obx FMIC kit

[nazthug]

ok, what happened to this company?

Since when does obx turn around from making rice parts to making LSD's, cams, manifolds, headers and NOW intercoolers, which are btw, EXACT replicas of APEXi????

I mean its almost as if they literally, take a product, CLONE it, and sell it for 1/3 the price

The products look nice, but WTF???

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how can you possibly do this? At these prices? Legally????

 

[98turbo]

We will see in due time......

 

[SikRacing97GST]

Ok finnally installed, email me for pictures and questions. Mine isn't AS crooked, but the bracket on the passanger side does need to be bent. I also agree with purchasing better quality couplings. I dont know how many times if pulled over putting the one to the turbo back on. I did feel a improvement in "get-up", and I beleive the kit is worth the money. They just need to fix some little things...

 

[Wanted:SWGSXAWD]

Anyone got any pics or helpful tips on installing the OBX side to side FMIC?

 

[98turbo]

Which side to side fmic? We have pics posted of one of them already....

 

[Wanted:SWGSXAWD]

It's this one from the same company, except it doesn't come with the pipes so it's just a bar and plate FMIC core only.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ry=33742&item=7956543577&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

 

[98turbo]

Link doesn't work, atleast for me....

 

[Wanted:SWGSXAWD]

Sorry about that, try it now

 

[99gst_racer]

That IC in the link actually looks nice. I wonder where they're getting their cores....

 

[Street Surgeon]

11 pages and no dyno numbers

Ah well... I think I should take just a moment to throw in my own 2 pennies as well.

1. Cost vs. Product Quality and/or Performance
This can be applied to whatever you like. There is always going to be a better product for more $$$ barnone. Do we always NEED to have the best product available? Sometimes we as consumers have to judge what is going to be a better bargain for our hard earned dollars. I'd venture to say that the average DSM enthusiasts are no millionaires, in fact our cars are widely viewed as "bang for the buck" performance cars themselves no? Sure, if it were feasible I'd be rocking a polished Victory Performance race FMIC with all the bells and whistles, but then again at this particular point in my life I don't have the 1450.00 to throw down on that bad boy. IMO this is a very decent deal for those who aren't going to be running 8's anytime soon. When it comes time to upgrade to something better it's perfectly feasible to sell it off and then upgrade to the nicer (read vendor manufactured) units. Actually, as I type that something comes to mind... What vendor offers something similar to this? I mean honestly.... If AMS, Victory, Bushur or any of the other reputable manufacturers put together a budget or midlevel FMIC kit and priced it accordingly would the consumer have any reason NOT to get theirs instead? Most of the FMIC applications from them start at the "street level" which generally means < 500hp, and then move on to their "race application" intercoolers which are for > 500hp cars. Where is the FMIC kit for the avg street enthusiast? Just some food for thought. The intercooler R&D isn't all that advanced honestly. Get a decent core, have some piping fabbed up and produce it!

2. Standing by the product, and buying from reputable manufacturers / shops.
Generally... I would much rather buy a product and spend a few bucks more with a reputable shop rather than get an "ebay special" I've personally been burned when trying to warranty an SAFCII (which I bought while these products were not even released in the US from an ebayer) after the thing fried. Yeah..... Not happening. Granted it was my own fault, but ya never know... It would have been nice to try and get her fixed. Had I waited and gotten it from my local shop, I guarantee it would have been taken care of immediately. Ya just can't overlook the service aspect of this stuff.

My own personal thoughts for this product is that it appears cheap as hell and I like my products to reflect the pride and hard work that I put in to my car. If there's a way to make more power and spend less money that's awesome... Matter of fact that's like the DSM creedo. You have to pick and choose what you're willing to risk though. For example I don't think a 3" SS Megan exhaust is a bad deal at all for what they're asking for it (practically nothing) and it's very unlikely that it'll disintegrate or become unservicable so I'd probably recommend that to any guy on a budget. I'm rambling.... Pick what's right for you.

