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[rxcarguy1212]

I'm just curious what the ideal shot of nitrous would be to run on my car.

I have a rebuilt 6 bolt, stock...2000 miles. What's the maximum shot of nitrous I can run, without much risk...I don't want to blow my motor.

 

[LTUDSM]

well first of all just make your car run right way i mean first of all upgrade turbo,injectors,exhaust,intake some fuel controller, like SAFCII or Dsmlink,Intercooler,and then if youre not gonna be satisfied how the car will run with those mods that i just mentioned,the put Nitrous and call it a day....
i don't know why people buy cars and first thing what they want to do is just put NOS

 

[freshlane]

50 shot is ideal but i was running a 75shot on my non-turbo (turbo might have different tolerances/side effects). I say go with a ZEX kit also. Much less of the headache. Good Luck


ps. NOS is a company. Nitrous is the word you are looking for in your title

 

[JaxTalonTSi]

well first of all just make your car run right way i mean first of all upgrade turbo,injectors,exhaust,intake some fuel controller, like SAFCII or Dsmlink,Intercooler,and then if youre not gonna be satisfied how the car will run with those mods that i just mentioned,the put Nitrous and call it a day....
i don't know why people buy cars and first thing what they want to do is just put NOS

You have to upgrade your turbo and injectors to run nitrous?

Dollar to hp, no modification is going to yeild as significant of a gain as nitrous oxide. We ran an almost bone stock 90 FWD Laser with the following mods:

Unbolted exahust
manual boost controler set to 18-19lbs
crushed 1g bov
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump
Aeromotive AFPR
Datalogger
Nytrex wet nitrous kit with 80hp shot jets

We logged this car and ran it on 100 octane, and it pulled harder than most 20g cars that I've been in. Not to mention, it did not knock and was running 17-20 degrees of overall timing on the logger.

Nitrous oxide is probably one of the best mods you can do, you just have to be realistic. I WOULD NOT do any modification without a logger setup or program like DSMLink, and at least a fuel pump and regulator.

 

[gsxeclipse97]

Well your wish list consist of a t28 so im going to say that you are still running on a stock turbo. There are many more things you can do before you start adding nitrous. after you upgrade these things you may feel that you don't even need it anymore. You may also want to look into water injection to see if those peak you intrest more.

 

[lenny 15]

another thing. nitrous will always wear out your motor much faster than if you dont have it. 6 months useing nitrous is like 3 years wear on your motor.

 

[gsxeclipse97]

You have to upgrade your turbo and injectors to run nitrous?

Dollar to hp, no modification is going to yeild as significant of a gain as nitrous oxide. We ran an almost bone stock 90 FWD Laser with the following mods:

Unbolted exahust
manual boost controler set to 18-19lbs
crushed 1g bov
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump
Aeromotive AFPR
Datalogger
Nytrex wet nitrous kit with 80hp shot jets

We logged this car and ran it on 100 octane, and it pulled harder than most 20g cars that I've been in. Not to mention, it did not knock and was running 17-20 degrees of overall timing on the logger.

Nitrous oxide is probably one of the best mods you can do, you just have to be realistic. I WOULD NOT do any modification without a logger setup or program like DSMLink, and at least a fuel pump and regulator.

Yeah that a 1g the 2g is very different also with a stock turbo on a 1g is much better than the t25. There would be no point for him to add nitrous to a t25 when the turbo can't even keep up with the motor as is.

 

[JaxTalonTSi]

another thing. nitrous will always wear out your motor much faster than if you dont have it. 6 months useing nitrous is like 3 years wear on your motor.

But lots of boost, bolt ons ect won't put added stress?

Yeah that a 1g the 2g is very different also with a stock turbo on a 1g is much better than the t25. There would be no point for him to add nitrous to a t25 when the turbo can't even keep up with the motor as is.

True, a T25 is a joke, even compared to the 14b, but it's not like the boost levels we were on on the 14b weren't rendering it less of a hairdryer either. Your relying mostly on nitrous, obviously.

What I found amazing with the spray was that it made the 14b feel like a 50trim. Instead of falling on it's face at 6500rpm, the car pulled hard all the way to redline, and pulled hard. It just makes everything efficiant.

