Need some help please

[TJCTalon]

Hey guys,

So I have a situation. I got in a small wreck a while back and im just now finding the extent of the damage.
This is how my talon sits. Its in the garage on jackstands. A bolt that holds the subframe up broke off into the body. So you guys know what that means. Drive shaft and Tcase have to go. Maybe even more things need to get removed to drop the subframe. Im not sure...

Im a 17 year old high school student. I have money saved up and im trying to explore my options.
Should i get her fixed? I have a strong emotional attatchment to this car. I bought her by myself. My first car.
Or should i part her out?
Do you guys even think someone would buy it as it is?

Would i make more money if i part it out?

I havnt got any quotes on how much it would cost to fix. Since i cant do it myself. Would this considered body work still? Its hard to get a quote since its not moving anywhere. Plus i dont know of any good shops around my area.

Pardon all my questions. I just have alot to do and i want my car back. I MISS BOOST!
Thanks,
Taran

 

[gofer]

There are (4) bolts holding up your subframe, which one is it that busted off in the frame? I'll show you EXACTLY how to fix it and you don't even need to take off the back tires. Just tell me the EXACT bolt it was... With this info why sell it, thats like parting out a car because you burnt out a tail light.

Was it bolt 1,2,3, or 4? (the picture was taken from the driverside rear wheel well, so the front of the car is to the left and the rear is to the right.)

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[TJCTalon]

I may be mistaken but i thought the subframe was in the front.

Okay since apparently i dont know the name of it, i will describe it.

The frame im talking about goes from the drivers side to the passenger side. in the front. It links suspension. Both the driveshaft and the t case are in the way from removing it. im not sure if there is anything else in the way.

Its the very first bolt closest to the drivers side suspension.

 

[belalerede]

You are correct it is the sub-frame in the front. I need to know if the bolt hole in the subframe and where the broken piece of bolt still in the car still line up or not? Specificall, when you are directly underneath the subframe looking up can you see all of the edges of the broken bolt.? Also pics of the area would be helpful.i have never owned an AWD but I have owned anr repaired over 678 cars in the past 9 years so I can probably get you back on the road.

 

[TJCTalon]

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As you can see the holes do not line up. Im not sure of all the things that need to come out to drop this. ALOT of work
The first pic is of where the bolt should be. the holes are no where close to lining up. but still not enough room to remove the broken bolt

 

[belalerede]

I belive the part tht is not ligning up has the power steering rack going thru it correct?

Also can you include a pic of where the car was hit and am I correct to assume the broken bolt is on the drivers side?

 

[gofer]

I may be mistaken but i thought the subframe was in the front.

Okay since apparently i dont know the name of it, i will describe it.

The frame im talking about goes from the drivers side to the passenger side. in the front. It links suspension. Both the driveshaft and the t case are in the way from removing it. im not sure if there is anything else in the way.

Its the very first bolt closest to the drivers side suspension.

Your correct, there is a subframe in the front but there is also one in the rear of the car called the rear subframe. When you said driveshaft/transfer case had to be removed in your OP I assumed you were talking about the rear subframe.

The fix that I had for you won't be as simple I had originally told you since its the front and not the rear. If it were the rear subframe you could have come at the bolt from the top, then just dropped a replacement in the existing hole. Since thats not the case your more than likely going to need to get an "easy out" bolt extractor. It still would make no sense selling your car because of it though, its just one more headache thats all.

 

[TJCTalon]

I belive the part tht is not ligning up has the power steering rack going thru it correct?

Also can you include a pic of where the car was hit and am I correct to assume the broken bolt is on the drivers side?

In picture 3 the thing that is hanging bolts up directly behind the broken bolt.
This is what happened. I was speeding through a residential neighborhood when i lost control, my breaks locked up and i slid into a yard and hit a fire hydrant. All that was hit was my front drivers side wheel. It then pushed the entire rim back into the wheel well. And thats how the bolt broke. everything is taken apart so a picture wouldnt tell you much.

The fix that I had for you won't be as simple I had originally told you since its the front and not the rear. If it were the rear subframe you could have come at the bolt from the top, then just dropped a replacement in the existing hole. Since thats not the case your more than likely going to need to get an "easy out" bolt extractor. It still would make no sense selling your car because of it though, its just one more headache thats all.

Yes thats what i was going to try until i realized what needs to be removed in order to just see the bolt. I wouldnt be suprised if the engine would need to be removed. Alot of work

 

[belalerede]

In picture 3 the thing that is hanging bolts up directly behind the broken bolt.
This is what happened. I was speeding through a residential neighborhood when i lost control, my breaks locked up and i slid into a yard and hit a fire hydrant. All that was hit was my front drivers side wheel. It then pushed the entire rim back into the wheel well. And thats how the bolt broke. everything is taken apart so a picture wouldnt tell you much.

The part that the piece thats hanging down bolts in to I believe contains your power steering rack as well as your front sway bar. Correct? If so that piece is removable from under the car. engine removal is not necesssary. Howerver it is a pain to get out if you have an all wheel drive. Can you post pictures of That entire assembly so that I can see what is in your way. That piece is replacable and in all likley hood you do not have any severe damage just a lot of wrench turning to do.

 

[TJCTalon]

Yes your correct. It is the part that has the front sway bar attatched to it.
And i do have AWD so theres alot of work involved. Im just not sure how much work. The frame itself is fine. It just needs to be removed because the bolt thats broken isnt reachable.

 

[belalerede]

Have you measured it and compares the measurment to the other side. The reason I say this is that if your wheel pushed back and the bolt broke something is bent. This will cause an alignment problem once you get the bolt back in. the rear drive shaft and the transfer case should not be hard to pull. Make sure that you mark the driveshaft and the T case before you take them apart as if you don't get them back together the same it will cause a vibration. You will need to pull the passenger side axle first.

 

[TJCTalon]

Ohh im sure i will have some narly alignment issues.
Im taking the car to a body shop next week to see if there is any frame damage.

 

[belalerede]

If you are going to do that I would just put it temporarily together as best you can and let them do it.

 

[gofer]

Ohh im sure i will have some narly alignment issues.
Im taking the car to a body shop next week to see if there is any frame damage.

Our cars don't have a "frame" its a "unibody" and will require a special body shop to work on it if it is tweeked. The good news is it that it sounds like that bolt and your front subframe took the hit so everything thats bent is replaceable. Once its all fixed and taken care of don't drive like a jack ass next time, especially since it was residential... what if your kid out there playing basketball in the street and you watched him get smoke checked by a 17 yr old driving a GSX? Not here to lecture you but your lucky you just sheared off a bolt.

Frame vs Uni-body

 

[TJCTalon]

Thanks "dad"

Trust me i get enough shit from my own parents and my family. I know it was dumb. But the circumstances were different. Theres other things wrong with my car that definitely helped the situation. I could try to explain myself but its pointless. Trust me i know i made a mistake. Wont happen again.

okay now then, if i find out that my unibody is crumpled bad and its gonna cost me an arm and a leg, what do you guys think i should do from there?

Find a shell and try a swap?
Part out?

Or any other ideas are welcomed.

Thanks,
Taran