 

[Eastwood95]

I just bought that OBX kit off ebay from conceptillusions. It took over 3 weeks to reach me by regular mail. I emailed them 3 times with no response in between. When i got to my house, i looked at it real quick and it looked ok, so I sent a positive feedback saying that I recieved what I ordered. A few days ago, I opened the box and started the install. Well, they sent me the correct I/C core, but sent me WRX piping and couplers. Plus there is NO hardware to mount the I/C. So be ready to do it yourself. It was stupid of me, but I didnt feel like dealing with waiting another 6 weeks to install it, so i went to the auto store bought a few more pipes and a hacksaw and made the piping myself. It all worked out ok I guess, and I can tell a nice difference in power, but I'm still upset at the company. Today I'm calling them to see if I can send them the pipes/couplers that I have left and get the piping I was supposed to get and see what they say.........................So, its a gamble of course to buy a cheaper product from an unknown shop/store that I was willing to take and of course It got messed up for me. I would have rather gotten a name brand, but I'm more of the bang for buck opinionated so thats what i chose. Thats the way it goes......

 

[99gst_racer]

Actually, as I type that something comes to mind... What vendor offers something similar to this? I mean honestly.... If AMS, Victory, Bushur or any of the other reputable manufacturers put together a budget or midlevel FMIC kit and priced it accordingly would the consumer have any reason NOT to get theirs instead?

IMO, they allready have. I paid $850 shipped for my SBR race FMIC kit.
Now look at the break down of the OBX. You initially pay $500. Then you have to spend another $120 on an UICP. Then another $80 for new silicon and t-bolt clamps. That puts you up to $700 for a crooked mounting, long route piping, generic core FMIC kit. When SBR's street set-up is only $799 shipped. With only a $100 difference, I'd say our DSM vendors are being competitive. And the difference in quality is uncomparable.

 

[Street Surgeon]

Not so fast here, I don't know where you're buying these silicone couplers and tbolts from, but here's a more realistic depiction...

OBX Ebay special = 500
UICP (Straight line specialties 2.5") = 100
You don't need "new silicone couplers" just tbolt clamps, which around these parts are 3.48 a pop.

All told you would be a tad over 600 for this kit. Would I get it? No. Is this a smokin' deal for the avg. enthusiast? Sure, as long as you're not gonna lose any sleep over the quality of the overall product.

I'd love to see more manufacturers put out a nice mid-level (400hp and less) intercooler and piping combo. Use a core similar to this one

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then fab up the piping for a 1 or 2G. The cores themselves are tried and true, all you would have to do would be to fab up some piping and brackets. I can't imagine the R&D on this would be terribly high, nor should the price of this kit. Like I said, most of the manufacturers are producing fantastic race products, but the avg. consumer isn't always pumping 500hp+ through their intercooler. It's like you cater only to a very fine crowd. This would be a great entry/mid level intercooler kit that has already been proven to work yet no one manufactures this kit. I think they're missing out. It's easy to produce only the baddes assed intercooler kits, price them at 1k ish and sell them sure. They're worth every penny too, but not always to the consumer. Hell that's why our cars were made! If I could have afforded a mkiv Supra at the time, I'd probably have one, but this car still has a lot of performance potential, and was a good bang for the buck purchase... That's what this all boils down to. Bang for the buck. I would much rather but this fairy-tale kit than the OBX, but no one produces it. Seems like someone's marketing staff needs to meet with their product engineers and get going.

BTW>>> I'd be more than happy to beta-test any of these kits just let me know

 

[blcknspo0ln]

what core is that !? I want a bigger version of the one i have now

 

[98turbo]

IMO, they allready have. I paid $850 shipped for my SBR race FMIC kit.
Now look at the break down of the OBX. You initially pay $500. Then you have to spend another $120 on an UICP. Then another $80 for new silicon and t-bolt clamps. That puts you up to $700 for a crooked mounting, long route piping, generic core FMIC kit. When SBR's street set-up is only $799 shipped. With only a $100 difference, I'd say our DSM vendors are being competitive. And the difference in quality is uncomparable.

