Most Hp Eclipse

[ROBERT224466]

does anyone know how many hp eclipse can have ??????? anybody heard of a 1000hp eclipse or something im just wondering if eclipse could be so fast

 

[Templisk]

Depends on the circumstances. FWD, or AWD in FWD mode will be capable of putting out higher numbers to the wheels on a dyno than a standard AWD.

And the 4g63 (turbo motor) can dish out quite a bit more horsepower than the 420a (the non-turbo)
There is a tech guide here on the site showing step by step the common, tried and true ways to raise your horsepower safely and effectively. With an estimated $8500 or so you can reach 400 whp (2g) which is just a starting point, after tuning your car to that point you should have learned enough about how the car works to muster more horsepower out of it.

There is a *daily driven* Talon TSi AWD owned by David Tapp (same thing as an Eclipse GSX) that was dynoed at 707 horsepower at the wheels (in FWD mode) and there are timeslips posted of him running a 10.0 1/4 mile. The only changes he makes is upping the boost, and race gas. There's a video of the dyno run in the movies section, here: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177315

And Jon Shepherd's 1g is around 700 whp, though it's a track only car.
Somewhere I heard a rumor it was around 1,000 maybe at the crank

Edited for clarification in regards to Shepherd's Talon

 

[igopoopy]

http://www.shepracing.com/sr_dragtalon.html

http://www.osofastracing.com/osofastracing/gallery.htm

 

[ROBERT224466]

im talking about any eclipse. so its possible to have 1000hp. ok

hey i have another question - I’m under the impression that eclipse is one of the easiest gaining hp cars. Even the small upgrades have bigger hp gain than other cars right ????????

 

[igopoopy]

yes......in a turbo model

 

[Templisk]

DSMs are tuner cars, to get the most out of your engine you have to tune it, rather than throw on a huge turbo, exhaust, cams and so on.

The parts help, but that's not what DSMs are. And it's not fair to compare DSMs to every single other car out there and say which one gains horsepower the easiest or for the least cost.

 

[JoeWagon]

And Jon Shepherd's 1g is around 700 whp, though it's a track only car.
Somewhere I heard a rumor it was around 1,000 maybe at the crank

Edited for clarification in regards to Shepherd's Talon

More like 850+whp and 1000+ crank horsepower.

1. How do you think a 707whp (in FWD mode no less) car does a 10.0 second 1/4 mile, then shep runs mid 8's and you say he makes less power?

2. Dyno shows shep at ~675whp when he was running 10's. In the 8's, you can bet your ass 800's is more like it.

It is NOT a track only car.

His car, the 1991 Eagle Talon pictured, is used as a sometime daily driver but remains capable of turning high 9s down the quarter mile, without any track-day modifications and on the same street radials that get Shepherd to and from work. It is, in fact, the first street-class car to run in the 9s since the IDRC changed its rules to allow only radial tires in competition.

 

[tstkl]

he put on drag radials to make it into 8 seconds, and also on their site it says his car had like 6xx hp at the wheels before he did some major change, i forgot what, so 850 isnt irrealistic, although part of me doubts it...with street legal tires it runs a low 9 second quarter....

 

[armandovivoni]

here were i live there is a galant vr4. same engine as eclipse 4g63 with 750hp awd to the wheels. street car. and he runs 10.25 at the quarter mile at 148mph. shep has to have much more than that! only chek the mph he does on the quarter mile and that will give you an idea.

 

[igopoopy]

8.76@165mph record setting pass

 

[ACKERSON]

extreme motorsports is claiming 1200 crank on their car. So thats somewhere between 850 and 950 to the wheels depending on drivetrain losses.

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

As many of us know, Brent Rau probably has one of the highest if not the highest HP 4g63 "eclipse" out there, RWD, FWD, AWD. Trapping at 183+++ you have to assume he's making 1200+++ hp.

 

[Shane818]

what about brent rau? whats he put down?

 

[Eclipsemblue]

whats the most a stock 4g63 can take in hp ???

 

[Slammed0]

Why can't a 420a dish out alot of horsepower?

 

[sonicnofadz]

Brent's fastest 1/4 mile time:
7.59 @ 183mph (RWD)

Here is a video of that pass:
http://www.osofastracing.com/osofastracing/brentrau.wmv

Its safe to say that his 2.0 Liter 4G63 Turbo is making 1200-1500 hp. ALTHOUGH his block may have been modified to hold more power in some way...

