oil filter housing cross reference

[Russman1986]

Hey forum, Just a few questions about the oil filter housings.
I have a 96 M/T GST 7bolt 4g63 the oil filter housing started leaking at the sending unit.
It was cracked, so all i need to know is what will work to replace it.
Will one from a 7bolt 420 A or a 6bolt 4g63 Work?
Hope this is not a dumb question but i cant find the info i need.
Trying to go to the yard in the morning to get this, just need to know what car I can rob it off.


Thanks

 

[19Eclipse90]

You need one from another 7-bolt 4G63 turbo DSM, late 1992-1999.

 

[Russman1986]

So a N/T late 1992-1999 Will not work?

 

[19Eclipse90]

A late 1992-1994 non-turbo housing will technically work, but you won't be able to keep your water cooled system if you use it without some sort of adaptive unit. Same goes with 2G non-turbo Spyder housings. No 1995-1999 420A housing will work.

 

[Russman1986]

What is the downside to that?

 

[Absit]

You won't have an oil cooler..

 

[Russman1986]

I have all the stuff to put a oil cooler in my bumper can i still do that? Will the N/T Housing have the line?

 

[19Eclipse90]

To running without an oil cooler? None really. They are recommended, not required so long as you allow proper cool down for your car/turbo before shutting it off. If you decided to go that route, you'd need to make sure you loop the line that feeds the cooler to that for the return.

 

[Absit]

To the best of my knowledge, no, it won't.

The generally accepted idea is if you're not going to road race or autocross you don't need an oil cooler.
My thought is why wouldn't I want one anyway?!

 

[Russman1986]

Thanks Will let you know how it all turns out!

 

[Russman1986]

So i got the part off a 94 4g63 N/t it looks the same as my old one.
The oil cooler part DSM Graveyard - Your #1 Source for DSM Parts!
can i just put it on the new one?
The old one is just got one bolt left have to take off the timing belt cover.

 

[Absit]

It looks like all the 1G 4G63s had the same oil filter housing and oil cooler (according to ASA), so it should drop right on.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Non-turbo cars didn't come with the oil cooler from the factory. If you pulled that from a true non-turbo vehicle, it had been swapped on along with the oil filter housing.

The non-turbo oil filter housings have a built-in, threaded boss for the filter to screw on to, as does the 1990 turbo housing; put another way, it is part of the casting. The later model turbo housings have a threaded hole for the oil cooler bolt to thread into while going through and holding the oil cooler in place.

I agree that all DSMs with a water-cooled oil cooler used the same water cooler. I do not agree that they all used the same housing (6-bolt vs. 7-bolt). All the same, if you pulled one from a true 7-bolt engine and it is in fact a turbo housing with oil cooler, it will work just fine.

 

[Absit]

I'm just reading off what ASA says, it could be right, it could be wrong, I've never owned a 1G N/T.

 

[19Eclipse90]

From ASA, I get the following (years represent model years, not build dates):

1990 N/T: MD132913
1990 T: MD132912
1991-1992 (6-bolt) N/T: MD132913
1991-1992 (6-bolt) T: MD157670
1992 (7-bolt)-1994 N/T: MD191753
1992 (7-bolt)-1994 T: MD189931

 

[Absit]

From ASA, I get the following (years represent model years, not build dates):

1990 N/T: MD132913
1990 T: MD132912
1991-1992 (6-bolt) N/T: MD132913
1991-1992 (6-bolt) T: MD157670
1992 (7-bolt)-1994 N/T: MD191753
1992 (7-bolt)-1994 T: MD189931

Interesting, your ASA-fu must be stronger than mine. Disregard my post then.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Interesting, your ASA-fu must be stronger than mine.

I have a lot of free time.

 

[nuclearr]

I have all the stuff to put a oil cooler in my bumper can i still do that? Will the N/T Housing have the line?

To run an air cooler you will need an evo3 ofh I just put one on my spyder.

 

[19Eclipse90]

To run an air cooler you will need an evo3 ofh I just put one on my spyder.

That is an option, and IMO a great way to do it, but it isn't absolutely necessary.

 

[Absit]

To run an air cooler you will need an evo3 ofh I just put one on my spyder.

That is an option, and IMO a great way to do it, but it isn't absolutely necessary.

Indeed, there are also sandwich adapters (you'll need an external thermostat usually) and the Evo 8/9 OFH works as well. The Evo 8/9 has the benefit of being down-facing. The Evo 3 oriented the same was as stock. If you use a sandwich adapter you may run in to exhaust clearance issues though.