Need help ASAP (starer plate_IO

[turboglenn]

I found out i'm eagint starters because my FWd plate allowsthe startedto move over time.. Wlel i havean oldstarter plate fgroma 6 boilt AWD, and thehosle arenn't "off" really,the justmakethe startr turn toa better angle in relation to the flywheel; and ineedthe cr going,

Anyone ever done this,jhere's a pic with it on the 2Gtrans...
the two dowels are in and the top bell housing bolrs are in perfect alingn in this pic, the same variation iswhen comparing it to the proper 2g AWD plate (wehich i now have)

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edit:update I good friend who's got to be the maturest young DSM'er I've ever met brought mea 2g AWD starter plate and I WAS right, you can use a 1g n/t ot 1g turbo AWD to pujt a 6 bolt onto a 2g AWD trans,


The gap talked aobut on the daitiator side is webbed in and cna't let anything into the flywheel area, and the main starter hole is in the EXACTR samespotas the 2g plate, just the starter is rotated which wouldrequire taking about 1/16th an inch from the top of one hole and 1/16th from the bottome of the other to rotate it so the starters opening is in exact relation tothe flywheel

Since i'm pulling the flywheel to do this work anyway, i'm going to go ahead and replace the rear main sleal while i'm at it.

edit#2 forgot to hend send earlier.. trans is out again, flywheeland clutch removed (old ACT is great shapestill ) and i''m woking on th rear main seals and its' housing now

one thing i want to CONFIRM is that the N/T FWD 1g starte plate and the 1g AWD starter plate (both manauls of course) have a plate that will fit the 6 bolt in a 2g swap with 2g AWD trans perfectly with just a slight (1.16th) oblonvged on opposite end of the mounting holse as described above.. I verified this with the flywheel put back on with a cut up bell housing and the 2 g start,it cranked and engaged perfect, I"ll get pics up later as i'm rushing to finish nowl, just needed to cool down and on doc's order am not supposed to be out of bed for 48 hours friom 8 amthis morning but what can i say

 

[fonzi90Tsi]

Good to know!!

Hey are you drunk again. (spelling)

 

[turboglenn]

No,idont drink hardly at all, one time revently, but ihave a bad keyboard and major nerfve damage, I can try for the same key 6-10 times and hit the wrong one everytiomewhen iv'e strainedmy hands and nerves in my back, Ishake like i have parkinsons sometimes

 

[fonzi90Tsi]

I know. I was joking. Sorry if I offened you. Thats why writing is a hard way to express feeling without the right grammar.

 

[Tiki2777]

I'm glad you got that going again, sorry I couldn't hear anything on the phone, had shit going all kinds of places.
how'd you get that plate?

 

[turboglenn]

I know. I was joking. Sorry if I offened you. Thats why writing is a hard way to express feeling without the right grammar.

IT's pretty hard to offend me really, I take most things in jest and blow off things or will answer in a way to check if some one is meaning offense, then i laugh but i'll strike back ...no worries

I'm glad you got that going again, sorry I couldn't hear anything on the phone, had shit going all kinds of places.
how'd you get that plate?

A good friend i know (much younger guy) who's really mature and listens to adivice rather thann acting like a know it all (why i hang out with him) well his dad owns a wrecker service and he buys up totaled eclipses and 3kGT's that peopledon't choose to buy back when totaled..

I help him out a lot for p[retty much no charge because he's always been giving me prety much free parts if he has em in trade for tuning, turbo stuff, welding or whatever. well he looked and low and behold had one...

 

[turboglenn]

after finally getting everything back together and getting the final checks on all the bolts performed, fluids topped off and everything else i have to say to anyone contemplating modding a FWD starter plate when doing an AWD swap..Don't DO IT!!!!!!!!! It may work a little while but but eventaully the starter moves away from the flywheel and starts to tear up starters and worse case flyweheel ring gear.

And as mentioned, the 1g N/t FWD and 1g AWD turbo starter plates are the same and will both work with minimal change to the starter botl holes... the starter is in the correct place, but the starter is rotated on the 1g parts, and it's less than a 1/8th inch of rotation you have to file into the holes of the 1g plates. And contrary to what i've read, it does NOT leave an opening for trash to get into the clutch flywheel, the tranny has a webbing there that still mates up and blocks off the area just fine.. Had i not received the 2g AWD plate from a friend I would be using the 1g unit (which i'm hanging onto just in case)

But the most notable part about putting the correct plate in, is that even whenusing a modded FWD plate with the starter workingt properly, the sound of the starters are 100 times different... with the proper plate the operation is almost dead silent, with the wrong plate modified the starter is always pretty loud even when working properly.

since the AWD swap, i've been kinda let down with the amount of failures i've had (mostly starters, went through 5 warranty ones and 2 used ones), I don't think i'm gonna have any issues at this point but i'll update as things go along.

Sorry i didn't take a pic of the 2g AWD plate compared to the plate for a 1g AWD or n/t FWD (turbo FWD is different) but the pic above of the 1g plate on the 2g trans is pretty much showing what little difference there is

and even on STM's website and on the old saved version of the magnus 1gina2g swap they show modding the 1g plate instead of swapping plates out (but this was back when the swap first came out) and even on STM's website the description of the 1g plate says "even works on some 6 bolt swaps depending on transmission" (i'm assuming meaning AWD )