HID Projector Idea.. Would it work?

[mnetwork]

I want to do an hid conversion on my talon and I was thinking.. Would it be possible to get the bulbs and then buy a set of those halo projector lights off ebay? Would that work well?

 

[VPrime]

It would work, bu not well.
The prijector housings on the ebay lights are not designed for HIDs. They will create a lot of glare and blind oncomming trafic. Also I have read online that it can also damage the projectors (melting it or some thing?)

The best way it to do a retrofit, where you get the projector out of a car equipped with HIDs and install them into your lights. The ebay lights have been said to be easier to do the retrofit on..

 

[mnetwork]

So the projectors in the ebay projectors wouldn't make a difference at all? It would be the same as if I put the bulbs in my stock lights?

 

[VPrime]

not the same.. i mean they are a little better, but not enough to make them safe (and legal)

 

[blackGSX2g]

It doesn't work well. The eBay projectors are designed (sometimes poorly) around the light output and bulb size it was made for. Get the eBay projector headlights, open them up and take out the stock projectors. Then throw in an OEM set of HID projectors and some D2S HID capsules and you will be way happier. Trust me, I've tried everything and OEM HID will always be the best.

 

[Woot]

BlackGSX2g, what bulbs or w/e are you running to get such a blue color of light?
Most HID's I've seen are more white then anything.

 

[GSX]

BlackGSX2g, what bulbs or w/e are you running to get such a blue color of light?
Most HID's I've seen are more white then anything.

Based on his profile:
HID retrofit with hybrid TSX projectors and RX330 bowls (wider beam pattern)

Not sure if it has changed since, but I would imagine it hasn't since his setup sounds pretty sweet. Hope this helps.

 

[mnetwork]

What is the best way to mount projectors in the headlight??

 

[blackGSX2g]

Yep, Pete is right on the combo. I had some good pics of the beam pattern in my gallery, but they all got deleted with the server change.

The colors you see when an HID car passes you comes from a prizm effect at the cut-off of the projector. Any of the higher temperature aftermarket HID bulbs all have less light output than stock. Factory is 4300K which provides the greatest light output while retaining a nice white output on the ground. Blue light also puts more fatigue on your eyes.

Check this tech guide to figure out how to adapt the projectors into your headlights.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162142

 

[TrystanGST]

If you get projector units with halos you will retain the halos even when you change out the projectors. Problem is, with the halos being on the low beams (at least mine were), you will never see them when the headlights are on. Maybe if you found some with the halos on the high beams....
Anyways I have to agree with blackGSX2g. The projectors in these aftermarket headlights usually have poor optics. You might not notice with halogen bulbs, but it will quickly become obvious if you were to try using xenon in them. Do it once, do it right. It's expensive, but if you want more light to the road, it's a great investment. And it looks good too!

 

[mnetwork]

Yeah.. HID conversions are too expensive for me now... Is there ever going to be a day when they make aftermarket headlights with HID projectors in them along with the bulbs and balasts and all that?? Like a kit?

 

[TrystanGST]

Yeah.. HID conversions are too expensive for me now... Is there ever going to be a day when they make aftermarket headlights with HID projectors in them along with the bulbs and balasts and all that?? Like a kit?

Not likely. The way the law stands currently, if your car did not come with HIDs from the factory, it's technically illegal to install them. This largely because of the "kits" out there that use poor components and cause a lot of grief. If you retrofit the HID system from a car that had it stock, with proper installation and adjustment, you cannot tell the car didn't come with it. It would be an extreme stroke of bad luck to run into some law enforcement that would ticket you over it.

 

[blackGSX2g]

^^Exactly. I've had my OEM units for close to a year now and have never had any trouble with the law or getting flashed by oncoming drivers.

To be honest, the retrofit is really not that hard. If you are fairly creative and can visualize things in your head, it can be done easily. Just make sure you aim them properly before you seal them up...or adapt the projector bowl to your stock headlight adjusters (like I did) so they can be adjusted with the level screw on the back.

 

[cumpersgsx]

i bought some ebay headlights and when i turned them on it had a crisp line that looked just as good as hid. It just didnt have the cool blue look and im sure the visibility isn't as fas as hid. Honestly they look really really good. I was conviced that i wanted to do the hid retrofitting and making my headlights but after seeing these im not even going to do it anymore.

just my .02

 

[blackGSX2g]

^My eBay projectors with Silverstar bulbs were way better than stock with a nice clean cut-off too. From what I've seen the optics are hit or miss: some are good and some are bad.

 

[BGRIPTP]

^My eBay projectors with Silverstar bulbs were way better than stock with a nice clean cut-off too. From what I've seen the optics are hit or miss: some are good and some are bad.

Link to your projectors?

 

[daren_p]

BlackGSX2g, what bulbs or w/e are you running to get such a blue color of light?
Most HID's I've seen are more white then anything.

Something I didn't know either before I started looking at HID kits (was just going to get the bulb/ballest kits with a higher K rating to get the colour I wanted, till I did some research) was its not the bulb that gives you the colour. The "cheep" aftermarket kits come in different K ratings to give you different colourd light since most are just installing them in reg halogen housings (which is illegal & very annoying now that alot of people are doing this) They higher the K rating makes more colour, first a blue shade then going up higher goes to the purple shades. The higher up in the K spectrum you go the more the colour & the less the light. In a proper HID system the light is actually white like sunlight & its the progector lenses themselves that give you the blue or purple where the light refracts at the cut off point. If you look at proper HID lights thaey have a very abrupt cut off line where all the light is below this point & almost no light is above it, this is what keeps them from blinding other drivers since HID's have more light output. When you put the HID bulbs in a halogen housing the light isn't very focused and goes way beyong a normal cut off point, creating a large amount of glare (blinding) for on coming traffic.

 

[blackGSX2g]

I'm running these headlights, but now have my RX330/TSX projector combo for HIDs in place of the ones that came in the eBay headlights.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-9...160050286208QQihZ006QQitemZ160050286208QQrdZ1

 

[RWKustoms]

Yeah, the retrofit isn't very hard to do as blackGSX2g said. I just did mine over a month ago, took me about 3 hours because I took my time. I used TSX projectors, bulbs, ballasts etc. Got it all off ebay for $400. I have the same ebay projectors as blackGSX2g and I followed this small write up from azdave :

http://www.rcaz.com/rcaz/sub indexes/ebayprojectorheadlamps/index.htm
http://www.rcaz.com/rcaz/sub indexes/E55_install/index.htm

 

[oldSchool90]

is there any kind of upgrade kit for the 1g 90-92 headlights. the flip ups? i was reading about something on another site bout upgrading to european bulbs enhances the brightness somewhat for the low beams but dramatically for the highs. any info?