I have to call BS on a 1/4 Mile time in the list

[kilurv8]

Look at number 14. GADriver states he has a GST and runs pump gas yet can pull an 11.132 @ 121 in a FWD? That doesn't add up. Neither does the 1.555 60 ft time. Also, if you read through some of the posts that GAdriver has put up, I find it hard to believe (uses a bike pump as a pressure tester)? The link to his timeslip also doesn't work.

I call bs

11.132 @ 121.330 6.987 @ 101.330 1.555 GAdriver 95 Eclipse GST
no

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

that does seem a lil fishy.

a 1.5 60' in a fwd car....um thats hard to believe. Jon shepards 60' in his 8 sec awd talon is like a 1.4 or something like that. That just doesnt seem right at all

 

[pneumo]

You guys are going to have a really hard time beleiving what the Wrighttouch car can do. You can find it at DSMtimes.org

 

[pneumo]

You didn't have a problem with Aniel or kiggly?

 

[hostile]

It is bullshit, look at his post's for 5 seconds and you can tell this kid never ran a 13 second pass much less a low eleven.

 

[rhamlinii]

Why does it really matter what that kid runs. Even if he dreamed it up it shouldnt matter, are you mad beacuse maybe your car is slow and he took your idea from you . I posted a 13.6 so set me out some cars and maybe you'll find out that maybe I never posted my quickest time. Who know's I might have more stuff done to my car then my profile says. All im trying to say is why cant you just dismiss the the B.S you see over the internet for yourself you dont have to single out people.

 

[Antilles]

What the hell are you even talking about? This isnt a honda forum. It doesnt matter what this kid ran but bullshit posts/times need to be adressed. Otherwise everyone and their mom will suddenly be running 10's. If that list is to have any credibility then crap like this shouldnt just be let go.

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by Antilles
What the hell are you even talking about? This isnt a honda forum. It doesnt matter what this kid ran but bullshit posts/times need to be adressed. Otherwise everyone and their mom will suddenly be running 10's. If that list is to have any credibility then crap like this shouldnt just be let go.

Well yes if your saying that I own a honda then yes I do. If you think your 12 sec car can beat it then I would have to say it wont. The kid never said it runs 10s I have friends with hondas and dsms that do runs 10s. You dont have a fast car and you never will. As I said it shouldnt matter, if you feel that way then the only was we would know what a car ran at the track. Would be to see that car run at the track. All im saying is that it is possible for a fwd to get traction and maybe he did run that time, but it not your job to make him prove it. If you think a link to a time slip can do it I could ask my friends dad to give me a slip from his 8sec turbo mustang.

 

[GoSpeedRacerGo]

Originally posted by rhamlinii
Why does it really matter what that kid runs. Even if he dreamed it up it shouldnt matter, are you mad beacuse maybe your car is slow and he took your idea from you . I posted a 13.6 so set me out some cars and maybe you'll find out that maybe I never posted my quickest time. Who know's I might have more stuff done to my car then my profile says. All im trying to say is why cant you just dismiss the the B.S you see over the internet for yourself you dont have to single out people.

Stop jumping nuts. If it is questionable, it needs to be dealt with. As said above, the list needs some credibility. Also, often times (myself included) people with slower cars look on the list to PM more experianced/faster cars to get tips on driving/modding/launching etc. Obviously from reading through his posts, he has no idea WTF he would be talking about, and since he lied about his time, he probably would just spew out BS to people who ask him honest questions, hoping to get experianced answers. Rather than getting good information, they get BS, because that is what this kid is.

 

[GoSpeedRacerGo]

I would like to add this:

Car: 95 Eclipse GST
Bolt-on Mods: clamp on, muffler
Engine Internals:
Suspension,
Wheels & Tires: stock
Wishlist:
Timesplip Info: 1/4 Mile: [email protected]
1/8 Mile: [email protected]
60': 1.555
Track: brainerd
Race or Pump Gas? Pump Gas
Nitrous? no
Proof: Link to timeslip


Yeah, 11sec FWD car with a muffler.

EDIT: I would like to add this:

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=800977#post800977

 

[pneumo]

There is definately something wrong. That time sure doesn't match that member. He even started a thread titled something like,"Do spark plugs need to be gapped?"

