Roof scoops? Where could I find one...

[solreclipsegurl]

why does it discredit our community? people have been fixing up rides long before us "import enthusiasts"... what obut the lowrider cars.. and the vintage cars..?? are they a discredit cause they add things to the appearance? i personally dont think so.. and i know theres lots of other people here who disagree with you. some people care nothing bout speed .. or how fast they can run the 1/4.. some people dont wanna remove their back seat in the name of weight...they wanna add big sound systems ... dont want to be like everyone else and have a stock looking car.. See i think adding things to the body ..interior..etc.. is what makes us a credit to the community=).. it makes us stand out..makes us diff. ..if you wanna blend in with everyone else thats your choice..i just dont think u should go around insulting people who wanna add "weight" to their car cause it looks good. This "discredit to the community" is something you should re-think.. its people who have closed minds that are a discredit.. not those who have crazy, wild ideas. And non-performance mods include other things besides sound barriers and weight minded material.. non-performance means ANYTIHNG that is not related to the actual performance aspect. and adding something like a scoop could take away from the aerodynamics of a car.. and then again it could add to it.. i dont think a lil thing like a scoop will shave a second off a time slip..but what do i know.. i only have one and it doesnt slow me down anymore more then i was before..

 

[JJay]

I really agree with your point of view Eclipsegurl. I have Roof scoops on my 1992 Eagle Talon and I have an APR wing. I love it. I am not gifted in mechanical engineering and I use my car as a daily driver. I get lots of thumbs up for my so called rice mods and people always tell me the car looks sweet. Now I am black and I live in a prodominantly black neighborhood. Everyonce in a while I drive in more white dominated areas and I run into "Ricer white boys" , Ricer Latinos and hard core tuner type whites or Latinos. I run into only musclecar lover guys with older Cudas, Mustangs and Camaros. We all have our likes and dislikes. There is no one right way. I have run into guys who don't like bodykits and wings, but they still give me respect and don't start shi@@$ with me. I feel as though DSM Tuners should be this way as well.
However everyone here is not as openminded. If you have a non-performance forum you should be able to discuss non-performance roof scoops . Hard core tuner guys on this webpage want this forum to not exist. I think this is unfair. If I had a Turbo AWD DSM and some money to get mods I would go gung-ho into making it faster, but with a non-turbo car and limited funds why would you sit around wondering how to make it faster if there is no significant difference and better yet..... you don't want to????????????????????????????????
I don't think that it disgraces the DSM Community that people add bodykits, Altezzas, roofscoops,18inch, 19 inch rims, Candy paint jobs, Big wings fiberglass or aluminum. If you are creative and it is your thing then so be it and enjoy the hell out of it Does anybody agree with me or do I sound crazy
I don't think everybody here should like bodykits either, but if you do talk with others about it and learn what you need to and move on. What is wrong with that? Now if you turn the page into a Tuner only page with no discussion of non-performance mods than that is different, then no one would be allowed to break the rules. As of yet though this has not happened. If it disgraces the DSM Community so much that any thing non-performance is discussed we should have a vote on this matter and either remove it or let it be with no further negative talk about it Disgraces the DSM Community. I really feel that is unfair and very onesided!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DSMZEX]

YO I live in florida now... I moved here after college...Near cleveland (HIRAM) to find a entire world of late night street racing. WOW! its a great time... I got involved in tuning my N/A talon only to run into alot of BS from other DSM owners. I dropped about $3,000 so far and it runs OK (intake,brake conv, cross drilled rotors, 17" motegi wheels, scoop, blah blah... I went to www.tampabay.dsm.org (real A$$HOLES) to find out more... big mistake... I agree wit my boy from C-town, let it GO! do what ever U want to your car. Its yours... and there are no rules on how to mod your car... if you have the bling... then do yo thang!

