should i bother turboing or get a different car

[benjimatt]

so in august i bought a green 95 automatic eagle talon esi fwd (in need of paint job about 600$)

and i do like the car. but i wish it was faster. so i am going to get 2 grand in january and i am wondering if i should bother turboing the car or if i should get a different car. although 2000 dollars probably isnt going to buy anything great.

the reason i like this car is because the way it looks.

my main goal is to run about mid thirteens and i think ill be happy. part of me wants to fold and purchase the 1g talon but i dont like the way it looks.

 

[95CarbonEclipse]

Personally, I'd save the 2 g's and put it towards a 2g turbo. If you like the looks of a 2g but want to run 13's. You'd be much better off buying a OEM turbo car and spending a few bucks for bolt-on's, as opposed to turbo'ing your N/A car and dealing with the headache and money of tuning it (plus you'll still need some bolt-ons).

If you wanna really impress people, then i say drop the 2 g's (plus more) and have a pretty uniques N/A turbo car.

 

[oldman]

so in august i bought a green 95 automatic eagle talon esi fwd (in need of paint job about 600$)

and i do like the car. but i wish it was faster. so i am going to get 2 grand in january and i am wondering if i should bother turboing the car or if i should get a different car. although 2000 dollars probably isnt going to buy anything great.

the reason i like this car is because the way it looks.

my main goal is to run about mid thirteens and i think ill be happy. part of me wants to fold and purchase the 1g talon but i dont like the way it looks.

Please use proper capitalization in tech forums. Thread moved to 420a Bolt On Tech for less bias opinions.

 

[95TalonOwner]

I turbo'd mine and have no regrets. I have owned 2 stock turbo dsm's plus my 2gnt and have no complaints about my turbo 420A other then that it isn't awd.

Turboing the 420A is just a different route of doing things. It isn't exactly cheap if you don't build your own kit though.

 

[BigRand]

its tough choice man, because a stock turbo eclipse is gonna run mid to low 15's (average driver IMO)

Mid 13's are possible if you have the following,

Good tires, your suspension is is decent shape, and your pushing over 200whp with a turbo (I'm not talking about bullet either)

I can't say 2grand will get you right where you want to at about 8psi or upwards if your tuned perfectly w/out using an FMU or stock injectors.

I think that if you really don't like the 1g body style, then it shouldn't even be an option, but if you like the 2g style, add the blue book to your 2grand and see what you come up with. and if that is enough to get into a 2g GST or GSX, then do it. But if you really really like your current car, then boost it, and enjoy what becomes of it.

I used to regret buying my NA, and almost sold it for a GSX or even a 240, but I learned alot with it and now I'm just not into giving it up. I'll wait till I get older and finsih school to buy another car to go in addition with this one

 

[Tarascan79]

I feel you on the need for speed with the 2gnt. Loved the looks but needed more power. I agree with the above post in that i guarantee if you sold your car and add 2g's you could afford a stock gst. I would personaly save for a awd because it is the best thing you will ever feel, if you just want a little extra power now and then buy a zex kit , safc and injectors and call it a day.

 

[benjimatt]

Unfortunately now i have this need for speed. I first had my moms Intrepid and then i went to this dsm. I must say i love the speed but i want more.

So i think im going to try and find a awd 2g dsm. Or go with a totally different platform.

Hopefully i can sell the dsm I have now for a little more than what i bought it for. The rims cost me 800 and the stereo system cost me about 300 all Together. It also has a short ram and maybe a exhaust coming soon.

 

[BigRand]

FYI:

IMO I think you'd be better off either selling the rims seperately, or keeping them....keeping the stereo for the next car you purchase. (hopefully its still a DSM) and then just sell the car if that is what you choose to do.


AS a 2gnt man myself I would love to tell you to keep it and boost it and love it for the rest of your life

(I can't tell you how many guys I know that regret selling there 420a turbo's..not that they didn't want the faster car or whatever, they just missed the idea of that project)............

but I can understand where your coming from. and that if the money isn't there its hard to get a build started. And the automatic thing starts out as a real setback uneless you plan to put some money into the automatic transmission or swap it over to a manual.

 

[95CarbonEclipse]

I agree... I LOVE the idea of a 2g N/T Turbo'd. Before I got my GSX I had a N/T and I always wanted to turbo it so that I could see the look on that other guys face when he just got beat by a "GS". But, at that time I wasn't ready for a project of that size, and when you're comparing $/HP... starting off with a OEM turbo'd car just makes more sense.

Especially since you have relatively mild HP goals. Although, I have a feeling that once you even come close to your goals, they'll have changed to something bigger.

 

[laserspeeddemon]

Sell you car and buy a 2g AWD with that money + the extra 2 grand. You should have some money left over and buy the first few mods needed to get to 13's.

 

[benjimatt]

Do you think i should get it painted and put an exhaust on it? Or should i just sell it like it is? The paint is pretty bad. I was thinking getting like a cheap macco paint job just to get it sold ya know.

I also think I will stick with a 2g awd or a 3000gt If my friend wants to sell me his for cheap. I just hope I can find one for 3500 or 4000 dollars (DSM).