I wonder if that time is just a computer glitch from the recent server move? Maybe it's a real time that someone else did? I don't even think he's smart enough to fake a timeslip where all the numbers fall in line like that.

 

[rhamlinii]

You know on, www.dsmtimes.org you have to send in your time slip in before they post your time right. Im not sure but I think you do, they do that to make sure your running those time before they post it. You dont have to do that here on dsmtuner. If you guys want to look for advice from a kid that dosent even know how to put the spark plugs in, let alone gap them then do it. You guys are saying well this cant be true this guy is liar, all im saying is so what. Grow up the kid might have a fast car, maybe he dosent. If someone on the street told you the world was going to be destroyed by the moon hitting the earth. Would you keep walking and living your life or would you stand there and start crying? I look at all the stuff and yes it look like it can't be true unless he slammed on the brakes affter he took off like a bat out of hell. If you were looking thru the track times you would and should dismiss it for b.s but, why waste your time making a tread about it. Im on hear to argue my point across to everyone who reads this. Unless you have factual knowledge that what he posted was false and you have a problum with it. Then you should talk to the maker and or owner of this site to make them ask for a written document from the track where that person ran, of what a person runs before they post his or her time.I ran my time I posted and if you were to come up to me and ask me what I ran I would tell you 13.6. I admit I have more mods done and the car has run a faster time on my stock turbo. I did that for a reason I have nothing to pruve to anyone but myself. I think its wrong to call someone out like that saying that there lying unless you know they are. If you think its B.S which I do then fine just dont deal with it in the manner then what your doing . Im also saying that IT COULD BE TRUE.If you think fwd car cant do it then you need to go to http://www.fastestfwdstreetcars.com/ and decide if what there saying is "B.S" or not.

On a personal level I want ANTILLES to come to the Md,D.C,Va area so he can race the cars in this area. I think you have something aginst Honda's so I want you to race a green streetable civic or a blue crx, who's owner also runs a blue civic( I know i might be starting trouble for this but there also some guy with a red integra from nu-image that would run you) sorry Rich at least you beat him. There are also some dsm powered cars you could run at MIR raceway, there FWD one's there brad brooks colt and the other is a plumb and silver 1g I think that guy works at Extreme motorsports tho I dont know him.Everyone I was just talking about was on that web site and run 10s or lower and they are street able even tho there owner might not drive them on the street much. 12.4 are you joking, I hope thats not your fastest time and you have more done to you car (). Nice picture tho it looked good. This car is my 4th dsm tho.The other ones kept or were going to be breaking all the time.Which is the reason why I got a honda for track use.There just easy to work on and power to weight ratio was a plus. Good luck with your car.:thumbdown

 

[Antilles]

I hate to get involved in your flaming here, but what you are saying makes no sense, and since you called me out specifically, I will argue my point. You are the only one on this thread saying he has nothing to prove, yet oddly enough you are the only one going around bragging about how fast you and your buddies' cars are. You are saying that your car is faster than the 13 second whatever in your profile. And saying that you dont want to post that because you dont feel the need to blow your own horn. Well that is exactly what you are trying to do.

Well yes if your saying that I own a honda then yes I do.

Nope, that isnt what I was saying.

If you think your 12 sec car can beat it then I would have to say it wont. I have friends with hondas and dsms that do runs 10s. You dont have a fast car and you never will. As I said it shouldnt matter, if you feel that way then the only was we would know what a car ran at the track.

What in the hell are you talking about here??? You are so unbelievably ignorant it hurts me to read your posts. My 12 second car cant beat some honda in who-the-####-knows-where? SO??!? My car isnt and never will be fast. BRILLIANT! Did you deduce this by clicking on my profile and seeing that I run 12's? Good on ya!

The kid never said it runs 10s

I never said that he did. Maybe you should read my post again

All im saying is that it is possible for a fwd to get traction and maybe he did run that time, but it not your job to make him prove it. If you think a link to a time slip can do it I could ask my friends dad to give me a slip from his 8sec turbo mustang.

A spark of a relevant point, but you lost me with "8 second turbo mustang." In fact, reading it again I think you just contradicted yourself. Yes it is possible for a FWD car to do that. There is almost zero probability of this kid being able to do it, especially with a stock FWD DSM. And yes, you can just steal a timeslip. That seems to be what this person has done.