 

[quwhees99]

gosh JJay and solareclipsegurl that's what i'm talking about...in depth conversations

nutshot...my kit ads 15 pounds

 

[98cLipsE]

dude, do u have a clear pic of ur kit? i wanna see how it looks

 

[OnEdgeZ-24]

Lmao........thats a really neat idea for direct air-flow..
im gonna delete my AC on my car...i may consider a roof scoop now...hehehehe.

 

[EROK81]

I personally am getting sick of EVERYTHING that has to do with non-performance is being labeled rice. I drive a very plain looking talon, I think I have spent a good deal on performance mods. Everytime I have posted anything to do with appearance mods I get called rice. Even when posting in the non-performance section. Which by the title of the setion leads me to belive that asking non-performace questions is okay. If someone wants to add a roof scoop go ahead. I've seen cars with them and if done well looks really good.

 

[nutshot]

If fiberglass wings and carbon hoods were applied to fast cars, that would be cool. In fact, I'm all for 500+ hp rides with cosmetic upgrades. What bugs me is N/A DSM's and Celica ST's with fiberglass and aluminum bolted onto an otherwise stock ride. The problem is kids street race, and I have heard on more than one occasion that I should sell my DSM and purchase a (insert junk Honduh here) because that car beat a riced out DSM. Of course, the car they beat was a base model with no power mods. So, if I am the only one with performance mods before cosmetic ones, I will be discredited. That's how it works. You want to be different, don't want to follow the crowd, then why are you mimicking TFATF or SuperImports magazines? Look, pretty wheels are good, intake and exhaust are good. Why not purchase more power mods and make yer car as fast as it looks. Don't care about 1/4 times or slalom speed? Buy a Jaguar or Caddy. Why waste yer time making a slow car look fast? Oh, non-performance mods do include ergonomic items such as seats, roll-cages, weight reduction etc. That is what this section could be used for.

 

[greathuskie]

i dont see anything in the rules that says you have to post about stuff that only relates to making your car faster, nothing just for the hell of it

nutshot maybe you come to this board to see about go fast non-performance (how contradicting is that?) stuff but people ARE going to post about stuff that has NOTHING to do with performance and when they do, DONT READ IT

you are not going to change anyones mind by posting your thoughts about body kits and wheels on a board where alot of the people maybe cant afford the insurance of a turbo car but want a nice looking car, by your logic everyone of us should have just bought a 1g because they are ugly as hell but dont crankwalk, well we all dot have the same opinion as you do and you dont see everyone here going to the performance forum saying "why make your car faster? for the same amount you can buy a 3 subs and a body kit"

this is NOT a board to talk about performance, thus the "non performance" name of the board, and since you obviously dont like anything related to "non performance" stuff then dont come to this board, its as simple as that

you are like those people that come to this board (dsmtuners.com as a whole) and post about how shitty DSMs are, they have no real purpose to come here and in the end wind up making an ass out of themselves

 

[JJay]

We should take this arguement to the page moderators and the rest of the DSM Community and get a once and for all vote on what can on can't be discussed here in my opinion. Anyone agree?? Do you agree nutshot?

I think you should be glad there are some so called riced out DSM's because when they race and get beat they only set you up to look super fast. When you race people your car will be faster then that unsuspecting (junk piece of Honda) and you will win the race and startle all the onlookers and spectators of the RACE

You will have a bad reputation from riced out cars and it will turn into a golden reputation after you win multiple races!!!!! I don't think the cars in the Fast & the Furious are that bad. I sure do wish I had one of them!!! I would drive it and enjoy it. I think you don't realize that everybody out here does not race. You don't have to get a Caddy or Buick that is slow. You can make a Normal Aspirated DSM look fast or what ever you like and it is normal and okay. Everybody does not race!!! That is what you are missing. Where you live maybe everybody does, but not where I live so I can roll in a pimped out DSM or anycar with so called Rice/Go Fast parts and enjoy it. No big deal. I can also have a lot of fun cruising my car looking this way because dammit I just like it
Nutshot making a slow car look fast does not interest you so don't participate in the non-performance mods forum especially if it talks about wings, bodykits and roofscoops. One more thing. Why would I worry about fixing up a non-turbo to be fast if I don't mind how the car performs as it is?? I am not running 1/4 mile times........I will get a AWD Turbo DSM for that if I have the interest. Then after I get the AWD Turbo DSM I may just like it stock and not want to make it way faster than it is. I may still just want to individualize it some more. I am glad I can make a statement with my car by its style alone and that makes me happy

