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THEKILLERWHALE

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Mar 28, 2011
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okay so i originally was having a shop do my timing belt and a few accessory belts and had some issues with that.

after that job was done and it damaged a bunch internally, i then took it to someone else to rebuild the motor for me, it was my only car and i am nowhere near knoledgable enough at this moment in time to do such in depth work alone. so i had someone else do it for me.

so after all the waiting time and everything i started to push him to finish because i was planning on leaving florida to move to california. so he finished and finally got it done and back to me. car ran great for 90 miles. he came and got me, we drove it around about 20 miles. then i dropped him off and took the car.

i then made it 8 miles after leaving his shop and the car started vibrating real bad and died. so i pulled off and parked. tried to start it a couple times, no luck.

so, i towed it back to his place and the next day he calls me and says that i bent all 16 valves and guides and the head needed to be redone. i told him i will pay for the head to be redone. but as for more labor, and the costs of the whole job to fix it over all, i just want to know a little more of what could have happened

what could i have specifically done that would have caused that to happen? or was it something that was inevitable? i didnt push the car, i cruised the whole way, never went past 2 psi of boost on my gauge and never exceeded 3500 rpms. i watched very close, i havent had the car in 4 months i wasnt going to take any chances.

just trying to figure out if what happened was directly my fault, he claims if he had been able to keep the car for the break in process and do it himself he could have possibly avoided it. but by how quick it happened. i see no way how he could have avoided anything.

i just want to know what may have happened and if it was directly anything that was my fault or not.

thanks guys

ps - its a 2g eclipse with a 6 bolt swap. 16g evo iii turbo. vr speed factor fmic. stock ecu, not tuned. pretty much a factory rebuild for the head, block, and internals, except for ARP rod bolts and head studs. stock injectors. walbro fuel pump.
 
If your valves are all bent, someone mucked up the timing job, the belt probably fell off or jumped a bunch of teeth. Your valves got chewed up and banged around by the pistons because someone didnt know what they were doing.

:notgood: someones taking you for a ride. Bad workmanship. I would be livid pissed.
 
With that low of mileage on the rebuild; I'd say it was something on their end. Since they touched the timing, I'd defiantly go after them.

If this happened, say 3000 miles down the road (although that would still suck) it would be more of a part failure; not so much a lame mechanic failure. ;)
 
It is definitely their fault... They should really pick up all the costs to get your car back on the road. Hopefully they will own to their bad mechanical work and fix the car. Otherwise small claims court??? Its tricky also because of your move to CA. Anyone will back you up on this one; what happened was not right!
 
yeah i thought the whole thing was bullshit, but i wasnt 100% about what i thought yet cause i didnt know for sure.

i had a buddy ( honda guy - lame ). tell me it coulda been due to tuning. when the guy do the rebuild he swapped out the ecu i had in it with a stock ecu and we put stock 450cc injectors in it to make it kinda a stock rebuild since it had larger injectors in it before and wasnt tuned correctly so it was running horrible.

but it ran fine for 90 miles, then all of a sudden at 91 it killed it. so it must have slipped im assuming? if it was a problem from the start, it would have ####ed off at immediate startup right?
 
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Yep their fault, deffinantly sounds like something left loose causing that belt to jump. I would be mad as hell if I were you.

Bad tuning wouldnt cause your timing belt to fail.
 
If you were beating on the car and revving it past redline, then it's your fault. If not, I'd bring it back and tell them you paid them to fix it, so fix it.
 
I would def take it back that's why u brought it to a shop in the first place to get it done right someone is trying to take you for a ride
 
I had a Gst that kept jumping time. I had the belt and tensioner replaced but nothing else. Sounds to me like something in the timing belt cover is seizing up theres more under there then just the belt and tensioner.
 
Have them replace the Hydralic tensioner. I skipped timing multiple times and thought maybe i was timing it wrong. Nope the tensioner was bad. Replaced it and problem solved
 
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