KYB GR-2's and a 2 Inch Drop...Anyone?

[RWKustoms]

Ok, so I currently have GR-2's and Prokits. The prokits only give a 1.2" drop and I'm not satisfied with that. At first I wanted to get Sportlines but I want something lower, basically 2 inches. I did some research and It seems like people dont think that the GR-2's can hold a 2 " drop at all. I have the hookup to get some brand new H&R's at a really cheap price and I wanted to get them. Can anyone who has had a 2 " or more drop with GR-2's tell me if it wont work out or if my shocks will be gone in a week? I really need to know this because I dont have the money right now to buy new expensive shocks and these have been great for me so far. And seriously, I need people who has had this experience.
Thanks..

 

[Vtec_Killer]

I have had kyb's and goldline springs which are a 2" drop on my car now for about 7 months and I have not had a problem yet and I've hit some big ass pothole's. Pa roads suck.

 

[RWKustoms]

I have had kyb's and goldline springs which are a 2" drop on my car now for about 7 months and I have not had a problem yet and I've hit some big ass pothole's. Pa roads suck.

Nice!!!...Keep em coming..














brand new H&R's for $50 bucks here I come...

 

[Turbo Shogun]

I cut off a coil on my stock springs when I had GR-2s and they rode kinda rough ... Not too intolerable, though, but rough. So I took them off and just waited to buy my coilovers.

 

[90turbotsi]

Is it doable yes... will it be a lasting setup? No The GR2s are an OEM/stock replacement and with lowering they will not last all that long. The AGXs are the better route for lowering. But it can be done, my opinion is that with a 2 or so inch drop dont expect them to last. Mine with a 1.2 inch drop lasted a few thousand but I just picked up a set of AGXs to swap them out with. Your call but it would probably be better to wait it out and get the funds together. Good luck tho

 

[speedy13]

I had sportlines on gr-2(2gnt) and i did not like them.It was better then stock but seemed like they were too soft for lowering springs and weren't as stable as i would of liked on spirited driving.I took them off after a month and went with some agx's instead.Let me tell you though,if i could of done it all over again,i would of gone with the prokit.It just seems like they handle better then the sportlines.

 

[rjclagett]

KYB GR-2's and megan springs(2" drop) have done me well for over a year now, with almost 15k miles.

 

[No_Skillz]

I guarantee all of you guys with the gr2s and 2" drop that your shocks are shot and you don't know it. Those shocks can handle the 1.25" drop of prokits, no ore. Not to mention that cutting a coil off a spring is the biggest sin you can commit to a suspension setup. Keep in mind that lowering your car for "the look" will probably mess you up on the long run. >=2" drops also require camber, rolled fenders, and correct tire sizes.

 

[Turbo Shogun]

Not to mention that cutting a coil off a spring is the biggest sin you can commit to a suspension setup.

I was young and impressionable. I've done penance for my sins!

Like I said, it rode rough ... I wouldn't do it again.

 

[suicidal2af]

I guarantee all of you guys with the gr2s and 2" drop that your shocks are shot and you don't know it. Those shocks can handle the 1.25" drop of prokits, no ore. Not to mention that cutting a coil off a spring is the biggest sin you can commit to a suspension setup. Keep in mind that lowering your car for "the look" will probably mess you up on the long run. >=2" drops also require camber, rolled fenders, and correct tire sizes.

Cutting springs isn't always bad. If done scientifically, you can increase the spring rate of a progressive spring equally on all four corners by removing parts of that.

 

[RWKustoms]

I guarantee all of you guys with the gr2s and 2" drop that your shocks are shot and you don't know it. Those shocks can handle the 1.25" drop of prokits, no ore. Not to mention that cutting a coil off a spring is the biggest sin you can commit to a suspension setup. Keep in mind that lowering your car for "the look" will probably mess you up on the long run. >=2" drops also require camber, rolled fenders, and correct tire sizes.

Have you had experience with this setup and why do they require rolled fenders? I see alot of 2G's out there with a 2 inch drop without rolled fenders. Of course camber is going to be an issue and that's why I already have a camber kit on the car right now that has been on ever since the car was lowered.




BTW, keep 'em coming...everybody's opinion will add to my decision making.

 

[Jon Lane]

Have you had experience with this setup and why do they require rolled fenders? I see alot of 2G's out there with a 2 inch drop without rolled fenders. Of course camber is going to be an issue and that's why I already have a camber kit on the car right now that has been on ever since the car was lowered.

I have a 1.5" drop all around and with 7" wheels (40mm offset) and stock-sized tires, the rear tires occasionally hit the fender lips. No interference in front. It's not severe but I notice it on hwy trips. Rear springs are 275# Eibach's over Koni Sports.

The problem is that once you get the camber reset, you've pushed the upper suspension geometry out enough to cause interference. Depending on your offset and tire size, a 2" drop sounds like it could cause trouble with stock fender lips.