 

[vertGST]

^^^^

Brendon

 

[KingOFunk]

Not everyone buys a DSM to go to the track or do the whole illegal street racing thing. If someone wants to make their car into a boat who cares? To me a car's more then an engine on wheels. It's a way of expressing who you are. If you like to race... great. If you like to purely show.... great. If you just want to catch someone's eye... great. Whatever you do, do it for you not cuz someone else thinks it's cool. Do what you want to.

And stop with the stinkin rice thing. There's way too much this you should do and this is "ricy" crap. Some people like to have a car that's faster then stock but it's not everything. They still like to have a comfortable car that looks different then the other dsm's in the world. Instead of competeing in a race they like to compete on do you have this or my ___ looks better then yours. I might be all alone here but that doesn't matter.

 

[nutshot]

My argument, which has so far been poorly made, is that exterior mods make a statement that you intend to race. There are exceptions to this rule, as in the case of murals and neons. However, if you do not wish to race, why purchase aerodynamic enhancements? What possible gain does that downforce created by the aluminum wing have on a 140 horse car? How does a non-functional hood scoop (also read air-brake) increase the pleasure of yer ride? Wanna show? Fine. Do it. Wanna race? Fine. Do that. But don't run shoe polish in yer window because you ran a 16.4 last weekend. Don't claim to have a faster car than anybody. Don't waste the hard earned respect that I am battling for. You don't race? I do. Gotta problem with me? Tough.

 

[KingOFunk]

Ok you obviously don't belong in this forum. You do your hardcore tuning and get a crazy fast car we respect that but keep it where it belongs. If you're not going to be productive then just stay out. Please.

 

[solreclipsegurl]

Originally posted by nutshot
My argument, which has so far been poorly made, is that exterior mods make a statement that you intend to race. There are exceptions to this rule, as in the case of murals and neons. However, if you do not wish to race, why purchase aerodynamic enhancements? What possible gain does that downforce created by the aluminum wing have on a 140 horse car? How does a non-functional hood scoop (also read air-brake) increase the pleasure of yer ride? Wanna show? Fine. Do it. Wanna race? Fine. Do that. But don't run shoe polish in yer window because you ran a 16.4 last weekend. Don't claim to have a faster car than anybody. Don't waste the hard earned respect that I am battling for. You don't race? I do. Gotta problem with me? Tough.

i agree with everyone here except nutshot.. you keep posting that were not understanding your point of view..but we are!!... u keep saying that we shouldnt put aerodynmaic parts on our cars unless we do performance mods too.. and by having body kits and wheels we give the "illusion" that were fast.. when were not.. am i getting the jist of what your saying??

body kits are not, nor were they ever made to make the statement to everyone "i'm fast and wanna race".. full carbon fiber bodies on drag cars say "i'm fast , wanna race" not roof scoops, and front bumpers on street cars. They were made for the person who wants to look diff. and show their car. You dont have to be fast to show your car and win trophies.. And so far.. i have not read one post that in the NON-PERFORMANCE FOURM that has anyone stating they are fast becasue of their body kit or wheels. Personally i could care less if u are battling for respect of being fast.. and i'm sure alot of people in this particular fourm would agree with me there..
You are saying we have a problem with you racing.. i havnt read one post here that says that either.. everyone is just stating that your opinion is actually obsolete in this forum.. U keep saying dont go show unless your fast cause it makes it harder for u to have respect whena honda beats a slow "show" dsm.. who cares.. like jj said.. when they finally race u and u whoop em.. then you have yr respect..

