincere question)??????

 

[soulreclipse]

when getting an upgarded exhaust..n/t only means 2.5" and turbo only means 3"..hope this helps

 

[dsm-jdm]

Yeah thanks...that has helped alot.....Pretty sweet knowing i can get a RSR Exhaust system for my car

 

[ughhhead]

yes a gs-t exhaust will fit a NT, HOWEVER, you had darn well better be HEAVILY modded. that big of an exhaust on a NT would drasticly reduce power all through the power band. that is just too big. so consider that before you go and buy a gs-t exhaust. good luck.

 

[Doug99RS]

If you don't want to spend as much money you can buy a stock gst muffler and run it. It's quiet, flows more than the stock non-turbo muffler, yet won't rid you of back-pressure.
Doug

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by Doug99RS
If you don't want to spend as much money you can buy a stock gst muffler and run it. It's quiet, flows more than the stock non-turbo muffler, yet won't rid you of back-pressure.
Doug

Couldn't have said it better myself

Originally posted by soulreclipse
when getting an upgarded exhaust..n/t only means 2.5" and turbo only means 3"..hope this helps

Umm..they make exhauts for turbo models in 2.5" also. So, just because it is smaller than 3", it does not neccessarily mean it cannot be used for the turbo models.

 

[jadamc]

Originally posted by flrseclipse17
usually the only difference between a gs-t and rs/gs exhaust is the diameter of the piping. anyone can correct me if i am wrong but i believe thats the only difference.

I believe the piping is the same, the only difference is the muffler (2g's).

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by jadamc
I believe the piping is the same, the only difference is the muffler (2g's).

Acutally, its both piping and muffler (assuming you're talking about the stock exhaust).

N/T piping-2.0-.25"(?) Single Tip muffler

T piping-2.5" Dual Tip muffler

Im not absolutely positive about the size of the pipings, but Im pretty sure Im close if not on the mark.

 

[jadamc]

Originally posted by top_end95
Acutally, its both piping and muffler (assuming you're talking about the stock exhaust).

N/T piping-2.0-.25"(?) Single Tip muffler

T piping-2.5" Dual Tip muffler

Im not absolutely positive about the size of the pipings, but Im pretty sure Im close if not on the mark.

No the exhaust is the same size piping.

http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68246&highlight=exhaust

If the turbo piping was 2.5" then it would be a waste of money to buy a 2.5" aftermarket exhaust.

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by jadamc
If the turbo piping was 2.5" then it would be a waste of money to buy a 2.5" aftermarket exhaust.

Not really. Would you want a exhaust that would rust or a stainless steel/Alum. exhaust?

*EDIT*
That link you provided just proved the stock GST piping is bigger, "The added diameter will help increase air-flow"

 

[eclipse420a2nr]

hey. what is good exhaust size for a 420a engine with aftermarket headers and CAI. i'm askin because from what i have read previously in this thread, bigger is not necessarily better. i have 2.5'' exhaust in mind. is this a good choice?

 

[top_end95]

Originally posted by eclipse420a2nr
hey. what is good exhaust size for a 420a engine with aftermarket headers and CAI. i'm askin because from what i have read previously in this thread, bigger is not necessarily better. i have 2.5'' exhaust in mind. is this a good choice?

2.5" is the best way to go if you're not planning on going the turbo route, anything bigger will reduce back-pressure (trq) drastically.

It's header not "headers". Sorry, had to point that out

 

[eclipse420a2nr]

thanks for the help. oh and it IS headers perdiod. ill be leavin this topic before this turns into some dumb argument.

 

[jadamc]

Originally posted by top_end95
*EDIT*
That link you provided just proved the stock GST piping is bigger, "The added diameter will help increase air-flow"

Read the last two posts.

*edit*
You are right though, it is header like stated earlier, unless you have a V shaped motor, or a ej20~ej25.

 

[Doug99RS]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111671

I've started a new thread debating the exhaust manifold/header discussion. Feel free to pipe up in there so as not to whore this thread out.
Doud

 

[dsm-jdm]

Originally posted by top_end95
2.5" is the best way to go if you're not planning on going the turbo route, anything bigger will reduce back-pressure (trq) drastically.

It's header not "headers". Sorry, had to point that out

I'm aiming for turbo in the future....But first im working on the prepping of my 420a (headers, cai, exhaust, cams, internals, etc) so, ofcourse its gonna take a while.....If i get a 2.5 inch exhaust system...my car will run the same without loosing back pressure.....But what happens when i turbo it up? Will it still run good with 2.5?? What should i do??? i wanna rid myself of my current exhaust cause its rusting and is looking nasty....But i don't wanna buy an exhaust knowing that it'll not be in my favor in the future......Any suggestions???

 

[Doug99RS]

Apex Integration cat-backs are pretty decent for most applications. They offer three different muffler designs which all have 2.5" exhaust piping. I would recomend any of those for non-turbo applications and the N-1 or Dunk exhaust for those wishing to go turbo after a little while. The last two muffler designs are louder and have less restriction than the World Sport Cat-back (which I run) and may not be the absolute best for a lightly modified car.

Keep in mind though you can buy a very cheap cat-back exhaust and sell it or scrap it later. Some of these exhaust will hold up for the amount of time you're looking at and gain just as much performance characteristics as the more expensive. The trade off is of course a lower resale value and a shorter lifespan than the higher quality ones.

Pacesetter makes cheap and adequate exhaust systems for those looking for short to medium term usage.
Doug

 

[forcd4]

Alright,

I have a 1997 eclipse gs and have the Star Perf turbo kit on it. I wanting to go 3.0 instead of the crappy stock. All i want is to replace from the downpipe to the rear muffler. My muffler is aftermarket that goes over the axle to the factory pipe. I want to keep my rear section. Also, would like it to be removable if needed. Does anybody know where i can find something like this. P.S. would like it to be stainless.

 

[Doug99RS]

I don't know that you will find too many kits that will fit your specific application because you've got a turbo kit and want no muffler. It almost sounds like you need to look in to some custom pipe work. I don't think you'll be able to find a distributor who can match their exhaust up to your after market turbo, run piping all the way back to your different aftermarket muffler that you want to be able to take off and on.

You best bet would be custom mandrel bent exhaust down-pipe, high flow cat (or none if you decide to do away with it) back to your current muffler. The muffler will need to be a slip-fit or bolt on design where only a clamp or couple of bolts hold it on so you can climb under there and remove it. If your current muffler is welded on there then it's probably going to cost you some extra money to get it to the point where it can accept a flange or slip over the rest of the piping.
Doug