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I think i screwed up

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ZachM31

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Aug 30, 2004
Moorhead, Minnesota
Alright, i am taking my balance shafts out, and anyways, i got the oil pump cover off, then went to loosen the bolts on the pump itself so i could unbolt the rear balance shaft from the gear and put the stubby one in, but the problem is, i got the 4 bolts out, and noticed 1 screw also holding it down, so i got a philips screwdriver and tried and tried to loosen it, but that wasnt gonna happen, all i was doing is ruining the head on the screw, so now i dont think i am gonna be able to get the screw out at all... should i drill the head out, take the pump off, then grab the screw body with a vice-grips to take it out? the only thing i am worried about is getting a new screw... i dont know if i absolutely need it.. any ideas will be appreciated.. thanks!
 
There shouldn't be a screw in there as far as i know so yes drill it out and replace with the bolt that is supposed to be there.
 
yeah after going through the vfaq a few times i didnt think so either, but 2nd gens must be different slightly? i am gonna go outside now and snap a few pics, so i'll post a picture in a few minutes.
 
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As you can see, the screw is kinda stripped out, i am sure some kind of loc-tite was used on it, so it's basically impossible for me to get it out with the tools i have.
 

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Try a strong flat head screwdriver.. grab the end of it with some vice grips.. and crank away..

You could also try and make a new "slot" with a dremel tool.. then put a big flat-head screwdrive in that and give it a try..

Hope this helps
 
do you suppose then that i should get a new screw when it's time to put it back together? or use a bolt?
 
if you have a Chilton's manual it will tell you exactly whats supposed to be there wether it be a screw or bolt, a friend of mine has mine currently so I can't help you but I'd try to grab a hold of one or ask someone who has one and it should have your answer in there
 
ZachM31 said:
do you suppose then that i should get a new screw when it's time to put it back together? or use a bolt?
I am not real sure why, but every oil pump I took off had that screw. Possibly clearance issues when you put the front case on the block? You can try to just use a bolt and just make sure it clears. If you can find a phillips with a bigger head on it it should come out.
Mike
(see edit below)
 
the way you are supposed to remove that balance shaft is a circle disc looking thing ont the front side of the cover slightly above the oil pump timing gear . to remove it you take a flat head screw driver and a hammer in a counter clockwise direction it un screws . once you get it off you will see a 12mm bolt remove the bolt and the balance shaft is free .
 
you also have to remove the oil pump timing gear and a way to get the 14 mm nut loose is to put the balance shaft in a vise and it will break loose . you'll figure it out. you should put those 4 bolts back in and stop worrying about that phillips head screw.
 
Spyderman7 said:
the way you are supposed to remove that balance shaft is a circle disc looking thing ont the front side of the cover slightly above the oil pump timing gear . to remove it you take a flat head screw driver and a hammer in a counter clockwise direction it un screws . once you get it off you will see a 12mm bolt remove the bolt and the balance shaft is free .
But with the front case off the oil pump will need to be packed with vasaline or all purpose white grease, and to get it properly primed it is best to remove the pump cover to do it. But yes, He will have to do that too.
Mike
 
The only thing that I remove is the 1 1/2" round plate with six notches in it.The only thing exposed is the 12mm bolt that holds the balance shaft in place.You don't remove the 5bolts holding the rear cover.I beleive 2gs have 4 bolts and screw that is there to prevent people from taking the cover off.I've done it a couple of dozen times and never did anything to prime the pump other than turn the car over with the coil unplugged.But do it however.
 
well what i did is just drilled the screw out, just enough drilling to get the head of the screw to break off, now i think i can either use a screw extractor to get the threaded part out, or maybe i will take it to a machine shop to have them get the screw out, run a tap through to clean the threads, and then get a new screw... i really dont know why they put a screw in there.. but oh well, whats done is done, i appreciate the help though! :dsm:
 
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