help i got crankwalk

[poweradeTSI]

darn it my car has crankwalk what shouldi do any cheapfixes out there.

 

[tim4g63fast]

OK so it simulates crank angle position. Um so its not a crank angle sensor right. A crank angle sensor would be on the crank. It just produces an extra signal simulating crank spin. and as i said before it is redundant technology on 2g's. Its almost like putting another cam angle sensore and mabey a few balance shaft sensor's.

besides that about fftec i don't really care where you go but be carefull a lot of shops that don't do dsm work or don't often do dsm work screw stuff up.

Thats why I told you newlogics. they are strictly dsm shop with loads of experience.

 

[Tevenor]

OK so it simulates crank angle position. Um so its not a crank angle sensor right. A crank angle sensor would be on the crank. It just produces an extra signal simulating crank spin. and as i said before it is redundant technology on 2g's. Its almost like putting another cam angle sensore and mabey a few balance shaft sensor's.
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Whatever you are smoking, buy more.

Let me type slowly.....it....is....a....signal....defining....crank....position. If you look at the signal wave on a processor you will see 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT signals coming from the same input ( the intake cam). The assumption is made that the engine is mechanically in time. Based on that assumption, it is a crank angle position SIGNAL.

And it is NOT redundant on a 2G. Just because the 2 sensors are now split does not make the need for them any less. To make it plain and simple: EVERY DSM NEEDS A CRANK POSITION SIGNAL AND A CAM POSITION SIGNAL TO RUN. No if ands or buts. The reason 2G's "die" is because the crank slides so much laterally that the trigger plate eats the plasting sensor housing like a weedwacking cutting crass along a fence.

 

[poweradeTSI]

fftec(full function technology) is a dsm shop. should i put a used 6 bolt in my car because im broke.

 

[tim4g63fast]

well depending on the mileage. but i would say at least re ring and bearing it. at the very least. also buy a gasket kit replace front and rear main seals and I would recommend new oil pump and timing componets. use nothing but a OEM timing belt. no kragen crap. um you can use a kragen head gasket but not recommended if you want to boost high.

I know re ringed blocks with everything i mentioned using old pistons and rods making tons of power. but if you can spare a real rebuild do it. its far better in the long run.


and for the whole cas thing. yes you do have two signals coming from and spun by the cam. so i don't know how much of a crank angle sensor you can call it. it just sends a crank signal. It in know way actually senses the crank moving it still judges the crank moving by the cam moving

 

[Tevenor]

And for the whole cas thing. Yes, you do have two signals coming from and spun by the cam. So I don't know how much of a crank angle sensor you can call it. It just sends a crank signal. It in no way actually senses the crank moving. It still judges the crank moving by the cam moving.

What would you call it then? If it sent 2 identical signals out, I would agree with you. But it doesn't. And therefore it does act as a Crank Position Sensor. I can estimate the crank position by putting a sensor on the Intake cam, exhaust cam, oil pump drive gear, crank pulley, idler pulley, etc, and given the right assumptions and calculations get a semi-accurate crank position estimation. What would you call those? "Oil pump angle sensor"? "Idler Pulley Position Sensor"? Of course not, that would be stupid wouldn't it. The ECU doesn't care if you call it "A double Cam Signal" or "Estimated Crank Position Signal But Not Really" or even "A super mystical orb of electronics with a cherry on top". It needs a signal to estimate/read crank position. The second signal from a 1G cas provides this just like the sensor at the crank on 2G's does the same, albeit more accurate, thing.

This is way off topic and more of a pissing match at this point. If you really feel calling the 1G cas both a Cam angle sensor and a Crank angle sensor insults your intelligence, take it up with Mitsubishi.

 

[poweradeTSI]

well i got a 6bolt block project rebuild ill begin soon

 

[tim4g63fast]

what did you end up deciding to rebuild with?

 

[poweradeTSI]

im just gonna go stock rebuild with forged pistons thinker head gasket and arp bolt and studs i bought a used 6 bolt block friday