Rally-Compilation 2

[aDee]

Part two of the Rally-Compilation saga. Enjoy.

Rally-Compilation 2 - Car Videos on StreetFire

 

[Artago]

Sweet video bud. But I wish you uploaded a high def version of it.

I'm trying to get into Rally myself. What kind of suspension are you running?

Got any advice for me?

Thanks man,

Tom

 

[jtmcinder]

Please don't try to rally a 2G. You don't have the front suspension travel. I did some damage just rallycrossing a 2G. Get a 1G or an Evo.

To OP: nice video. Captures the intensity well.

 

[Artago]

Please don't try to rally a 2G. You don't have the front suspension travel. I did some damage just rallycrossing a 2G. Get a 1G or an Evo.

To OP: nice video. Captures the intensity well.

Sorry, should of mentioned. I got a 1G as well

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/406969-finally-did-i-bought-1g.html

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Please don't try to rally a 2G. You don't have the front suspension travel. I did some damage just rallycrossing a 2G. Get a 1G or an Evo.

To OP: nice video. Captures the intensity well.

I got chewed to high heaven for saying that exact thing. Pretty sure I back tracked just to avoid being eaten.

 

[jtmcinder]

If you're referring to rallying (or even rallycrossing) a 2G, then you shouldn't have backed off. It's moronic beyond words to do that with a double-wishbone car with little suspension travel. Might as well rally a fricken go-kart.

Yes, I set FTD at three of four rallycross events in my 2G. But I'm a g*d and I don't mind working on the car.

Since then, I switched to an Evo.

 

[Artago]

Well I plan to Rally, Rally Cross, and Auto Cross my 1G so it's not an issue. I just need advice because I'm new to this.

Cheers, and thanks for any advice.

Tom

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Amazing. Keep doing what you do.

 

[Artago]

Amazing. Keep doing what you do.

Dur?

 

[jtmcinder]

Well I plan to Rally, Rally Cross, and Auto Cross my 1G so it's not an issue. I just need advice because I'm new to this.

If you intend to compete, then - as always - the first thing to do is read the rules. Depending on the existing mods to the car, you then choose a class. Next, you delete mods that are not allowed and plan the mods that you don't have yet. Remember that - as almost always - tires and wheels are the most important.

The only thing that is relatively unique to rallycross and rallying is protecting the car from damage. All of the major sanctioning bodies in the US allow for a skidplate and mudflaps in the lowest class (i.e., Stock). This is important.

Note that the Stock-class rules for rallycross and autocross match very well. This doesn't hold true for higher classes.

Let me give specifics for SCCA's Stock (which overlaps almost perfectly with other Stock-class rules). You are allowed to change the wheel offset by up to 9mm, run any DOT tire (although some regions ban alpine-symbol snows and SoCal doesn't allow snows at all), any shock with the same adjustability as OE, front swaybar, cat-back exhaust, drop-in, and a skidplate and flaps. My order of mods for 1G DSM would be the same as for an Evo: (1) skidplate and flaps, wheels at the minimum-legal offset, and snows; (2) softer front swaybar and shocks that are hugely digressive in bump; (3) cat-back and drop-in.

If you've already gone way beyond this and must run in Mod or Prepared, then I can't help.

On the flip side (as it were - I hope that's a joke), if you intend to just have fun, then all you need is a skidplate and flaps plus a sense of humor.

For your amusement ... my new car ...

 

[Artago]

Thanks for all the info.

The car is pretty much bone stock. All it has is hard upper inter cooler pipes, a k&n filter, and a boost gauge.

You mentioned a softer sway, it's info like this that I would have never thought of. Where do you even get a softer sway bar?

Also, what about ride height and springs? The car currently sits on Sprint lowering spring but those are getting swapped for stock springs soon. Should I shim the top of the springs to raise the car up by 5-10mm for extra ground clearance?

Thanks,

Tom

 

[jtmcinder]

I'm sorry to be pedantic, but is this for fun or do you want to be competitive? This is a key decision to make early on so you aren't upset later.

If it's for fun, then raise the car back up, think about a skid plate, and have at it.

If you want to be competitive, then the IC pipes have to go. They bump you up at least one category and then you'll be toast because you'll be up against Evos and STis on $3000 coilovers.

As to softening the front bar: the easiest option, since no-one sells an off-the-shelf softer bar, is to add tabs to the ends to move the bolt-holes outwards. (Remember: the stiffness of the bar is inversely proportional to the length of the arms on the ends.) This is what I'm doing to the Evo. But you need to check to be sure that you'll have enough room to do this. The alternative is to just remove one endlink for rallycrossing. This is sub-optimal, as my daughter would say; I'm not at all sure that no bar would be better than a bar that's too stiff.)

Oh, and as to shimming for extra ride-height: this is also not allowed in stock. Only do this if you're only planning to have fun. The only up-side to this idea is that it might mean you don't need a skidplate.

 

[aDee]

Good advise.. Don't do it .
Yeah, read the rules as there are different regulations. Rally-America won't let you run AWD-Turbo without previous professional experience. They might let you convert it to AWD-NA for few rallies before you get the regular competition license.
If you plan to run real rallies, you'll need roll cage built to spec, certified(FIA, SFI) seats, helmet, HANS, suit, extinguishers, gas tank protection, license fee, entry fee, some other small required bits and pieces, and some more $$MONEY$$ .
And than all other stuff that's not required but a must if you plan to finish at some reasonable place: skidplate, lights, brakes, suspension, tires, wheels, trailer, truck, spares, co-driver, notes..

That's why I said "Don't do it" because once you try, you'll want to do it again and again and again..

 

[Artago]

Good advise.. Don't do it .
Yeah, read the rules as there are different regulations. Rally-America won't let you run AWD-Turbo without previous professional experience. They might let you convert it to AWD-NA for few rallies before you get the regular competition license.
If you plan to run real rallies, you'll need roll cage built to spec, certified(FIA, SFI) seats, helmet, HANS, suit, extinguishers, gas tank protection, license fee, entry fee, some other small required bits and pieces, and some more $$MONEY$$ .
And than all other stuff that's not required but a must if you plan to finish at some reasonable place: skidplate, lights, brakes, suspension, tires, wheels, trailer, truck, spares, co-driver, notes..

That's why I said "Don't do it" because once you try, you'll want to do it again and again and again..

Hahaha well I'll take the "Don't Do It" advice under consideration but chances are I still wanna go through with this.

I was planning to join some Rally Cross events up here in Canada. With any luck I'll get my car prepped for performance rallying sometime next year.

I'm just going to do this in baby steps and see how it goes.

Wish me luck.