You don't need new silicone couplers. You don't have to get t-bolt clamps, just advised. I paid $120 for an uicp and licp brand new already flanged. All you have to do is bend the mounting bracket a little to make it straight. It takes an extra 10 minutes to do. Also, you don't have to hack your bumper to death to make it fit.

 

[98turbo]

I just bought that OBX kit off ebay from conceptillusions. It took over 3 weeks to reach me by regular mail. I emailed them 3 times with no response in between. When i got to my house, i looked at it real quick and it looked ok, so I sent a positive feedback saying that I recieved what I ordered. A few days ago, I opened the box and started the install. Well, they sent me the correct I/C core, but sent me WRX piping and couplers. Plus there is NO hardware to mount the I/C. So be ready to do it yourself. It was stupid of me, but I didnt feel like dealing with waiting another 6 weeks to install it, so i went to the auto store bought a few more pipes and a hacksaw and made the piping myself. It all worked out ok I guess, and I can tell a nice difference in power, but I'm still upset at the company. Today I'm calling them to see if I can send them the pipes/couplers that I have left and get the piping I was supposed to get and see what they say.........................So, its a gamble of course to buy a cheaper product from an unknown shop/store that I was willing to take and of course It got messed up for me. I would have rather gotten a name brand, but I'm more of the bang for buck opinionated so thats what i chose. Thats the way it goes......

I bought mine from the same guys and they sent it to me in like a week and a half and it was the right one....

 

[97TSIAWD]

what core is that !? I want a bigger version of the one i have now

Same here, looks like the sparco core that is on my car now. I know KilurV8 has a huge top to bottom that fills the whole space, I believe he had to get rid of his foglamps too. Check out his site on where he got that intercooler.

 

[SikRacing97GST]

I got mine a week after i talked to them, I got the right one. Oh by the way if someone can host the pictures, I have some. Pretty straight but thats after i bent the brack with a bench vice. Oh and dont over tightn the left bracket by the foglight. I think i snapped 3 bolts and had to use the easy out. I think its good for the money, well everyone here in knoxville seems to like it. I felt gains. But we will see when i come up with $150 to dyno the thing.....

 

[98turbo]

Mine will be dynoed saturday morning....for $65...

 

[jaredo]

just bought mine, im more interested in the actual intake temp readings. My intake temp was 110 on my sidemount yesterday.. at night

 

[98turbo]

Ok, I finally dynoed, here are the numbers:

Before- 182 hp; 204tq
After- 197 hp; 220tq

I should have a video up of the dyno in about a day or two, I'll label it "obx fmic dyno".

 

[95Eclipsers]

I dint think you would get that much of a gain to the wheels from just the intercooler

did your raise the boost?

 

[99gst_racer]

Ok, I finally dynoed, here are the numbers:

Before- 182 hp; 204tq
After- 197 hp; 220tq

I should have a video up of the dyno in about a day or two, I'll label it "obx fmic dyno".

What kind of Dyno were you using? Also, what was the altitude and air temp?
How many PSI of boost were you pushing each run?

Not really calling BS or anything, but most stock DSM's with a mod list like yours only hit about 165 HP.....

"Full intake, 10.2mm wires, prothane motor mounts, obx fmic with all piping....that's it so far"

 

[Denji]

I havent actually seen the dyno sheets, but 98turbo did call me after both of those dyno runs and give me the numbers he got. 98turbo, you should just let me scan up your dynosheets so that there will be no question about the numbers.

 

[98turbo]

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Here, I hope this helps. I don't have the other sheet on here because I don't have a scanner, but I can show Denji and he can verify. As far as the other info, I don't know our altitude, but I live in Virginia Beach. Temperature was about 75 and I'm on stock boost. I dynoed high for my baseline as stated before because I had the everything on it but the fmic. Oh yeah, all these pulls are from 4th, don't know if that's odd or normal,but just a little FYI......

 

[krlyuzh]

yeah those numbers are what they really were....i personally took the car to the dyno, watch them dyno it, filmed it, and took the graph along with a disk with graphs....ill be postin up the video soon if you still doubt this.