Resolved Injen Intake

[sinned4g63]

So tax season is here and I'm finally moving forward with a few things on my list (fuel pump/sway bar bushings/motor mounts/etc.) and might have a little extra for something I don't NEED. Eyeballing an intake I was wondering if you can just throw it on and go. The Injen intake, which is what I'll be going with if possible, uses an adapter to put a filter on the MAF and simply replaces the piping and giant air box. Going by the 2G DSM upgrade path it says step 1: "It's best to remove the aircan so that the filter is exposed. The better way to do it would be to buy a new filter system..". Am I interpreting this correctly as in you can do this without any other work or adjustments or supporting mods? Wouldn't go as far to say a full on tune but I don't want to do it unless it's safe/reliable. Only thing I have done is a 1G BoV, other then that it's all stock until I can do my fuel pump and AFPR. I feel like this is a silly question but I'd just like some reassurance for my daily as I don't know of ANY other stock examples with just an intake alone. Sorry if I'm . I wasn't sure how else I could search for this. Thanks!

 

[Mello]

Installing an Injen Intake will not cause you any tuning problems and can be done without doing anything else. Heads up though. When I installed my Injen Intake it wasn't as great a mod as I naively thought. Eliminating the factory air boxes has an undesirable side effect being really hot air intake temps which will hurt performance.

 

[sinned4g63]

Is there any remedy for this or something you recommend otherwise? I wouldn't mind taking the time to make like a partial airbox to block off some hotter areas toward the direction of the engine if it would do any good. I've also seen ideas tossed around of using the SMIC scoop to run a pipe to the filter to essentially rush more air at it like a "long route" headlight cut out (if that makes sense). Like I mentioned, I don't need it haha but I'd like to do it right if there is such a way. The summer here in MD can be pretty brutal. Hot and humid.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Like said. The mod needs nothing extra, takes twenty minutes. The adapter to run a 3 inch air filter is probably ten bux on eBay. There's more than a few threads here about the heat shield for the airbox.

On 1gs there's a free mod that helps. I don't know if 2gs have that plate behind the passenger headlight.

 

[sinned4g63]

Like said. The mod needs nothing extra, takes twenty minutes. The adapter to run a 3 inch air filter is probably ten bux on eBay. There's more than a few threads here about the heat shield for the airbox.

On 1gs there's a free mod that helps. I don't know if 2gs have that plate behind the passenger headlight.

Sorry. I wasn't questioning what's needed for the install. Was just asking for his take on possible solutions for lower intake temp. Appreciate your input! I will do some more digging tomorrow on the heat shield but in the meantime my question is considered answered. thank you

 

[techboy]

Most people that are very serious about intake temps do some sort of a headlight delete or headlight opening. The post above is correct ... tons of people go with an aftermarket intake system, but it does get hot in the engine bay quick. The stock air box really isn't all that bad in the end.

My car never had one when I bought it ... if you remove it and want to sell it, hit me up.

 

[Mello]

I do not have any good, clean, recommendations for dealing with the air temps & air boxes for a DD 2G which wouldn't require hacking up stuff. I'm still undecided on how to addres this on my DD. I first thought was I would be able to reuse the factory air box and mount the cone filter inside & all; but the Injen intake doesn't place the MAF in the same location & everything was off making the factory air box not adaptable. I'm still at the cut-up cardboard/duct tape, experimental stage looking for that magically clean & efficent install. Sealing of the air filter & still having accessible is challenging. There are many members on here that have various setups but none I really liked or thought was the best way.

 

[Vegas Smith]

I wouldn't worry too much about the hot air issue as it's pretty miniscule unless you're trying to break records and push the car to the limits.

 

[sinned4g63]

Mello, these are exactly the answers I was looking for. I have been looking for about 2 and a half hours now for ideas and possible solutions but really nothing solid to be found, plenty on fabrication ideas but nothing that "works" perse or wouldn't be a waste of time and parts come summer for me. I don't need one for any reason and the results I'm finding are simply reiterating that I really don't need one at all even to get performance gains, at least not at this point in my build that is.. It looks like at this point I'll be holding off on the intake until I can start to make it more beneficial. With doing the fuel pump might be better off spending the money for a wideband to replace the PoS narrowband I have occupying a pod hole for a fancy light..

 

[sinned4g63]

I wouldn't worry too much about the hot air issue as it's pretty miniscule unless you're trying to break records and push the car to the limits.

Good to know. I'm not going to the track or anything, no late night street races or breaking records.. Just want a reliable 300-400whp daily when it's all said and done. At this point in the build though it just doesn't seem like I really need it, or at least that there's better places to put the money for now. Thank you!

 

[Vegas Smith]

If it makes you feel better, about 99.9% of all dsmers throughout history have run the usual K&N style air filter in the engine bay and have been totally fine. Very rarely do you ever see anyone go out of their way to make a cold air induction setup. Cold air helps but you'll be fine.

 

[GoCanes777]

I had a injen intake setup on my T-25 and 16g for years didn't have problems with intake temps and I live in south Florida. I did have working fans and a heat blanket/lower heat shield set up though.

