got the head off, some pics.

[my first 420a]

so i got the head off i got some pics off the head and the block. looks like time for a rebuild, probably gonna have to buy a new head dont think its rebuilable though

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Hope you can see it clear i could put some other pics up if youd like to see more let me know.

 

[Bud92gsx]

What happend? Why did you take the head off?? Whats all the shhhh in #2 and #4???

 

[AlphaAssault]

What happend? Why did you take the head off?? Whats all the shhhh in #2 and #4???

look at the valves. looked like he jumped time real bad; those valves are toast.

 

[MichaelSuch]

Wow how much were you revving?

 

[DSMified92]

so what happened did u jump time....how many valves did u drop 3 or 4

 

[Doubt it runs]

look at the valves. looked like he jumped time real bad; those valves are toast.

toast just gets burnt. those are broke the f*ck off! ha

did your timing belt break or you mechanically over rev the motor?

 

[Bud92gsx]

Yeah I noticed three of them were broken off. But advancing timing, or letting the timing slip will cause that?

 

[my first 420a]

well im pretty sure i dropped 4 valves yeah the head is gone there is no rebuilding that thing. as far as the block the cylinder wall seem to be fine im just gonna need new pistons and gonna buy a new head, what happened was i jumped timing without knowing it it wasnt from high reving or anything i dont think and no my timing belt didnt break its actually in really good condition. so yeah i dont know how it jumped timing.

 

[Kastigir]

well im pretty sure i dropped 4 valves yeah the head is gone there is no rebuilding that thing. as far as the block the cylinder wall seem to be fine im just gonna need new pistons and gonna buy a new head, what happened was i jumped timing without knowing it it wasnt from high reving or anything i dont think and no my timing belt didnt break its actually in really good condition. so yeah i dont know how it jumped timing.

Bad tensioner most likely. Any idea how many miles were on the T-belt?

 

[my first 420a]

Bad tensioner most likely. Any idea how many miles were on the T-belt?

no clue

 

[Novice]

Argh, more timing horror stories. How much is the new head and pistons going to set you back?

 

[mikEclipse99]

oouch, that hurts to look at

 

[Daaan]

Bad tensioner most likely. Any idea how many miles were on the T-belt?

+1 for faulty tensioner. Did you replace the tensioner at the same time you replaced the timing belt?

 

[j-jamrod]

sell it as aluminum scrap, and find a head in good condition..... why so serious??

 

[my first 420a]

Argh, more timing horror stories. How much is the new head and pistons going to set you back?

dont know yet i was looking at a rebuilt head for 300 but idk about pistons

 

[my first 420a]

+1 for faulty tensioner. Did you replace the tensioner at the same time you replaced the timing belt?

i never replaced the t belt it was in good condition when i bought it so idk about the tensioner

 

[Anarchology]

New head and new pistons on that block bored over. Clean that mofo out like its no tomorrow! Those pics are painful to look at.

 

[GalantGreg]

Have you thought of doing an Evo swap?

 

[dsmnightracer]

take it to the shop and have them look at it, mine was that bad and it was able to safe it.

 

[my first 420a]

New head and new pistons on that block bored over. Clean that mofo out like its no tomorrow! Those pics are painful to look at.

yeah thats what im thinking, im not looking to spend alot right now what would you go with?

 

[my first 420a]

Have you thought of doing an Evo swap?

no, how much would that run me?

 

[BoredDSM]

no, how much would that run me?

If he means evo motor that only works on the 420a eclipses which you don't have. But if your doing evo pistons etc then yes it can be done. I believe a good set of evo pistons run around 80 bucks possibly. That is used though.

 

[tkelly27]

I kept my damaged heads for mockup/porting practice. When you're done with them you can sell them as scrap.

Looks like the cylinders will need to be bored to clean up the scratches. I got away with not doing it when my valves met their demise (RIP). Good excuse to get forged pistons and some nice rods for them to sit on. Just because you're SOL on that front doesn't mean you need to put it back to stock. Also, pull your turbo off and check your tubine. You could have gotten a free clipping job, I did : (

Go to the junkyard and get a head for $50 or $75. if you're really picky, send the junkyard one to a machine shop and have them do the valves for $100. If you know where to look they are practically everywhere.

If you do the timing yourself, replace and inspect everything based on the VFAQ to the letter. I've seen or done everything from rotating the tensioner the wrong way, new key ways ground into the crank sprocket, harmonic balancer failure, 200k mile timing cover cracking into the belt, etc. Should I ever need to get or work on another DSM, the first thing I will do is spend the $300 or whatever and get all new timing components, which for me includes everything under the timing cover and the cover itself.

EVO swap? Think you can share some of whatever you are on? : D

 

[casperfast]

ouch, i knew thats what happened to your car, i wont be seeing you on the street any time soon

 

[casperfast]

I kept my damaged heads for mockup/porting practice. When you're done with them you can sell them as scrap.

Looks like the cylinders will need to be bored to clean up the scratches. I got away with not doing it when my valves met their demise (RIP). Good excuse to get forged pistons and some nice rods for them to sit on. Just because you're SOL on that front doesn't mean you need to put it back to stock. Also, pull your turbo off and check your tubine. You could have gotten a free clipping job, I did : (

Go to the junkyard and get a head for $50 or $75. if you're really picky, send the junkyard one to a machine shop and have them do the valves for $100. If you know where to look they are practically everywhere.

If you do the timing yourself, replace and inspect everything based on the VFAQ to the letter. I've seen or done everything from rotating the tensioner the wrong way, new key ways ground into the crank sprocket, harmonic balancer failure, 200k mile timing cover cracking into the belt, etc. Should I ever need to get or work on another DSM, the first thing I will do is spend the $300 or whatever and get all new timing components, which for me includes everything under the timing cover and the cover itself.

EVO swap? Think you can share some of whatever you are on? : D

where in portland area can u find dsm parts that cheap? no wrecking yards ive been to