Need to get in touch with Eclipse manufacturer - how?

[GeeZuzz]

Does anyone know how i can get in contact with the Eclipse manufacturer located in Normal Illinois/USA ? I've tried googling, but i can't find any website/contact information.

 

[AWDtsi1995]

Why do you need to get in contact with them? Maybe we can help?

and no I dont know how.

 

[RamenPride]

I highly doubt you'll be able to call the manufacturing plant in Illinois... I would try this:
http://www.mitsubishimotors.com/MMNA/jsp/contact.do

 

[No_Skillz]

He's probably going to complain about what a shitty product they made.

 

[blackbyrd]

He's probably going to complain about what a shitty product they made.

 

[Zmann42087]

Does anyone know how i can get in contact with the Eclipse manufacturer located in Normal Illinois/USA ? I've tried googling, but i can't find any website/contact information.

Behold, the birthplace of all DSMs...

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The (former) DSM factory in Bloomington-Normal, IL is less than an hour from my house. I've been by there a couple times... most recently for MOD '06.

Anyways, why do you need to get a hold of them?

Here are a couple links... MMNA official site DSM/MMNA wikipedia info

 

[dave99gst]

the manufacturer would be Mitsubishi - they were mearly assembled in Normal-

 

[Defiant]

They're a ghost. DSM went away in ......'94? Chrysler took over the plant. Mitsubishi won't know their product, because they're not building and selling it this week.

 

[GeeZuzz]

The reason i need to contact them, is because i need someone there, who actually know the technical details, to confirm that a EU and USA version of 1998 Eclipse GS is very similar technically (both EU and USA versions are built there).

They are right? If exhaust levels, braking lengths, sound levels etc are tested on a EU-version - the same results would apply for a USA version?

Thanks for links Zmann42087

 

[steve]

The USDM 2G non-turbo cars have a completely different powertrain than the EU version.
You get a non-turbo 4G63 based car where in the US we got stuck with the Chrysler 420A.

So your specs aren't going to apply to a US version.

Steve

 

[GeeZuzz]

The USDM 2G non-turbo cars have a completely different powertrain than the EU version.

Are you 100% sure that this applies to this spesific car: 1998 GS ?

I got the US version btw.

Edit:

There was a unique version of the 2G Eclipse sold in some European countries. It used a normally-aspirated Mitsubishi 4G63 motor, similar to what was available in the 1G, unique sideview mirrors, and unique amber rear turn signals.

"in some european countries" - do they mean that this "unique" version was only sold in some european countries, or that all the european countries that had the car, had this unique version? As in all versions of the car with amber rear turn signals also have different motor?

 

[95RedTsiAwd]

Real easy to figure out which engine you have.

Stand in front of the car looking at the motor. If the engine is on the right and the transmission on the left, you have a 4g63 EU car. If the engine is on the left with the transmission on the right, then you have the US Chrysler 420a engine.

 

[drivemusicnow]

If you were to take some pictures of the engine, interior/exterior, We could probably tell you anything you needed to know about the car.

You say you have the US version... How do you know that, and then why would you expect it to have the 4g63?

 

[TalonESIT]

Real easy to figure out which engine you have.

Stand in front of the car looking at the motor. If the engine is on the right and the transmission on the left, you have a 4g63 EU car. If the engine is on the left with the transmission on the right, then you have the US Chrysler 420a engine.

He is right. The 4g63 motor and the 420a motor are mirrored. If you are looking at your engine bay and the intake is on the driver's side, then you have the 420a motor. If your intake is on the passenger side, then your sporting the nt 4g63 motor. It is very simple to see.

The first picture is a 4g63 motor (although turbo, notice the side of the intake, it's the same for the nt 4g63).

The second picture is of a 420a motor, intake on driver's side.

Hope this helps...

 

[GeeZuzz]

Mine is like the one on the right picture - because the car was bought in USA.

But what i wonder is - do ALL Eclipses sold in Europe have the different motor?

I'll give you the full story on why i'm asking:

I bought my car from USA. In my country though, there are stupid rules, and the state wants to decide what cars we drive. So they make it hard to import the nice cars that are not initially sold in our country (like Eclipse for instance).

To be able to register the car, i must provide some serious documentation from a labarotory that states that my car satisfies the requirements of our laws regarding exhaust, noise, braking length, weight etc.

I then contacted TÜV in germany, who is probably Europe's biggest company on testing cars and stuff. They had done tests on Eclipse, and could provide me with a $200 document that confirmed that it passed these tests.

Everything seemed fine, and the inspectors approved the document. Then while i was fixing some other minor problems, they had got information that my document may not be correct afterall.

Reason is that TÜV have only done tests on the Europe version of the car, but according to their experience, the USA and EU version were very similar - so there were no need to do seperate tests on the US version of the car.

And because the inspectors can't get it verified that they are similar, theres no way they will let me get licence plates on my car.

So according to you, they are actually right about this? The differences are so big that you can't even compare weights, exhaust, braking lengths etc?

 

[blackbyrd]

Got this :
There was a unique version of the 2G Eclipse sold in some European countries. It used a normally-aspirated Mitsubishi 4G63 motor, similar to what was available in the 1G, unique sideview mirrors, and unique amber rear turn signals.
out of here: http://www.answers.com/topic/mitsubishi-eclipse
or out of here: http://www.autohausaz.com/mitsubishi-auto-parts/mitsubishi-eclipse-parts.html
and of course: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Eclipse
http://dsm.labattz.com/nt-dsm/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96&start=15&sid=c462d3d192282bfa0d323e8bfd2299b6
http://dsm.labattz.com/nt-dsm/forum/viewtopic.php?t=145&highlight=europe

Don't think that helps you anymore, but it's the best information I could find for you in 5 minutes on google.

EDIT: Aren't there places that will actually test your specific vehicle?

 

[TalonESIT]

The suspension components on the nt cars are the same, it is mainly the engine and the transmission. Almost like comparing the US GST to the GS. The motors are different, as are the trannies (meaning the placement of items like the coolant resevoir, power steering, battery...etc are different), but everything else is similar (even the exhaust pipe route).


You may have to contact the general corporation of mitsubishi and ask them for guidance, as far as who to call for the appropriate documentation.