 

[sinned4g63]

If it makes you feel better, about 99.9% of all dsmers throughout history have run the usual K&N style air filter in the engine bay and have been totally fine. Very rarely do you ever see anyone go out of their way to make a cold air induction setup. Cold air helps but you'll be fine.

And that's what sparked my interest to begin with. I never see stock air boxes on these cars but never really thought about intake temp either and how it would effect performance until I got one of my own. It does make me feel better knowing how simple it is to install and what to expect once it's on.. One of my other initial thoughts was that it would just be nice to have hard piping for the intake as opposed to the rubber tube. The filter at that point would be a "might as well" sorta thing. Maybe I'll sleep on it before I hit that oh so enticing "place order" button..

 

[sinned4g63]

I had a injen intake setup on my T-25 and 16g for years didn't have problems with intake temps and I live in south Florida. I did have working fans and a heat blanket/lower heat shield set up though.

Well my fans are in working order haha and I know Florida is pretty comparable if not worse then Maryland on the heat and humidity. All exhaust and heat shields are stock and in tact. Once I get to the point of replacing that stuff I'll probably do some heat wrap where I can. It's easy enough and I love the look.

 

[GoCanes777]

My advice would be to go ahead with a intake that maintains the recirculation feature but keep all of your stock parts. ESP from a car as clean as yours and don't sell them. I found my car seven years ago bone stock and wish I didn't sell off the stock parts.

 

[sinned4g63]

My advice would be to go ahead with a intake that maintains the recirculation feature but keep all of your stock parts. ESP from a car as clean as yours and don't sell them. I found my car seven years ago bone stock and wish I didn't sell off the stock parts.

I most certainly do keep ALL of my stock parts.. even labeled a small baggy for my BCS restrictor "do not trash". Can't ever see myself putting it back in for any reason but you never know. I'll update by the end of tomorrow with what I end up with. I appreciate your input, thank you!

 

[sinned4g63]

Like said. The mod needs nothing extra, takes twenty minutes. The adapter to run a 3 inch air filter is probably ten bux on eBay. There's more than a few threads here about the heat shield for the airbox.

On 1gs there's a free mod that helps. I don't know if 2gs have that plate behind the passenger headlight.

I assume you mention the adapter for a 3" filter because the one that comes with the intake is smaller then that. What benefit would a larger filter have if the piping can only suck in so much at a time? Unless you mean to say it would help with the intake temp. Only asking because ExtremePSI offers kits for 4.5" filters (cost aside at the moment).

 

[chrysler kid]

I do not have any good, clean, recommendations for dealing with the air temps & air boxes for a DD 2G which wouldn't require hacking up stuff. I'm still undecided on how to addres this on my DD. I first thought was I would be able to reuse the factory air box and mount the cone filter inside & all; but the Injen intake doesn't place the MAF in the same location & everything was off making the factory air box not adaptable. I'm still at the cut-up cardboard/duct tape, experimental stage looking for that magically clean & efficent install. Sealing of the air filter & still having accessible is challenging. There are many members on here that have various setups but none I really liked or thought was the best way.

My idea is to cut the eBay pipe down a bit by the turbo, cut a few inches off at the end Make a bead line of jb weld or just scuff the intake so a new coupler would fit

But yes I want to use a stock air box with a hard intake pipe as well. It's s much cleaner look and more efficient for clean cool air

 

[Bud92gsx]

I went with the round 3 inch K&n rather than the stock type oval filter, on a 2g maf. I just wanted you to have all the info you needed when ordering. It does get a little tight by the upper ic pipe when you have the hard intake pipe

 

[sinned4g63]

I went with the round 3 inch K&n rather than the stock type oval filter, on a 2g maf. I just wanted you to have all the info you needed when ordering. It does get a little tight by the upper ic pipe when you have the hard intake pipe

Ahh I see, thank you. I didn't even consider where the stock intercooler piping would be routed.. would make it rather difficult to stuff a 4.5 inch filter in there I imagine. Much appreciated for the suggestion. Would not have been happy finding that out during the install.

 

[sinned4g63]

My idea is to cut the eBay pipe down a bit by the turbo, cut a few inches off at the end Make a bead line of jb weld or just scuff the intake so a new coupler would fit

But yes I want to use a stock air box with a hard intake pipe as well. It's s much cleaner look and more efficient for clean cool air

Funny you mention that. I've been thinking this whole time that using the hard pipe with stock airbox would be ideal from the way things are sounding. May have to look into this farther.. Good to know I'm not alone haha

 

[Bud92gsx]

The length and width might be an issue. I have no way to tell you for sure tho. I can go out n measure mine, but that's not going to help you any, if u go 4 inches or better.

 

[sinned4g63]

The length and width might be an issue. I have no way to tell you for sure tho. I can go out n measure mine, but that's not going to help you any, if u go 4 inches or better.

That's just what I was thinking. I need to clean my air filter anyways so I can take some measurements then and report back.