 

[GVR4592]

The size of the turbo has nothing to do with how large of a nitrous shot he can use.

If it was me and I was on a tight budget, I would get a Walbro 190, an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, BPR7ES plugs, a datalogger and a wet nitrous kit jetted for a 50 shot. I think near stock boost levels and a 50 shot would work pretty well together, just make sure you monitor knock closely.

 

[gsxeclipse97]

But lots of boost, bolt ons ect won't put added stress?



True, a T25 is a joke, even compared to the 14b, but it's not like the boost levels we were on on the 14b weren't rendering it less of a hairdryer either. Your relying mostly on nitrous, obviously.

What I found amazing with the spray was that it made the 14b feel like a 50trim. Instead of falling on it's face at 6500rpm, the car pulled hard all the way to redline, and pulled hard. It just makes everything efficiant.

Well bolt ons really don't hurt the car, exhaust for example help the motor breath easer intake as well. A light weight flywheel also take more stress off the engine.. I would say running 25 psi on a big ass turbo would put more stress than adding minor things..

I don't know about 1g but my 14b holds boost to redline normally the t25 on the other hand couldn't stay up after 5500 pulls hard all the way. I would say that its impressive but ive never been in a car that had a turbo bigger than a big 16g so i have no idea how that would feel.

 

[GVR4592]

Well bolt ons really don't hurt the car, exhaust for example help the motor breath easer intake as well. A light weight flywheel also take more stress off the engine.. I would say running 25 psi on a big ass turbo would put more stress than adding minor things..

I don't know about 1g but my 14b holds boost to redline normally the t25 on the other hand couldn't stay up after 5500 pulls hard all the way. I would say that its impressive but ive never been in a car that had a turbo bigger than a big 16g so i have no idea how that would feel.

Why are you even posting in this thread if you have no experience in these matters? Maybe you should read the rules before you post again.

 

[luvmygst]

another thing. nitrous will always wear out your motor much faster than if you dont have it. 6 months useing nitrous is like 3 years wear on your motor.

Nitrous is the most misunderstood power adder that there is. NItrous does the same thing that a turbo does it ads extra oxygen to burn so you can make more power. THere is a person on here running 10.99 with the stock t-25 and spraying.(not a stock motor of course) but it on the t-25 and its a gst! I will try to find the post and put up a link.

 

[JaxTalonTSi]

The size of the turbo has nothing to do with how large of a nitrous shot he can use.

If it was me and I was on a tight budget, I would get a Walbro 190, an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, BPR7ES plugs, a datalogger and a wet nitrous kit jetted for a 50 shot. I think near stock boost levels and a 50 shot would work pretty well together, just make sure you monitor knock closely.

Exactly!

When we first installed the kit, I was a bit weary, so we only ran the car on 100 or 110 octane, and watched the knock and timing. I also put in some BPR8ESs, but they prooved not to work to well and fouled out easily, so we put the BPR7ESs back in, and they worked out much better.

 

[LTUDSM]

i meant that put those mods first (that i listed above) instead nitrous 4 now, it would be way safer and better for you car then nitrous

You have to upgrade your turbo and injectors to run nitrous?

Dollar to hp, no modification is going to yeild as significant of a gain as nitrous oxide. We ran an almost bone stock 90 FWD Laser with the following mods:

Unbolted exahust
manual boost controler set to 18-19lbs
crushed 1g bov
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump
Aeromotive AFPR
Datalogger
Nytrex wet nitrous kit with 80hp shot jets

We logged this car and ran it on 100 octane, and it pulled harder than most 20g cars that I've been in. Not to mention, it did not knock and was running 17-20 degrees of overall timing on the logger.

Nitrous oxide is probably one of the best mods you can do, you just have to be realistic. I WOULD NOT do any modification without a logger setup or program like DSMLink, and at least a fuel pump and regulator.

 

[rxcarguy1212]

I should have mentioned. I know that you have to upgrade the rest of that motor, before tossing nitrous on. My wishlist was a T28, now I have a T28, A'pexi Intercooler, HKS 272 cams, custom 4" intake, DSMLink, 550cc injectors, Blitz Boost controller, Walbro fuel pump, the works.

