good sub box

[tonypanda]

i need some help finding a box that will fit good in the back of my 95 talon. i either want to run 2 12s or 2 15s yes i know people are gonna say 15s will be to much but i like loud bass and i want a loud system i just cant find a box that will fit good so i need some help

 

[Bluefire16]

How bout you make one? Its not hard...

 

[90moneypit]

I had ONE GOOD 12 in my 1g and it would rattle your eyeballs in your sockets. Buy top quality subs and an old school high amp draw amplifier and you'll be fine. As far as a box... You can have efficient OR pretty, not both. Pick your box based on what your subs require not the other way around...

 

[bradselph]

Check this guy out i been looking at him for a box in my spyder his work looks ok

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[misterjose]

i think one 12 is enough for our cars. try one out first because i have an alpine type r on my 1g and i set all the bass knobs to zero because its already loud enough. plus you want to hear your car every now and then.

 

[bradselph]

i have a single 10" bass tube in my car and its plenty loud on only 800 watts

 

[90trbogsx]

Why don't you go with Jl audio w7 ?? They have them in sizes 8' 10' 12' and then the mighty power 13.3 I believe. Can't go wrong I have a w7 10in and it subs ..

 

[tonypanda]

yea iv checked that guys boxes out and im thinking about gettin the one for 95-99 eclipse/talon with 2 12s or 2 15s

 

[white92talontsi]

Self built box.

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Single 15. The right sub and the right box will surprise you.

I've pulled a 145 on a termlab on a single DD9510(yes a 10).

The eclipse is big enough to fit 2 18's if you like.
Yes this is a 99 Eclipse GS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQ5sU40mLA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[tonypanda]

yea jl audio is great and there 13.5 and the 13.5 is also like 800 i was thinking about just getting one 15 like a kicker cvx

 

[Detroit Style]

yea jl audio is great and there 13.5 and the 13.5 is also like 800 i was thinking about just getting one 15 like a kicker cvx

What are you trying to achieve with this set up? The human ear can only hear down to 30hz. A single 10 will play that, given the box is spec'd to the sub itself. A single 10 will be more than loud enough, and play all the low notes with ease.

You also need to realize, any amp that's worth having has, a built in sub sonic filter. Which will cut off at 30hz, again which is the lowest you can hear. It also takes extreme power to play anything lower than that.

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

The eclipse is big enough to fit 2 18's if you like.
Yes this is a 99 Eclipse GS
YouTube - SS Audio's LMS 18's Playing Throw It Up Screwed

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Holy hell. That windshield is about to fall apart. Lil' Jon may not be the best thing to play with a spider windshield haha

 

[white92talontsi]

Holy hell. That windshield is about to fall apart. Lil' Jon may not be the best thing to play with a spider windshield haha

Car had 5 windshield's put in it before it was retired.



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[tec_41]

I used to run 2 10" Kicker CVR's in the largest sealed box they could be in. It was just too heavy and I had no hatch room...so I built a properly tuned ported box for just 1 of them. It's as loud as the 2 were, easily. A little sloppier, but that's just how I wanted it.

 

[90trbogsx]

This is my cousins set up in his 1g. I have the same thing but in my impala with a ported box.

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Jl audio w7 10in with Jl audio 1000/1 amp + Jl audio 300/4 amp ...

 

[90moneypit]

What are you trying to achieve with this set up? The human ear can only hear down to 30hz. A single 10 will play that, given the box is spec'd to the sub itself. A single 10 will be more than loud enough, and play all the low notes with ease.

You also need to realize, any amp that's worth having has, a built in sub sonic filter. Which will cut off at 30hz, again which is the lowest you can hear. It also takes extreme power to play anything lower than that.

I don't think you're as informed as you think you are about audio. The human ear can hear from 20Hz to 20kHz and any amplifier 'worth having' should have the capability to produce beyond that range. For example, I'd say the Orion XTR2250 would certainly be worth having and does not come with a subsonic filter. That specific amplifier bridged down on a pair of XTR15's almost killed me (via drowning in the phlegm it knocked loose in my chest) over 20 years ago... I dealt in quality audio equipment then and most of the 'modern' equipment leaves much to be desired. One customer had his Orion (old school not the modern crap) equipment custom installed at a JL dealer who adjusted the gain down to nothing trying to get him to buy his 'superior' JL subs. He called me asking WTF happened to his system's output so I was nice enough to drive out with my gold reference CD's and retuned for optimum... It cleared his shop of both customers and staff to see what horsemen of the Apocalypse had arrived! The owner then asked me to leave the property as I was disturbing his demonstrations inside... Even with the three layers of dynamat, it still crinkled the panels in that car while sounding like a studio monitor on steroids inside. Saddest part was the guy was a Madonna fan

 

[white92talontsi]

A proper set up sealed box will not need a ssf.
With a ported box the ssf needs to be set just below your port tuning.