You guys are saying well this cant be true this guy is liar, all im saying is so what. Grow up the kid might have a fast car, maybe he dosent.

The credibility of the list is what is important here, not whether this kid "could conceivably have run a fast time."

posted and if you were to come up to me and ask me what I ran I would tell you 13.6. I admit I have more mods done and the car has run a faster time on my stock turbo. I did that for a reason I have nothing to pruve to anyone but myself.

The simple fact that you say this makes it untrue :thumbdown

On a personal level I want ANTILLES to come to the Md,D.C,Va area so he can race the cars in this area. I think you have something aginst Honda's so I want you to race a green streetable civic or a blue crx, who's owner also runs a blue civic( I know i might be starting trouble for this but there also some guy with a red integra from nu-image that would run you) sorry Rich at least you beat him.

Why do you want me to come to your hood again? So I can race you're fast friends? I dont have anything against Hondas. When I said "this isnt a honda forum" I meant that we dont put up with the amount of BS flying around that they do.
I dont see how me racing a Honda that is faster than my car proves anything except the fact that there is a Honda faster than my car, and I already know this. It would be a real waste to drive all the way to DC to prove it, as there are already several in my home state.

12.4 are you joking, I hope thats not your fastest time and you have more done to you car (). Nice picture tho it looked good. This car is my 4th dsm tho.The other ones kept or were going to be breaking all the time.Which is the reason why I got a honda for track use.There just easy to work on and power to weight ratio was a plus. Good luck with your car.

Thanks for the useless personal attack, I dont think I even need to address this quote point by point

Regards,

CVD

 

[pneumo]

This site DOES require a link to your valid timeslip in order to get your time up on the Fastest Times List. GAdriver doesn't have a valid link.

The reason for this rule, as I see it, is so the list isn't filled up with bogus times by lying braggarts. BS times reduces the credibility of those who have truely worked hard to go fast, and it demeans the significance of their acheivement. When I look at the list I want to know what has been done by who. I don't want to scrutinize the list and wonder if each time is real or not.

I also don't want to see the Fastest Times List turn into a wishlist. I see it at the track and on the Honduh forums. There is plenty of crapp talk about how some guys car should be fast enough for tens, even tho the fastest time it ran is in the 13's, then he gives some lame excuse like he couldn't hook up, or the suspension isn't right, so he calls it a ten second car anyway.

Not here, not on this site.

 

[NJ4cF3d]

my .02 cents: dont lie... which it looks like he did, why would someone be ashamed of their car and their times... thats bs that someone would steal or photo shop a time slip, if your that lame you should be taken outback and put down

im soo sick of people stating errr ten second cars... i need ten seconds, go talk to vin d again, it takes alot of time and money and effort to make anything that fast... and it pisses me off that some punk would fake something like that and disrespect the people that ACTUALLY HAVE A 10 second vehical, honda,ford,DSM,,, whatever.

ok no more flame..... you make me sick

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by pneumo
This site DOES require a link to your valid timeslip in order to get your time up on the Fastest Times List. GAdriver doesn't have a valid link.

The reason for this rule, as I see it, is so the list isn't filled up with bogus times by lying braggarts. BS times reduces the credibility of those who have truely worked hard to go fast, and it demeans the significance of their acheivement. When I look at the list I want to know what has been done by who. I don't want to scrutinize the list and wonder if each time is real or not.

I also don't want to see the Fastest Times List turn into a wishlist. I see it at the track and on the Honduh forums. There is plenty of crapp talk about how some guys car should be fast enough for tens, even tho the fastest time it ran is in the 13's, then he gives some lame excuse like he couldn't hook up, or the suspension isn't right, so he calls it a ten second car anyway.

Not here, not on this site.

I said I could get a 8sec time slip, if a time slip is requierd to pruve that even tho somebody has a link to a time slip it could still be fake. If you dont want to turn the fastest times into a wish list then you should not post anything fake on the list.Other then that what else can you do but yo cry over it and tell on that person to someone with the power to change it.