 

[No_Skillz]

Have you had experience with this setup and why do they require rolled fenders? I see alot of 2G's out there with a 2 inch drop without rolled fenders. Of course camber is going to be an issue and that's why I already have a camber kit on the car right now that has been on ever since the car was lowered.

Yes, actually, I have, so put away those rolly eyes. If you want, I can send you pictures of my cut up tires.

 

[RWKustoms]

Yes, actually, I have, so put away those rolly eyes. If you want, I can send you pictures of my cut up tires.

No thank you.

 

[No_Skillz]

I suggest tokico illuminas as an alternative that can handle 2" drop. It has a short shock body. Plus they are warrantied for life. Hardcore suspension performance people like wret and jtmcinder will tell you it is crap because you can't adjust bound and rebound seperately, but it sounds like you're going for the look anyway.

 

[RWKustoms]

If you want, I can send you pictures of my cut up tires.

BTW, did this happen to you on stockers or can you tell me what size rims you had on? I currently have my stockers on (16 inch w/ 205/55/16 tires).

 

[No_Skillz]

235/45/17 on 17x8" were on the car along with GR2s and Eibach Sportlines when I bought it. The fenders were already rolled and the tires were still being cut up. The car would bottom out on the tires when hitting the smallest bumps and make a big smashing sound whenever I went over anything bigger. Although I got lots of comments on how low it was, I decided I wasn't going to find out if I could shake my car apart that way.

Edit: Though it could be possible that you can get away with this drop on stock wheels, the original question: whether shocks would survive, is still a major issue. When I replaced the suspension, I couldn't believe the horrible shape my GR2s were in. They rattled, looked flimsy, and I could compress them by hand pretty easily. Granted I don't know how long they were on, but my car is a 1999 with 50k miles on it when I bought it. GR2s are already aftermarket so I'm estimating no more than 50k and 6 years.

 

[ChvyKc]

I had Eibach sportlines and KYB AGX's on my 3G (which I understand is a completely different car) but they were horrible. The car was just to low and you could tell that there just wasn't enough throw in the suspension. I will never go lower than 1.25 on any car after that experience. I am going with prokits and GR-2 on my 1G this time, should be a decent set-up.

 

[LONEWOLF01]

KYB GR-2's and megan springs(2" drop) have done me well for over a year now, with almost 15k miles.

i know a couple of guys running around with that setup with no problems.

 

[james242k2]

I agree with 90turbotsi. It is do-able, but the GR2s are an OEM replacement. You should only get struts that say they are adjustable. That way you won't put the money and time into them and have them fail after 6 months. I would go with something like the KYG AGXs. They are a good set for lowering and they only cost about $150 more than the GR2s. The whole point I am trying to make is why take a chance and get something that isn't made for lowering. I hope this helps.

 

[RWKustoms]

See, I know what's right as far as the best shocks for a drop this low but because I was getting a deal I couldnt refuse I just thought I would get opinions from people with this setup and I thank all you guys for the feedback. It seems as if it's doable as james242k2, No Skillz and 90turbotsi said. I know there is a possibility that these struts will not last with this drop but it's a chance I'm willing to take because from the feedback I've received a lot of people has had no problems with the setup.

What I really want to know is if I'll really need rolled fenders on the stockers?

 

[bryan_tberry]

Okay, I had GR-2's on my old 2G with a 2" or so drop via some cheap ricer sleeve style coilovers from ebay. (I've grown up.) I regret even messing with it at all. It was THE MOST horrible thing I have ever ridden in. So uncomfortable. You can make your own camber kit with some washers and a few nuts and bolts. Visit VFAQ for the write-up. I'm telling you, you will bounce around everwhere. I was afraid of a bent wheel after even the smallest dip in the road. Be warned it's NOT A GOOD SETUP!

If your going to go ahead and do it, you dont need to roll your fenders, so no worries there.

 

[RWKustoms]

Okay, I had GR-2's on my old 2G with a 2" or so drop via some cheap ricer sleeve style coilovers from ebay. (I've grown up.) I regret even messing with it at all. It was THE MOST horrible thing I have ever ridden in. So uncomfortable. You can make your own camber kit with some washers and a few nuts and bolts. Visit VFAQ for the write-up. I'm telling you, you will bounce around everwhere. I was afraid of a bent wheel after even the smallest dip in the road. Be warned it's NOT A GOOD SETUP!

If your going to go ahead and do it, you dont need to roll your fenders, so no worries there.

But I'm not using some "cheap ass ricer bought from ebay coilovers" though.

 

[RWKustoms]

If your going to go ahead and do it, you dont need to roll your fenders, so no worries there.

Just as I thought because I've seen tons of 2G's with a 2 inch drop on stockers and there wasn't a need for rolled fenders.