is this bov pipe correct?? ets intercooler

[1998gstspyder]

It just seems like the pipe should have the hks flange on top and have the end pointing downards. Am i correct? or am I putting in the pipe the wrong way.


if i have the flange facing up, and connect the longer end to the throttle body, then the shorter end faces upward, which makes it difficult to make it go down to the core

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if i have the flange facing dowward, connecting the longer end the the throttle body, then the shorter end faces downward, which makes it easy to go down to the core but my bov would be upside down.

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[bling5tatus]

The direction your bov flange faces does not matter as long as there aren't any clearance issues with the bov when it's on the pipe. I'd hold the pipes whichever direction they need to be to fit into the intercooler and the throttle body.... in other words, don't worry about which way your bov is facing.

 

[1998gstspyder]

no it is a problem, i dont want the bov facing downward. thats not what i paid 872 dollars for. If you look at other people's installation of this fmic, they have the bov facing upward.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

it's an intercooler system. Play with the pipes until they match up correctly, it isn't exactly rocket science. If you bought it from ETS, i'm sure they either have pictures up, or are available to call for information on their product.

 

[1998gstspyder]

it's an intercooler system. Play with the pipes until they match up correctly, it isn't exactly rocket science. If you bought it from ETS, i'm sure they either have pictures up, or are available to call for information on their product.

you're missing the point. I'm saying they welded the flange on the wrong side. you are stupid? i obvioulsy know how to make it work, but i dont want my bov upside when i paid so much for the kit. if it was some cheap ebay kit for like 300 bux, i wouldnt care.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

DUDE! You are in luck. I too had the same problem and frankly, Sorry Tom, but the placement of the HKS was in a dumb spot. All the way in the bottom??? Thats right 98GST at the BOTTOM. The flange needs to point up. It is the pipe that connects to the bottom elbow. The little pipe goes connected to the elbow or whatever you have connected to the throttle body.
Now I cant recirculate the bov. I dont have anything that long. I need to search harder I assume, unless they have any ideas.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

DUDE! You are in luck. I too had the same problem and frankly, Sorry Tom, but the placement of the HKS was in a dumb spot. All the way in the bottom??? Thats right 98GST at the BOTTOM. The flange needs to point up. It is the pipe that connects to the bottom elbow. The little pipe goes connected to the elbow or whatever you have connected to the throttle body.
Now I cant recirculate the bov. I dont have anything that long. I need to search harder I assume, unless they have any ideas.

eh, it's ok. I'm allowed to make mistakes Anyway, aside from the fact that you want the bling of the UICP and BOV facing up the placement of the BOV really doesn't matter in a pressurized system. I'm sure you all know that. In terms of placing it for recirculating reasons, then yea, i can see where you're coming from.

I got a solution though, look into my gallery with the new engine pic and look at my recirc tube. I went to ACE hardware (or any lowes/HD/etc) and find vacuum cleaner hosing. Works like a charm and bends anyway you'd like

 

[1998gstspyder]

DUDE! You are in luck. I too had the same problem and frankly, Sorry Tom, but the placement of the HKS was in a dumb spot. All the way in the bottom??? Thats right 98GST at the BOTTOM. The flange needs to point up. It is the pipe that connects to the bottom elbow. The little pipe goes connected to the elbow or whatever you have connected to the throttle body.
Now I cant recirculate the bov. I dont have anything that long. I need to search harder I assume, unless they have any ideas.

Did ETS take responsibility and replace it or what? Because I'm going to write a bad review man, they have the worst placement of this flange. i see no reason for where it is. and all their other customers that posted installed pics don't have the same issue. seems like me and you got the bad ones or something.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

No I did write them an email to see if thats how they designed the system and they said yes. Why? I dont know, but I didnt like the placement either. It is hard to get the valve to recirculate, that is why it's not recirculating in mine, at least not yet. I dont think ours are "bad" design, but for whatever reason that's where they decided to place the flange. Perhaps since their system is "interchangeable", meaning you can cut up the pipes and install a blow thru system. I don't know.
As for the hose from ACE, I will take a look at that option, Thanks.

 

[siceclipse]

did they place it under the pipe because it would possibly hit the hood when closed?

 

[Savage Talon]

I don't know about 2g's but that looks like my cold side lower pipe from ets. In your pics the short side of the 45 goes to the IC. then there is a upper pipe that goes from that pipe to the TB.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

did they place it under the pipe because it would possibly hit the hood when closed?