 

[GS-T_Newboost]

when i first boosted my 420a it was a blast the first thing i beat was my buddys 95gsx with a 16g and no accesories but i would have missed out if i would have bought that gsx and sold my car

 

[95CarbonEclipse]

Do you think i should get it painted and put an exhaust on it? Or should i just sell it like it is? The paint is pretty bad. I was thinking getting like a cheap macco paint job just to get it sold ya know.

I also think I will stick with a 2g awd or a 3000gt If my friend wants to sell me his for cheap. I just hope I can find one for 3500 or 4000 dollars (DSM).

WTF How bad of shape is this thing in? It might be more valueable for you to just keep it as a back up for when your future AWD is on blocks. I just bought my girl an 03 Yukon and I'm stoked that I get her old Jeep Cherokee... now I can rip my car apart and not have to worry about having it back together by Sunday night.

 

[Blitzeclips]

This thread is going to get moved. I'll put money on it.

Too much "sell your car and buy a GS-T/X.."

Not cool 4g63 guys. Not cool at all. I rarely see responses from any 4g63 people in the 420a section, then when one guy is thinking of selling his car half the guys jump in and 'Yeah bro definately sell the car and buy a 1st gen,..'' or some other bullshit. Not cool.

OP- Have fun with your new turbo car. Go ahead and drop $2k into the motor for a faster car. See what they say when you crankwalk and all that money and work went down the shitter because of , well, wait, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you did. It just happens. So that $2k is down the drain because, a) it(crank) was badley engineered and b) it happened out of no fault of your own.

Now comes the, "what's crankwalk?" post...

Go ahead you turbo 4g63 guys, tell him ALL about it..

BTW OP, I RUN , I mean RUN GS-T's and GSX's all day long.

 

[oldman]

This thread is going to get moved. I'll put money on it.

Too much "sell your car and buy a GS-T/X.."

Not cool 4g63 guys. Not cool at all. I rarely see responses from any 4g63 people in the 420a section, then when one guy is thinking of selling his car half the guys jump in and 'Yeah bro definately sell the car and buy a 1st gen,..'' or some other bullshit. Not cool.

OP- Have fun with your new turbo car. Go ahead and drop $2k into the motor for a faster car. See what they say when you crankwalk and all that money and work went down the shitter because of , well, wait, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you did. It just happens. So that $2k is down the drain because, a) it(crank) was badley engineered and b) it happened out of no fault of your own.

Now comes the, "what's crankwalk?" post...

Go ahead you turbo 4g63 guys, tell him ALL about it..

BTW OP, I RUN , I mean RUN GS-T's and GSX's all day long.

Settle down Beavis....

 

[benjimatt]

The only reason i am agreeing to sell and buy a awd turbo. Is because I have a automatic fwd. I at least need turbo

This thread is going to get moved. I'll put money on it.

Too much "sell your car and buy a GS-T/X.."

Not cool 4g63 guys. Not cool at all. I rarely see responses from any 4g63 people in the 420a section, then when one guy is thinking of selling his car half the guys jump in and 'Yeah bro definately sell the car and buy a 1st gen,..'' or some other bullshit. Not cool.

OP- Have fun with your new turbo car. Go ahead and drop $2k into the motor for a faster car. See what they say when you crankwalk and all that money and work went down the shitter because of , well, wait, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you did. It just happens. So that $2k is down the drain because, a) it(crank) was badley engineered and b) it happened out of no fault of your own.

Now comes the, "what's crankwalk?" post...

Go ahead you turbo 4g63 guys, tell him ALL about it..

BTW OP, I RUN , I mean RUN GS-T's and GSX's all day long.

 

[link16]

This post is out of hand. Paul this is a dead end thread; he shouldn't ask that kind of question unless it is in the hangout.

For the record, I agree 100% with Blitz. Us 420A guys work hard to make our cars fast, the 4g63 guys bought a fast car, although I have nothing against the stock turbo cars, the turbo owners seem a bit too cocky.

The 420A community has come a long way even from when I joined the community last year.

OP- You are the only one to make a decision about whether to sell your car or not; if you would like for us to spend your money, please mail it to us; PM me for my email; I accept credit. If turboing your car would be a BOTHER than please, you needn't be in the DSM community.

Good day,
Alex

 

[Blitzeclips]

Exactly. We can't make up you're mind. OP, you yourself make that decision. Weight out the pros and cons..

 

[G9S6T]

If the only reason for selling your car is because its auto dont do it. I have an auto gst and bone stock with nothing but a type-rs bov I went 15.1 @ 89mph. Be creative bro its your car. Regardless if its a 4g63 or 420a things are going to brake. And half the things you have to do to turbo your car, we do the exact same things when upgrading. On the other hand if you want to just save the money and buy a turbo factory car I bought my gst with 94k miles for 2500. Just gotta find a good deal and remember its your car. You put the gas in that machine figure out what you wanna do and do it

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Well, I guess we need to have one good 4G63 vs. 420A argument every other month or so. I'm glad we got that out of the way.