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by NJ4cF3d
my .02 cents: dont lie... which it looks like he did, why would someone be ashamed of their car and their times... thats bs that someone would steal or photo shop a time slip, if your that lame you should be taken outback and put down

im soo sick of people stating errr ten second cars... i need ten seconds, go talk to vin d again, it takes alot of time and money and effort to make anything that fast... and it pisses me off that some punk would fake something like that and disrespect the people that ACTUALLY HAVE A 10 second vehical, honda,ford,DSM,,, whatever.

ok no more flame..... you make me sick

Hahahaha, wow you have alot on your mind. I never said i did do that and never said that i woudl do that. I said that i could get a time slip fo an 8sec car to prove that even tho some people might have links to time slips they could still be fake. The PUNK in question said that he has an 11sec car. If you can pruve it fake then do it."Spill the beans" so to speak but you cant because the only one that can is the person that posted the time.I think it B.S i wouldnt talk to the kid myself. I dont see why people get upset over something so small. ARE you that pissed off that he up so high in the charts and maybe your not.Maybe its because you put 10 grand in your car to run 11s and he has a muffler and to all the rest of the internet he has a faster car then you.Or is it because he has a fast car and you want to take advice from a person that dosent know how to gap his own spark plugs.GET OVER IT, sh#t happens even if you had a stock car you might take him.So whats the point.

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by Antilles
I hate to get involved in your flaming here, but what you are saying makes no sense, and since you called me out specifically, I will argue my point. You are the only one on this thread saying he has nothing to prove, yet oddly enough you are the only one going around bragging about how fast you and your buddies' cars are. You are saying that your car is faster than the 13 second whatever in your profile. And saying that you dont want to post that because you dont feel the need to blow your own horn. Well that is exactly what you are trying to do.



Nope, that isnt what I was saying.



What in the hell are you talking about here??? You are so unbelievably ignorant it hurts me to read your posts. My 12 second car cant beat some honda in who-the-####-knows-where? SO??!? My car isnt and never will be fast. BRILLIANT! Did you deduce this by clicking on my profile and seeing that I run 12's? Good on ya!



I never said that he did. Maybe you should read my post again



A spark of a relevant point, but you lost me with "8 second turbo mustang." In fact, reading it again I think you just contradicted yourself. Yes it is possible for a FWD car to do that. There is almost zero probability of this kid being able to do it, especially with a stock FWD DSM. And yes, you can just steal a timeslip. That seems to be what this person has done.



The credibility of the list is what is important here, not whether this kid "could conceivably have run a fast time."



The simple fact that you say this makes it untrue :thumbdown



Why do you want me to come to your hood again? So I can race you're fast friends? I dont have anything against Hondas. When I said "this isnt a honda forum" I meant that we dont put up with the amount of BS flying around that they do.
I dont see how me racing a Honda that is faster than my car proves anything except the fact that there is a Honda faster than my car, and I already know this. It would be a real waste to drive all the way to DC to prove it, as there are already several in my home state.



Thanks for the useless personal attack, I dont think I even need to address this quote point by point

Regards,

CVD [/QUOTE
No, that does me untrue or false I posted some mods I have and, I put in a real time slips number that my car ran. I was trying to simply say which I should have said in the first place. That is your way to cocky to run 12s if you ran 10s then maybe you could talk to and about people the way you do. Im not trying to take sh#t from a "want to be know it all" when my integra with a 100 shot on slicks is faster then your car. No I never said that I knew the kid or I know he ran the time, but I said it could happen.You dont know if he ran it or not if he would have said 1.8 60 ft and a trap of 138 we would not be talking about it right now would we.If it fake pruve it but if you cant stop crying about it and shut up.

 

[raped]

I am sorry rhamlinii but your posts don't make any sense.

are you mad beacuse maybe your car is slow and he took your idea from you

No, this is incorrect. Why would you say some stupid shit like that. kilurv8's car went 11.38 no need to make up times there. GADriver doesnt belong on that list, Period.

 

[Antilles]

No, that does me untrue or false I posted some mods I have and, I put in a real time slips number that my car ran. I was trying to simply say which I should have said in the first place.

In English? I really cant make out what you are trying to say here. I'd have a better idea if you at least posted a more specific quote, instead of quoting my entire post.

That is your way to cocky to run 12s if you ran 10s then maybe you could talk to and about people the way you do. Im not trying to take sh#t from a "want to be know it all" when my integra with a 100 shot on slicks is faster then your car.