Yes alluminum wings were first intended to hold the ass end of your car down when its power exceeded what the car weighed.. (and essentially lifted off the ground).. and actually it was meant even more towards rear wheel drive cars.. and yes the movie TFATF showed those wings on slow cars (they were meant to look fast and essentially in the movie.. they were actually supposed to be as fast as they looked).. but again.. it is looks .. just like a fashion show.. our cars are a statement of our personalities. if yours is a stock looking 1st gen that can excellerate at high speeds quickly..then thats what you are showing people.. if i want mine to have extra fiberglass and heavier wheels and say i have lots of trophies.. then fine.. what does it matter to u.. were not going around telling people were fast.. (at least i'm not.. i actually tell people i'm slow).. yes my car does give off the apprearence its fast.. but so what.. so a honda does a "rice flyby" "beats me and says i win" .. who cares ..

I persoanlly am building my engine and adding a custom turbo kit.. because i would like to have my car be as fast as it looks.. and because my boii has a honda with a supercharger and beats me.. and i wanna finally beat him.. haha.. ..

neway all jokes aside.. not everyone wants to be fast or has the cash flow to do so.. I know i'm rambeling on..but i guess i'm just tired of getting ragged on for having a strickly show car ..as i'm sure a lot of other guys/girls are in this forum.. Like was mentioned above.. u shouldnt even be posting in this forum.. stay to the performance forum.. unelss u have something to add here that might be helpful or ensightful to others who are interested in SHOW..

one more thing.. there are two people here in co that have extremely fast dsms that have not touched a single thing in their car in the name of weight reduction!!! which includes the back seat which ways all of about 5 lbs of foam..

 

[solreclipsegurl]

so what does everyone have done to their car that has to do with non performance here.. ?? i love the fact that there are others here who agree with me in that U DONT HAVE TO BE FAST to look good.. .. anyone here intersted in posting some of their mods..hell list whateve ru got.. non perf. or perf.=)

MINE INCLUDE:

fully molded body kit w/NON fuction roof scoop(all fiberglassed)
17" primax wheels w/ yokahomas
short shifter (which i guess has to do with performance)
eibach springs, spc front a rear camber kit (which serves both non perf. and perf. aspects)
currently in the process of redoin my interior cause i dont like the stained gray stock stuff..
and yes i am redoing my engine with a custom turbo kit. for performance reasons as well as another show aspect ( more points ) LoL..

would post pix.. but i've been getting sh*t for my pix.. (for being ricy and having my name across them)..

 

[JohnWH]

Ummmmm, I thought this thread was about "roof scoops".

How in the world did it evolve into a "performance VS. non-performance" argument and then again into a "list your mods" kinda deal???

Back on topic maybe?

 

[solreclipsegurl]

well being as tho u posted "is it my time of the month" how did that retain to roof scoops?
since no one was talking bout anything except the recent arguement.. i decided to just ask a ques to those who were friendly enough to back me up on the scoop thing. conversation ..
.. but nevermind.. if u dont want me to post i will galdly stop..

 

[JohnWH]

Originally posted by solreclipsegurl

.. but nevermind.. if u dont want me to post i will galdly stop..

Thank god.

 

[DSM mechanix]

Originally posted by JohnWH


Thank god.

:laugh:

no offince lisa (think i saw a bunch of aticles bout your car online)

 

[solreclipsegurl]

geeze why do u guys have to be so rude. i said i'd stop and nicly i might add.. what is with everyone on this board.. ??

 

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by DSM mechanix
im sure if u get a quality scoop it wouldnt allow water inside when closed or whatever... and the reason behind scoops is to get air in cars (race cars) with no A/C.

Not quite. It is added to cars that are either mid engine, or have a radiator in the back. Its a car function piece.. if this was written, sorry in advanced.. This is definatly rice. Rice is adding something to pose. Using Brake cooler duct add ons that arent a duct is rice. If you like rice, well more power to you.. just dont say it isnt rice to make yourself feel better. Nothing funnier than a ricer saying he hates rice, not knowing he hates himself.



-Willie
SR20DET powered.. for now.