It may, not sure. I think it would have fit if it was sideways but I dont remember how much space there is to the right, near the head, for the HKS to fit.
Savage, you are correct. It goes bolted on the bottom right after the bend on the cold side.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

I don't understand why you guys say that mounting it upside down "sucks". ETS probably had good reason to do so (although I can't figure out what that is just yet). Did you guys know that stock 1G BOV's were faced down?

 

[1998gstspyder]

no there is no clearance for the bov, its a very hard fit, espeically wiht the intake being there too

 

[1998gstspyder]

okay its official that bov tube is WRONG...i looked at numerous other ets users and the angle of my bov tube is just different. it's suppose to angle down at an earlier point OR it's suppose to have 2 tubes connecting to throttle body like other people's kits.

as you can see, there is no way I can put the pipe above the intake because of the water coolant.

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it's suppose to go under, but it goes right in front of my intake..

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it's SUPPOSE to angel where the finger is pointing to make it work

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[DGajre777]

All the ETS kits I've seen have 2 pipes, you may need to cut the pipe to make it fit right. ETS in on this site as a vendor, try to send them a PM them.

 

[1998gstspyder]

All the ETS kits I've seen have 2 pipes, you may need to cut the pipe to make it fit right. ETS in on this site as a vendor, try to send them a PM them.

I rather have ETS be responsible for what they gave me. I'm going to call them first thing in the morning.

in my instructions, it says connect the BOV pipe to the throttle body, thats what i dont see how there can be another pipe in between

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

Dude you got it wrong. That pipe goes on the BOTTOM. Right after the curved one on the cold side of the cooler. The longer part of that pipe goes towards/closer to the throttle body.

 

[1998gstspyder]

then where would my bov be? right under my intake? also I didnt get it wrong. ETS directions are wrong.

 

[CanadianTSi]

If you actually Talk to ETS I'm sure they would be more than happy to help you. I bought one of there very early kits and in doing so ran into a couple problems, they sent me two new sections right away for free without any hassle at all. I was actually the first person to ask for a kit flanged for a 1G BOV so it took a couple try's the get the flange placement perfect.

 

[CanadianTSi]

Here are some old, old pictures of my piping. The pipe that has the flange on it should be connected to the lower IC pipe and not the TB. That is probably the only flange that is placed on this pipe where all others are placed on the short curved piece that attaches to the TB. So either you got the wrong directions or they are the same for all flanges and need to be edited for this one.

 

[ETS Tom]

It was good speaking with you this morning and you have an E-mail reply as well. The piping is configured incorrectly in the pictures you've posted. The UICP is a 3-piece unit which this picture of the Talon w/ yellow piping helps show. If you are missing the pipe that connects to the throttle body as we discussed by E-mail and over the phone just let us know and it will be expedited to you

As mentioned, the quality and fitment of the kit is expected to be second to none and we don't hesitate to support our product if for any reason it is not perfect. We place the BOV flange for the 1G and Greddy on top because of their size. HKS, Tial and almost all others have bodies that are just too large to clear the cruise control, stock battery and hood all at the same time. Because 100% fitment around the factory components is our primary concern, we locate those valves to the bottom so that there are zero clearance issues.

Here is the picture of the Talon for reference and if you have any other questions or concerns please don't hesitate to reply or call us directly. Thanks again!

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Tom

 

[marq95gst]

If you actually Talk to ETS I'm sure they would be more than happy to help you. I bought one of there very early kits and in doing so ran into a couple problems, they sent me two new sections right away for free without any hassle at all. I was actually the first person to ask for a kit flanged for a 1G BOV so it took a couple try's the get the flange placement perfect.

+100

I would have called ETS to see if they could fix my problem before talking bad about them, and threatening to write them a bad review. Thats just me though. Now if they didn't want to help you for shyt, I could see, then, doing the review. ETS kicks ass. If they make a mistake they will go out of their way to fix it for you. They have great customer service too. IMO.

 

[wishihadatalon]

ETS is the ish. Every core I have ever used has been from them and it will continue to be that way

 

[1998gstspyder]

+100

I would have called ETS to see if they could fix my problem before talking bad about them, and threatening to write them a bad review. Thats just me though. Now if they didn't want to help you for shyt, I could see, then, doing the review. ETS kicks ass. If they make a mistake they will go out of their way to fix it for you. They have great customer service too. IMO.

i never said they were bad, and i did a lot of research before buying this kit so i know its good. i was just frustrated because it was the weekend and i couldnt contant anyone else so i posted on here. the one problem is that the directions were wrong and thats why it wasnt working out. i will get to try it out a little later with the new directions from Tom in my email.