This thread has NOTHING to do with how fast my car is. Or for that matter how fast you say your car(s) is/are. Please, for the love of god, stop bench racing your cars against my profile. I havent brought up how fast my car is and I wont. Its IRRELEVANT to the topic. If you have nothing to prove, like you previously stated, then just stop.

I never said that I knew the kid or I know he ran the time, but I said it could happen.You dont know if he ran it or not if he would have said 1.8 60 ft and a trap of 138 we would not be talking about it right now would we.If it fake pruve it but if you cant stop crying about it and shut up.

You're right about one thing. I dont know that he did not run that time. However, it doesnt take any sort of brilliant deduction to come to the conclusion that he did not in fact run the time.
If he posted a 138mph trap speed with a "clamp on muffler" being his only mod, you can bet people would still be calling BS.

I say if it is real, prove it. Whoever takes care of the list should be responsible for keeping it clean and free of BS. The mod should PM this guy, and verify that he ran the time.
As stated, if the list is full of BS, then it is virtually useless as a resource to us. Thats like having a VFAQ on building a motor written by someone who simply stole pictures of a rebuild off another site, and made the rest up. Its completely useless and defeats the purpose of having it.

Regards,

Chris

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by Antilles



Stop bench racing your cars against my profile. I havent brought up how fast my car is and I wont. Its IRRELEVANT to the topic.



You're right about one thing. I dont know that he did not run that time. However, it doesnt take any sort of brilliant deduction to come to the conclusion that he did not in fact run the time.
If he posted a 138mph trap speed with a "clamp on muffler" being his only mod, you can bet people would still be calling BS.

I say if it is real, prove it. Whoever takes care of the list should be responsible for keeping it clean and free of BS. The mod should PM this guy, and verify that he ran the time.
As stated, if the list is full of BS, then it is virtually useless as a resource to us. Thats like having a VFAQ on building a motor written by someone who simply stole pictures of a rebuild off another site, and made the rest up.

You keep saying the same thing. Why dont you let someone with the power to change it help you out. Why keep making post crying about something you cant change.Why dont you do something that can makes a difference .Ill say it again stop crying about it. If your going to do something about it ,be my guest.Why post something here, go talk to a moderator or something.Ok your right about one thing this has nothing to do with me and you and my car and yours.I can respect that but I still cant see why you would be even think about asking this guy for advice.

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by raped
I am sorry rhamlinii but your posts don't make any sense.

No, this is incorrect. Why would you say some stupid shit like that. kilurv8's car went 11.38 no need to make up times there. GADriver doesnt belong on that list, Period.

If I dont make any sense why dony you go somewhere else and read on how to install a boost guage or something. You know your so damn stuiped your one of the guys who ask GADriver for advice . Im just wondering how long it took you to blow your motor.I never said anything about kilurv8s car ill respect anyones opinion on the matter. I have mind so you can have yours.But if you say something to me or about me. Ill have something to say to you. So if you need help ill tutor you or something do you have an aol. My screen name is rhamlinii, thats just for you.If you have a problum with the time in question why dont you do something that can make it be removed or do you want to bash on me somemore.

 

[kilurv8]

Hot damn, I didn't intend on this becoming a flame war. The integrity of the list needs to be maintained for several reasons. I use this list and www.dsmtimes.org to compare my driving and setup against. I do not have a picture of my time slip even though I carry it in my wallet every day so my time is not on the list here which I can accept. Some day I will get it put online.

I read RDKRT's thread about making it into the top 20 and when I read the list, this time slip jumped out at me and after some quick investigation, I recognized it to be bogus and call it out for people to see and the situation to be recitifed. I didn't really think any sort of debate could arise from it but I guess it sparked a flame in someones pants. Goes to show you that people will argue about anything on the internet.

 

[hostile]

Obviously it is fake, anyone who can't see that or wants to argue over the fact that is is real... is a moron.

Just PM an admin and hopefully he will take it down... and give the kid a PM telling him not to do stupid stuff like that on the forum.

 

[rhamlinii]

Originally posted by kilurv8
I guess it sparked a flame in someones pants. Goes to show you that people will argue about anything on the internet.

YUP, just go talk to someone about it.