 

[JJay]

Whoa hooooo that is so funny.......nothing funnier than a ricer who hates rice....... He hates himself.....whoa you are killing me.

Personally anybody who is limited in their horizons and perspectives on life is funny to me. Have you ever embraced other cultures in life? Can you see the world through someone elses perspective?? For some of you guys here I don't think that you want to or have the ability to. If you like to fix your car up you don't have to be called a ricer. Some people call it .........customizing. I don't think that is hard to see. If you want to call it rice..... I do think you want to be on purpose closeminded and limited to one point of view. The world is not black and white with no shades in between. There are many different ways of doing things. This is the 21st century.
Lisa I think your car sounds really good and I am glad that you have the money to make it look fast and look good and you are most importantly enjoying it. If you are not enjoying your hobby/interest something is VERY WRONG. Do what you like to do and what makes you happy. If people have to be stupid and say it is rice this and rice that so be it........but at least you are happy and you enjoy your car and your hobby. I don't think anybody should have a problem with that!!!

 

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by JJay
Whoa hooooo that is so funny.......nothing funnier than a ricer who hates rice....... He hates himself.....whoa you are killing me.

Personally anybody who is limited in their horizons and perspectives on life is funny to me. Have you ever embraced other cultures in life? Can you see the world through someone elses perspective?? For some of you guys here I don't think that you want to or have the ability to. If you like to fix your car up you don't have to be called a ricer. Some people call it .........customizing. I don't think that is hard to see. If you want to call it rice..... I do think you want to be on purpose closeminded and limited to one point of view. The world is not black and white with no shades in between. There are many different ways of doing things. This is the 21st century.
Lisa I think your car sounds really good and I am glad that you have the money to make it look fast and look good and you are most importantly enjoying it. If you are not enjoying your hobby/interest something is VERY WRONG. Do what you like to do and what makes you happy. If people have to be stupid and say it is rice this and rice that so be it........but at least you are happy and you enjoy your car and your hobby. I don't think anybody should have a problem with that!!!

Touching, Next time I see a civic with a super shogun body kit that is clinging to life with duct tape and zip ties, 5 foot wing boasting a stock exhaust and chipped painted interior and powered by Nismo on it, I will think you you and shed a tear, because if it makes them happy then it is road worthy and should be appreciated by all as art and expressing themselves. You don't think they could be expressing "rice."

Learn what the word rice has came to be. It sums it up so auto enthusists save the stress and carpel tunnel from typing it out.

Sorry If I offended you/your car.

 

[JJay]

See.........I can tell you don't understand what I am trying to say.

I don't want you to change if you are incapable of changing, but what you call rice could also be interpreted as customizing. We don't all live by the same definition of rice. So you can and are certainly entitled to your opinion and TRUST me....... I don't want to change it. Be who you want to be, but let others be who they want to be. Let everybody judge themselves on what good style is or is not. Do you agree or not?

Don't sympathize for me because I don't care if you don't respect people who don't have what you have or do what you do, however we all are human beings and we all deserve equal liberties of freedom of expression even if you think that it is rice and don't personally like it.

I look at that guy with a beat up Civic with a Shogun Body kit with Nismo emblems and Duct tape on it and I know that he wishes he had a big money car like one in "Super Street", Performance Auto & Sound, LowriderEuro, Sport Compact, Honda Tuning, Import Tuner, EuroTuner etc. This guy wishes he had a show car and cannot afford one. I can feel for him. There are a lot of people like that. Girls and Guys. What is wrong with being poor, but wanting more?? I don't look down on that guy. Maybe he works a shitty job and wishes for more and he wants it so bad the best he can do is an f...ed up Civic so........that does not make him a bad person. He is just doing the best he can until later. I would not dis on him. To dis on him is to not know how good you may have it. We all are trying and for some people maybe you can come to the table with a clean car with all power/performance mods, but everybody does not have a lot of $$$$$$$ and if all they can do is a bodykit with duct tape. Dammit I am not going to dis them if they are trying hard as they can