So, now..after all that. i want a little more power...I want to know what shot of nitrous offers the most power without alot of risk.

 

[rxcarguy1212]

I read the rules, I know what I have to do before upgrading to nitrous. I have experience in this matters...just not with nitrous. SO...PLEASE mr. wiseman, if your just gunna reply with this kind of power trip bull sh*t...maybe keep it to yourself??? Cool?

Why are you even posting in this thread if you have no experience in these matters? Maybe you should read the rules before you post again.

 

[rxcarguy1212]

So, before anybody else asks. Yes, I bought that 6 bolt 4g63 completely stock, with 2000 miles. I forgot to mention the upgrades, but now you have them. So can someone who knows a thing or 2 about nitrous...please tell me what's the biggest shot I can safely run on this motor?

 

[GVR4592]

I read the rules, I know what I have to do before upgrading to nitrous. I have experience in this matters...just not with nitrous. SO...PLEASE mr. wiseman, if your just gunna reply with this kind of power trip bull sh*t...maybe keep it to yourself??? Cool?

I wasn't referring to you when I said that, read it again. And I already told you what size of a shot to start with in post #9.

 

[rxcarguy1212]

Oh shit..sorry man. I was just pissed off readin everything else. I apologize.

I wasn't referring to you when I said that, read it again.

 

[dsm-onster]

I read the rules, I know what I have to do before upgrading to nitrous. I have experience in this matters...just not with nitrous. SO...PLEASE mr. wiseman, if your just gunna reply with this kind of power trip bull sh*t...maybe keep it to yourself??? Cool?

What a moronic thing to say to someone who likely knows alot more than you and likely has much more experience. I'd be glad he were reading this thread! He wasn't even talking to you and was steering the thread away from misinformation.

A little research would have yielded what hp a 6-bolt can handle. Answering the question "what amount of nitrous coupled w/ proper fuel supply would yield results close to the max a 6-bolt can handle?" is now your responsibility.

Next time you remark about a "power trip" realize that you are attempting to push an engine beyond its factory specifications for "power". Why are you doing that? Do you like the feeling? What a "power trip"!

EDIT: you're last post clears this mess up. . . Thank you for replying.

 

[rxcarguy1212]

I know, I apologized. After reading that he was actually turning people away that were saying that kind of stuff that was making me mad, I felt like a jerk.

I have been doing research, and I can't get a straight answer, I get different answers from any place i look.

And the nitrous is just a little something extra..when I need it.

What a moronic thing to say to someone who likely knows alot more than you and likely has much more experience. I'd be glad he were reading this thread! He wasn't even talking to you and was steering the thread away from misinformation.

A little research would have yielded what hp a 6-bolt can handle. Answering the question "what amount of nitrous coupled w/ proper fuel supply would yield results close to the max a 6-bolt can handle?" is now your responsibility.

Next time you remark about a "power trip" realize that you are attempting to push an engine beyond its factory specifications for "power". Why are you doing that? Do you like the feeling? What a "power trip"!

EDIT: you're last post clears this mess up. . . Thank you for replying.

 

[dsm-onster]

I know, I apologized. After reading that he was actually turning people away that were saying that kind of stuff that was making me mad, I felt like a jerk.

I have been doing research, and I can't get a straight answer, I get different answers from any place i look.

And the nitrous is just a little something extra..when I need it.

It's ok. lots of guys would defend their "honor" to the end instead of admit to a simple mistake .

A 6-bolt has been known to handle 500-550 whp as a daily driver, IF you don't rev it to kingdom-come. Nitous will help w/ that. How much nitrous is neccesary (considering you have enough fuel mods!) for reaching such hp levels is the question. I do not know the nozzle size for such.

 

[Gs Dewd]

A 75 shot is the max you want to run. You will be safer though running a 50 shot. I currently am running a 75 shot on mine with no probs but I have a built engine and running a 16g. I'd say start with a 50 shot and call it a day. Also I am running a nx wet kit and love it. Easy to install.