Lifting my engine

[TeclipseFTW]

On our cars, can the engine be lifted out and put back in with the transmission attached? I have fwd by the way.

 

[eclipsepunx]

I just recently replaced my engine and I pulled it through the top. Not with the trans attached though. I would say it would be better to drop them through the bottom together.

 

[90 Talon AWD]

I pulled my engine and tranny up through the top with no promblems. You would be better off doing it that way. Good Luck

 

[Rob10_99]

Ive never actually seen the bottom drop process, I guess since its done fairly easily out the hood I've never tried it.
I think the steering rack is in the way or you would be able to drop it like a honda with subframes and such already on it.

 

[TuRBoTaLooN]

Yes it can be lifted out the top with the trans, you will just have to angle it a bit on it's way up. I even managed to take out my motor, trans, AND transfer case through the top with just a bit of wiggling. I think this is a lot easier than dropping it from the bottom!

 

[eclipsepunx]

Everywhere I have ever read said do it through the bottom. i disagreed also which is why i did it through the top. Wasn't sure about with the trans.

 

[TeclipseFTW]

Thanks alot guys. I just dropped my tranny last night out the bottom. I'm rebuilding my enggine and tranny at the same time that's y I dropped the tranny first (rebuild place is in Chicago) I wanted to know for when I put them both back in. Isn't there a device you can put on the lifting chain that will allow you to tilt the load?

 

[MichaelSuch]

I've seen some people have that device in their pictures of their builds, but I have no idea what it's called. When I was lowering the engine and trans together in my FWD 1g I had a HELL of a time. I had to let the motor and trans practically sit wedged between the fenders and readjust the chain many of times. I would recommend dropping the motor in first and bolting up the mounts and then pull the transmission up from the bottom, just the opposite of how you dropped it out.

 

[k2crasher]

It's called a "load leveler" used one when removing and installing my engine

 

[redyute1]

In the time it would take you to remove the tranny, you would have had the engine and tranny out from top.Takes me 45 mins to have them out good luck

 

[92_talon_awd]

Pulled my motor and trans from the top and put it back in the same way. Pretty easy and quick, just takes two people. One to operate the engine hoist and one to watch the engine/trans closely to make sure it doesn't snag any wires or lines and if it does, to maneuver it around said obstacles.

 

[eclipsepunx]

Good job and good luck!

 

[knochgoon24]

On my 2g, I took the engine with auto AWD tranny still attached out the top. Then, for some reason, I decided to put it back in through the bottom. Both worked fine for me.

 

[magna]

You can buy a load leveler at Autozone. It makes things a lot easier. Motor or tranny+motor through the top and tranny from the bottom seems to be the method of choice.

 

[TeclipseFTW]

Thanks for all the advice I'll go pick up a load leveler.

 

[djalogik]

I would say, you don't really need a load leveler. As long as you have two people( I only had myself ) you can tilt while the other person lowers the hoist ( again I did it by myself so i put it on auto drop just loosened the bolt a tiny bit while i jiggled it in). So save that money for gas

 

[half-cocked]

You don't need a load leveler but I would suggest it. I have used one and I have also pulled one with 2 chains, on bolted to the driverside motor mount and one just wrapped around the tranny, I'm going to go ahead and advise against doing that.

 

[TeclipseFTW]

woot! engines out!

isnt it hard to believe that this clean of an engine is bad! stupid overheat

 

[MY1GDSM]

I pulled a motor/trans together last week by myself and dropped a a built one in, It is allot easier with out ABS...my car I riped the abs out it gets in the way Bad going in or coming up an out, gotta tilt everything allot it's not really a big deal if you have someone else around But I did'nt...But anyway You overheated and pulled the Whole Motor...?

 

[TeclipseFTW]

your not referring to abs as in brakes are you? but yeah it was a really bad overheat, i had 2 qt of coolant in the whole system... i had to tow the car back home because it wouldnt stay started. got it there went in and replaced the water pump, timing belt, tensioner, tensioner pulley, balance shaft pulley and belt.... so got that all set with the engine in the car that wasnt fun. only to start it up and hear two distinct knocks. 1 is a lifter, i ran the car with the valve cover off and could see and here which one it is. and the other i could not determine, i wound up paying mitsubishi to tell me what the knock was. towed it to the dealership only to find out it is a rod knock which is what i suspected. so now im replacing the lifters and putting a new SHORT block in

 

[lacroixdp]

On your new motor, I'd recommend getting oil analysis done for the first few oil changes at least (I get one done each oil change). It will let you know how your engines doing on break in - it also warns you well in advance if something wonky is going on with your motor. It's cheap insurance if you ask me. I use this place:
Blackstone Laboratories

 

[viperlp01]

wait it is impossible to run your car with the valve cover off!!! I think you ruined your engine. not the overheat. Rod knock is ussually cause by oil starvation...

 

[TeclipseFTW]

haha, no its not imposible. it is a technique used by mechanics. you redirect the oil, and believe me there was plenty of oil in the pan. you run it in a controled environment not driving down the street!

 

[TeclipseFTW]

and what exactly is the breakin process on the 4g63? never a constant rpm? for 500 miles?

 

[viperlp01]

Ok my buddy tried doing that once and i laughed my ass off... Oil was everywhere hahaha....

There is a sequence for the break in. I would search for that sequence...