 

[sonicnofadz]

A 420a may or may not be able to handle the same type of power a 4g63 block can hold. Most people choose to build up a 4G63 because it fits nicely into a turbocharged car. Not many people like building up the 420a because stock it is a pathetic powerless engine (stock engine also found in the dodge neon) that COULD potentially be powerful if turbocharged but it is much cheaper to make a 4G63 more powerful.

 

[Thomas91169]

It is NOT a track only car.

umm i guess youve been living in a cave. sheps car has been a track car for a pretty long time now. ever get a glance of his new setup, the one WITHOUT a radiator, meaning he can only run the car for so long. he "could" drive it on the street, but im sure running on pump gas making 10psi at most(have fun spooling his turbo on the street) when its tuned for methanol and 40psi+ is gonna be a bit difficult.

its estimated he is making 1000+crank but he hasnt dynoed it. he was doing somewhere around 800 when he was running 8's.


the 4g63 with all stock rotating assembly(crank, rods, pistons) can do 500hp if tuned correctly. go forged assembly and run shitloads of boost and a tranny that can take the abuse and the sky is the limit.

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

Brent's fastest 1/4 mile time:
7.59 @ 183mph (RWD)

Here is a video of that pass:
http://www.osofastracing.com/osofastracing/brentrau.wmv

Its safe to safe that his 2.0 Liter 4G63 Turbo is making 1200-1500 hp. ALTHOUGH his block may have been modified to hold more power in some way...

He's actually run a best of a 7.31 I believe early this season in Phoenix. I don't know if he's gone any faster since. Shepherd was probably making more than 800 whp to trap 165mph. I believe Jesus makes 800whp and traps 150s. I would assume at least 900-1000whp in a 2500lb car to trap about 165.

 

[Slammed0]

Not many people like building up the 420a because stock it is a pathetic powerless engine (stock engine also found in the dodge neon) that COULD potentially be powerful if turbocharged but it is much cheaper to make a 4G63 more powerful.

Same as a Neon!!! That doesn't make me feel any better. Yuck, why did they do that? Seems to me that the 420a is a pretty quick car given that it is all stock. Doesn't seem like a Neon is as fast as an Eclipse/Talon.

 

[marcmsj]

Same as a Neon!!! That doesn't make me feel any better. Yuck, why did they do that? Seems to me that the 420a is a pretty quick car given that it is all stock. Doesn't seem like a Neon is as fast as an Eclipse/Talon.

engines can be tuned and detuned as deemed necessary by the auto makers. remember that the 4g63 was also used in the hyundai sonata.


i didn't know the 420a was used in a neon though.. i'll have to investigate that.

 

[speedy13]

Im' sorry to say this,but it is true.A dodge neon can offer more straight line performance than a 2gnt.Simply because they are basicly the same engine on a MUCH lighter chassis.

 

[Slammed0]

Im' sorry to say this,but it is true.A dodge neon can offer more straight line performance than a 2gnt.Simply because they are basicly the same engine on a MUCH lighter chassis.

Well, I still don't want to give up on my 420a.

 

[sonicnofadz]

engines can be tuned and detuned as deemed necessary by the auto makers. remember that the 4g63 was also used in the hyundai sonata.
i didn't know the 420a was used in a neon though.. i'll have to investigate that.

I go to junkyards alot, I'm afraid it is true. I actually use quite a few parts from the hyundai's for my own car (), its the same n/a 4G63 that you find in the 90-94 cars, (not sure if they are seven or six bolt though). They can be found in the hyundai elantra OR the sonatas.

 

[mntalon_05]

the 420a is a nice N/A motor to build. There are a lot of options you can go with without having to go turbo. I ran last year with a plymouth breeze, 2.0 SOHC, same block just a single cam head, and with only 130 hp at the crank, I had some fun burnin rice, but getting burned just as often. Just remember, hp may be the same as in a honda, but chances are you killin em in torque numbers. There was a neon with us one night with cams, 2.5" exhaust header back, 60mm tb, CAI, and under drive pulleys and I believe he was runing low 15's. Not bad when ya really think about it. Thank god I sold my breeze and bought my talon tho, won't even bother with those rust bucket rice burners that always came out with us last summer....