help with 2.4L engine swap

[ragtp66]

I have a 96 spyder gs with the 2.4L/automatic stock. Question that I have is I bought a used engine from what was supposed to be a 96 eclipse vin 4a3ax35g5te399841 my vin is 4a3ax35g2te375xxx question I have is that i Did not notice until now that the "new" used motor has the spark plug wires going to a distributor on the passenger side of the cylinder head the intake manifold has 1 less sensor and configured differently on it and also the guide pins for the transmission bell housing are in the block on the "new" motor where the guides are still in the transmission on the original... can someone please offer some advice as to what I would need to do to make this work? can I? would I have to swap the intake from the old engine to the new engine and how much of an issue would the plugs being off the head be versus the coil packs mounted on the drivers side be. Would I have to swap the head as well. I did not know that there were 2 different 2.4L during the 96 year I am a lil bit lost please help

*** i added some pictures to help clarify if this is not an eclipse motor can someone tell me what it is ?

 

[GS-T_Newboost]

the plugs you are talkin about im not sure of but the pins in the tranny and the new motor is a easy fix. All you have to do is take one set out with pliers and make sure you have one on each side of the motor, 2 all togather. One in the front and one in the back.

 

[ragtp66]

Can anyone PLEASE help identify this motor and let me know if it will work and what I would have to change to make it work

 

[interex]

The engine is either from a Galant, or Expo. ALL Eclipse 4g64 engines came with coil packs, not distributors.

 

[ragtp66]

I definitely meant intake if you compare pictures 3&4 you can see where there is no ignition power transistor mounted on top of the intake nor are the bosses there to mount it. That is why I asked if it would be best to just remove my entire intake manifold from my eclipse motor and bolt it back to the galant motor. Aside from these two issues: 1 the different intake manifolds and 2 the distributor vs coil packs/crank angle censor I am asking if there is any other reason that this engine will not work? Or should I just pull it back out and take it back to the junkyard where I got it from and tell them they need to get me an eclipse motor and not a galant. I am sorry if I have not been clear in my questions but that is why I posted them in the noob forum as I have used the search button but have not been able to find the answers to my questions and was hoping some member with more knowledge would chime in. Thanks for all the responses and please keep them coming.

 

[woooop]

no it wont work !

 

[ragtp66]

Can you PLEASE explain WHY it won't work everything else visually appears to be correct.

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

Can you PLEASE explain WHY it won't work everything else visually appears to be correct.

First of all, the vin check should've and would've helped, but it didn't. The 8th digit is the vin code for the engine type and size. The other stuff is not needed, only the year (10th digit) is needed after that. The distributor is mechanically driven by the camshaft, which "distributes" the spark needed to the wires, which goes to the plugs, which fire the car. It can have a vacuum advance or electrical advance. Now the ignition power transistor and coil packs work on this same principle, but the CAS/CPS is the root for this signal along with the PCM. The 2 are not interchangeable, even with the same motor, but it has different input and output sensors.

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

The engine is either from a Galant, or Expo. ALL Eclipse 4g64 engines came with coil packs, not distributors.

No they didn't. I have in front of me at my shop a 97 Galant, with a 4g64, and its the same exact one depicted here. It has a distributor driven ignition system and no power transistor anywhere. I am even looking at the different years right now to see whats what with the changes.

 

[interex]

No they didn't. I have in front of me at my shop a 97 Galant, with a 4g64, and its the same exact one depicted here. It has a distributor driven ignition system and no power transistor anywhere. I am even looking at the different years right now to see whats what with the changes.

You sir need to re-read what I said. I said ALL ECLIPSE 4g64 engines! Not ALL 4g64 engines ever made.

The engine he posted pics of came from either an Expo, or Galant.

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

You sir need to re-read what I said. I said ALL ECLIPSE 4g64 engines! Not ALL 4g64 engines ever made.

The engine he posted pics of came from either an Expo, or Galant.

I am betting a Galant, just because that's the same one I just looked at earlier. Yeah, well, don't say both statements in the same sentence like that, it can confuse people. Just like it did me...

 

[ragtp66]

Ok I really do appreciate the replies, however my question still maybe not posed properly has not been answered .....if I were to remove the entire distributor from the end of the head and replace it with the cas/cps from the original motor and bolt up the coil packs and switch the intakes so that it has the one with the correct mounting point for the transistor ..will it work? I have both engines with all the parts here. To be clear what I am asking is does the CAS/CPS get driven off the end of the cam the same way that the distributor does?

 

[interex]

I do believe if you swap the CAS and the Distributor it might work. I've never tried, nor do I see any threads talking about it already.

 

[ragtp66]

Just a quick update. I called the place I got the engine from and they are taking it back and getting me a correct 96 Eclipse engine with only 68.000 miles on it so I chose not to tear the distributor out and cas/cps to see if that would have worked. Maybe in the future someone with more knowledge of the motors can try it but I wasn't real comfortable with being a guinea pig. But I do appreciate all the help and answers that were given.

Thanks to all.