I think I just blew my clutch

[spyderdrifter]

So driving home and my clutch pedal was feeling a little off from usual while down shifting, like there's a lack of pressure. Feels fine while up shifting. So stop at a light and accelerate into 3rd gear and then no clutch pressure at all. I managed to get pulled over in a parking lot where I am now waiting on a friend to come pick me up. Car is still running, clutch pedal goes to the floor and only come up if I pull it with my foot. I can't see any leaks and the resivoir is full. Would this be a blown clutch, or something else possibly? I blew the clutch in the Talon ESi I had yard ago, but when that happened, the car shut itself off. Was nothing like this so I'm not sure right now.

 

[c2ypt1c]

Sounds like air in the lines...

It could also be the master or slave cylinder. Both can be rebuilt fairly easily and cheap.

I'd bleed the lines and go from there.

 

[spyderdrifter]

Will have to check later. Just left my car.

 

[BogusSVO]

Doubt it is air in the lines.... for air to get in there would be a leak, and loss of fluid.

Sounds like a blown internal seal in one of the cylinders.

This would cause the pedal to stay on the floor, and no loss of fluid, since it it is still in the clutch system, just not where it needs to be.

 

[spyderdrifter]

Doubt it is air in the lines.... for air to get in there would be a leak, and loss of fluid.

Sounds like a blown internal seal in one of the cylinders.

This would cause the pedal to stay on the floor, and no loss of fluid, since it it is still in the clutch system, just not where it needs to be.

I highly doubt air in the lines too. Even with pulling the engine out twice, I avoided having to open the lines since I hate bleeding the system. My instructor at school also said its probably the slave cylinder and based on how it looks, I wouldn't be surprised. Will be pulling it off later to inspect it.



Really hope its that so I don't have to pull the transmission out. Will keep you all updated. Thanks.

 

[c2ypt1c]

Doubt it is air in the lines.... for air to get in there would be a leak, and loss of fluid.

I agree, but it doesn't hurt to try (part of the whole "debugging" process )

Sounds like a blown internal seal in one of the cylinders.

This would cause the pedal to stay on the floor, and no loss of fluid, since it it is still in the clutch system, just not where it needs to be.

Typically, when the seals blow, they will leak at their respective boots.

That said, I also suspect the cylinders...

 

[spyderdrifter]

New update: clutch good; slave cylinder and line going into it bad. Swapped out the slave with a new one. Got the line in it and filled the master cylinder up. Then found the line fitting to the slave is bad. Got her towed home and now I gotta search though my stock pile of parts for the steel braided clutch line I bought from Mach V a few years ago and never used.


So I just found the clutch line from Mach V. There was never any instructions with this piece, which is why I never installed it. The sticker on the packaging says 'Braided stainless clutch line (entire) 2G DSM'. Anyone on here ever install one of these? I'm sure its simple, but my only concern is, if I install this line, am I deleting the proportioning valve type component that sits on the front of the transmission that feeds fluid to the slave cylinder? I never quite understood the intention of this part.

 

[WES_393]

I have a stock accumulator with lines in prefect condition. If you can pick it up its yours, just send me a PM if your interested.

 

[spyderdrifter]

Is that what that valve thing is? An accumulator? What is its function? I've never before gotten any sort of answer regarding the part.

 

[WES_393]

Yeah, the little cylinder between the hard line and slave cylinder is the accumulator. It basically makes the clutch feel smoother and stops instant clutch engagement (clutch dumping).

 

[spyderdrifter]

Spiffy. If I installed my braided line, I'd be essentially removing the accumulator from the system correct? And if so, is it needed, or more of a comfort thing? I'd rather keep it for now until I learn more about it.

 

[pauleyman]

It's a comfort thing and will keep the clutch from engaging quickly. Most if not all 2g guys eventually eliminate it.

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

I deleted mine and noticed a, difference at first but now driving is completly normal

 

[boost97gst]

Engagement will be a litle quicker with the 'straight to slave' line. It declutters the engine bay and also eliminates possible failure points. Its a smart upgrade. Itll take a day or 2 and you wont notice the difference.

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

What about the one piece line? I had full master line and the slave but they both have a female end and the banjo end. The master cylinder port needs a male end?

 

[spyderdrifter]

Mine is the full line with banjo fitting on one side and the other is a female fitting with a male fitting attached to it. I compared it to what's in the car now, and it looks like it'll hook up with no problems. Guess I might do this.


Well I got a replacement from WES, thanks bro, but due to my car having the fittings already pr-stripped for me, I ended up installing the full braided line. Drove it a little and there's no issues now. I didnt even notice anything odd with the accumulator removed. Still felt normal. Thanks for all the help.