possible crankwalk

[96gstdsm]

Hi i just bought my first eclipse about 10 days ago, it's a 96 gs-t 5 speed.

it seemed to be running great when i first got it and now there seems to be a big problem with it.

It started out with it sounding like alot of leaking coming from the bov region i checked and it had actually popped off so i put it back on securely and then it stopped. it came back later with a strange air leaking noise every time i shifted kinda almost a grinding air noise. after that there started to be a strange ticking noise coming from the engine. also the engine had a kinda throbbing shake to it that would get faster as the rpms went higher. the ticking also turned into a loud grinding noise when i revved it up and when it lowered in revs. also first gear has gotten much harder to get into over the past 10 days, i now have to fight to get it into gear. the ticking from the engine or wherever it is coming from subsides when i push in the clutch. i havent driven it for a couple of days now or tried to start it up in fear of somehting completely going. but when i did start it up a few days ago it starts up easy and no smoke or anything like that. fuel levels are fine. also took off the valve cover and everything seemed to be good and tight in there.

if anyone has any suggesstions as to what it might be please let me know.

from reading about crankwalk this seems like it might be that or just somehting wrong with the clutch orr flywheel or somehting like that.

please let me know. any info iss very helpfull. ---ryan.

 

[wolven91tsiawd]

ok ive had a simmilar problem with mine and it was in the beginning stages of crankwalk.dose the clutch peddle stay to the floor sometimes?also check the ballance shafts bearings.

 

[mjarrell20]

From what you've described it does sound like early stages of crank walk. If your clutch pedal is sticking to the floor then it's definite crank walk and if that's the case I would go ahead and tear it down before it does walk and severe damage is done.

 

[andymoraitis]

Ryan,

The noise that usually results from crankwalk doesn't subside when the clutch pedal is pressed in. Another symptom is the clutch pedal falling to the floorboards on a hard left turn. Crankwalk is the LAST thing I'd suspect at this point.

Since you're having trouble with gear engagement, I'd suspect a clutch master or clutch slave is leaking. Look around under the clutch pedal by the floorboard. If you see fluid dripping you have a leak and aren't getting proper engagement from the slave rod. Also, if you have a ticking noise that goes away when you press the clutch in, that's most likely your throwout bearing rattling around.

I'd say it's time to check for leaks and then pull the clutch and see what's up. While it's out, you can have crankshaft endplay measured.

Let us know what you find,

Andy

 

[96gstdsm]

ok i hope that is all that is wrong with it, much better than buying a new short block! yaeh the clutch does not seem to stick to the floor at all, seems to work fine, just first gear has gotten really hard to put into gear. other than that every gear works fine. havent driven it for a few days now though. i'll check for any leaking near the clutch, and i'm gonna take the tranny off tomorrow to take a look around. i never noticed the clutch falling to the floor around left turns but havent driven it much at all since the problems have started.

the person i bought it from said that they replaced the clutch not too long ago with a different one so must could have not installed it very well.

i will post as to what i find when i check further into it. thanks alot. ----ryan.

 

[Spooling99]

Crankwalk is alot of peoples first assumption. Make sure you rule out everything else before jumping in the My car crankwalked thread.

 

[TheClaw]

Didn't you test drive the car before you bought it?? Sounds like a lot of crap to pop up in 10 days!

Good luck

 

[96gstdsm]

yaeh i did test drive it first. drove perfectly!! didn;t drive it hard really though on the test drive(big mistake i guess) after driving it hard for a few dyas thats when it all starte3d to happen, didn;t really take it much over 5,000 rpm's though so strange. i'm thinking i will check out the whole clutch setup to make sure there isn;t somehting broken or loose there, seems like that could be the problem quite possibly.

 

[andymoraitis]

Ryan,

You're on the right track. When you yank the transmission, have it looked at and also check for broken shift forks since they can make gear engagement awfully tough (busted synchros will do the same).

Keep us posted,

Andy

 

[96gstdsm]

i checked pressing in the clutch again yesterday(been busy so havent been able to take the tranny off yet) and it does stick a little when i push it in. it sticks when i release it for like asecond and then it releases all the way. does this still sound like a throw out bearing or something like that? is that something that would happen with crankwalk? i'm gonna be taking off the transmission tomorrow probably to take a look inside to figure it out, just thought i would ask if that sounds like somehting in particular?

ok well let me know if you have any info about this. thanks alot. ---ryan.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

As Andy stated, "if it stays on the floor during a hard left, you might start to consider crankwalk", however, if it's just having trouble coming back up at random times I would more than likely suspect it's a leaky master and/or slave cylinder also. IMO if you have to change one, just replace both, but that's your choice.

I would suspect the 1st gear synchro is out and that's why you are having troubles. I know on mine, and from reading...a few others also, that the best way to go into first is to go into 2nd first, then go into 1st. But that's just my car.

Also having the lifters tick is a common thing with our cars, so you might need to isolate where the noise is coming from...top of engine, or around the tranny.

 

[96gstdsm]

ok i checked myself and had a shop give a free check to it, and it is not crankwalk which is good, seems to be a throwout bearing as andymoraitis suggested (thank you!) so gonna just put a new one of those in along with a clutch and hopefully flywheel and for now an lsd insert as i dont have money for a real lsd right now. hopefully it should be much better after that, will still have to cehck the forks to see if something is wrong there as it was getting hard to get in gear. thanks alot and i'll keep updated when i fix it.

 

[boosted-dsm]

well glad to hear that it didnt walk.. my 96 walkd on me.. i cought it before it went completey out.. but my thrust bearing was worn down serveraly along with my crank. i had a ticking sound also that just got lounder n louder the more miles i was puttin on it.

again glad to hear it wasnt CW.

 

[96gstdsm]

Thought i would finalize this post. It was the tob i saw once the tranny was removed. The tob didn't look bad or anything though, but don't know what else it could have been as the sound went away once the new one and clutch setup was installed. It was all dry i guess so no oil or anything in it and it was a metal sleeved one so maybe thats the only cause. Well anyways 1100 bucks later (for clutch and labor) there is no more sound!

--Ryan.