Race gas?

[djsven]

Hi,

This is to the ones running race gas often or daily? I am probably going to run race gas on daily basis. But I want to know what kind you are running, does it harm your O2 sensor and for the ones in MN, where can I get a whole drum?
Thanks,

Sven

 

[half-cocked]

Race gas will not harm your O2 sensor as long as it's not leaded. As for a ordering a drum, you can order one from Torco Race Fuels in 5, 10, 15, 55 drums and 30,000 gallon rail car loads. Kind of pricey to be running race gas all the time though.

 

[zross1]

I wish I had the $ to run race gas every day. I can't remember how high octane (104 or 106) that is still unleaded so this will not hurt your 02 sensor. In fact you can run as high octane of race gas you can as long as it's not leaded and not have any ill effects on your 02 sensor or cat if you have one. But even if you run leaded race gas you can take the 02 sensor out every now and then and clean it off with a wire brush and your good to go.

 

[DSMJim]

For the track most people run VP C16 which is a fairly heavily leaded gas thats 117octane.

A good alternative to that is C14 from VP. It's a lighter fuel, 115octane and has less than half the lead of C16. It is still leaded but has much less led and it will not harm the O2 sensor or external wastegate as quickly.

Generally if you run race gas at the track and run regular fuel the rest of the time you will not notice any less O2 life. To be safe C14 has less than half the lead which gives an extra margin of safty.

 

[KPWSerpiente]

Ditch the cat and buy a denso o2 sensor such as the one machV sells. Now you can run leaded gas.

-T

 

[djsven]

Hi,


What about the bosh o2 sensor or the ones of wide bands like aem? Can they be used with leaded race gas? And I am not running my car often. Probably 5000-10000 miles a year, so cost I don't care.
Thanks so far for the replies.

sven

 

[turbowop]

Hi,


And I am not running my car often. Probably 5000-10000 miles a year, so cost I don't care.


sven

Sheesh. If you put 10,000 miles on your car at 20mpg that will still cost you $5000 in racegas using VP C16 @ $10/gallon. Your mpg rating will go down signifigantly if you use the racegas for what it's for (WOT), costing you even more. Just thought I'd throw some numbers out there for you.

 

[GSntncT]

Sheesh. If you put 10,000 miles on your car at 20mpg that will still cost you $5000 in racegas using VP C16 @ $10/gallon. Your mpg rating will go down signifigantly if you use the racegas for what it's for (WOT), costing you even more. Just thought I'd throw some numbers out there for you.

Very true. I really don't see this guy driving with race gas on a daily basis, unless he can get it for 1.50 a gallon

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

It's wayy too expensive to drive daily on race gas. I am on 110 daily at $3.25 a gal and its like $40 to fill up. Then on the weekends I'm on C16. That alone is $100 for two nights . Is it worth it? Not really so when I get poor, I get 92 octane and don't boost (cause I don't have a pump gas tune yet). Just some numbers to think about if you drive alot. I put 1.5k miles on so far on this kind of gas and it's starting to add up

 

[zross1]

It's wayy too expensive to drive daily on race gas. I am on 110 daily at $3.25 a gal and its like $40 to fill up. Then on the weekends I'm on C16. That alone is $100 for two nights . Is it worth it? Not really so when I get poor, I get 92 octane and don't boost (cause I don't have a pump gas tune yet). Just some numbers to think about if you drive alot. I put 1.5k miles on so far on this kind of gas and it's starting to add up

What kind of fp turbo do you have? With the whp your signature says, you should have a turbo that's way effecient on pump.

 

[djsven]

Hi,

I have for now a FP big T28. But I am doing research for next year. I am upgrading to a FP3052, FP3065, GT30BB or GT35R? Still deciding! What I meant with daily basis is that when ever I drive the car around town during the spring-summer period. I have a daily driver. I just want something that is better then the 92 octane, hence the question about 104+ octane booster. The car will be set at the lower boost level and higher at the track. I am searching something for on the street, because you can't run C16 or equivalent on daily basis. It will destroy your o2 sensors. There is VP performance unleaded and C10, for the price of $308 per 54 gallons. Or the VP110, like someone mention before priced at $273 per 54 gallons. I just want to know from people that run a race gas on daily basis or often and what they use for street or strip.
Thanks,

Sven

 

[alex027]

Why not just use a water injection kit. Running that with the right setup yields the same gains as a higher octane fuel. Lowers the chances of knock to be able to run more boost. The cost of a kit will equal the amount you will probably spend on race fuel in about 2 months depending on how many miles you put on it. Just my .02

 

[JohnTSI]

May car only knows 110 leaded. Has never seen anything else since i have owned it.

 

[nellystyle]

buya beater with the money you'd spend daily driving the octane guzzing beast. then fill up w/ your high octane when you want to use the dsm. i couldn't see spending that kind of loot on fuel. $2.19/gal here for 93, i was crying when it was $2.3x

 

[Mr.Tao]

I second What NellyStyle said. Drive a beater around and use ur DSM for ocassional driving if you wanna use racegas all the time. Unless you are those type of people that feels the need to race everywhere you go from redlight to redlight endangering ur life and others, farting exhausts all over the road. There's no need for that.