I run transmission line boxes. Can't be beat.

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[90moneypit]

Never a fan of the bandpass boxes but you have some skills to build the one pictured above white92. They're good for the boom but I like the tight hit and make up for it with high excursion. Honestly though, for my fiance's car, I tossed a ported 10" and an Alpine monoblock in her car. She just wouldn't have appreciated something like a 8th order, she just wanted her car to "Go boom like yours does". I guess I should be happy I got away with the $400 route instead of what I consider a good system. Hell, she thought her Z24 should have beat my old 1g NT because her motor was bigger

 

[white92talontsi]

Never a fan of the bandpass boxes but you have some skills to build the one pictured above white92. They're good for the boom but I like the tight hit and make up for it with high excursion. Honestly though, for my fiance's car, I tossed a ported 10" and an Alpine monoblock in her car. She just wouldn't have appreciated something like a 8th order, she just wanted her car to "Go boom like yours does". I guess I should be happy I got away with the $400 route instead of what I consider a good system. Hell, she thought her Z24 should have beat my old 1g NT because her motor was bigger

That's not a bandpass. That is a transmission line.



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[cantgo2fast]

Ditch the subs and go FASTER

I think one properly done 10 is enough for any car. Ive been in an integra with 2 twelves and i thought my brain was gonna start draining out my nose. Im more of a fan of clarity, who cares how much boom you have if it drowns out the rest of the music. So i would rather spend the money on one properly done subwoofer a nice amp and nice door speakers.

You can defenitely build a box to fit in the spare tire enclosure I think thats the cleanest way to do it.

 

[white92talontsi]

Ditch the subs and go FASTER

I think one properly done 10 is enough for any car. Ive been in an integra with 2 twelves and i thought my brain was gonna start draining out my nose. Im more of a fan of clarity, who cares how much boom you have if it drowns out the rest of the music. So i would rather spend the money on one properly done subwoofer a nice amp and nice door speakers.

You can defenitely build a box to fit in the spare tire enclosure I think thats the cleanest way to do it.

I'd hate to see you sit in my buddies truck with 4 sundown 18's and 4 sundown saz3000's. You would probably die, .

And if the system is properly setup then your mids and high should be easily heard no matter how much bass you have.




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[Detroit Style]

I don't think you're as informed as you think you are about audio. The human ear can hear from 20Hz to 20kHz and any amplifier 'worth having' should have the capability to produce beyond that range. For example, I'd say the Orion XTR2250 would certainly be worth having and does not come with a subsonic filter. That specific amplifier bridged down on a pair of XTR15's almost killed me (via drowning in the phlegm it knocked loose in my chest) over 20 years ago... I dealt in quality audio equipment then and most of the 'modern' equipment leaves much to be desired. One customer had his Orion (old school not the modern crap) equipment custom installed at a JL dealer who adjusted the gain down to nothing trying to get him to buy his 'superior' JL subs. He called me asking WTF happened to his system's output so I was nice enough to drive out with my gold reference CD's and retuned for optimum... It cleared his shop of both customers and staff to see what horsemen of the Apocalypse had arrived! The owner then asked me to leave the property as I was disturbing his demonstrations inside... Even with the three layers of dynamat, it still crinkled the panels in that car while sounding like a studio monitor on steroids inside. Saddest part was the guy was a Madonna fan

When you are young and have all of your hearing, you can hear that range. As you get older, your hearing naturally degrades. So, the 20Hz to 20kHz thing is not entirely true. Especially, after having loud stereos, working around loud equipment, etc.

While I agree with you that most modern gear is not up to the performance of old stuff. At the same time, you can not easily find good, working old gear. Also, modern gear is much more efficient that old gear. Given, I'm not talking about budget low end or beyond low end flea market stuff. Any amp out today, or even almost any amp with in the past 10 years, will have a built in subsonic filter of some sort. Rather its in the form of a selectable option, or just there and not able to be changed.

Also, Dyanmat does not stop or inhibit rattles, warping, or other deforming of panels. It is simply a means of cutting out unwanted noise. The same job can be done with a spray in sound barrier, or any tar based sheet. It simply works like you putting your hands over your ears. It will help block unwanted outside noise.

 

[Dr Funkenstein]

Check this guy out i been looking at him for a box in my spyder his work looks ok

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Yeah, whenever I'm at the point of doing my audio, I'm definitely getting a one 12" box from this dude. Awesome find, thanks.

 

[90moneypit]

As far as hearing loss due to loud stereo's, concerts, loud equipment... 20 years of all the above plus high powered rifles and all I've lost is a few bells (10 bells to a decibel) in the 1-2kHz range (most human speech fall in this range). It's all about knowing your limits and using ear plugs when you shoot. It takes prolonged exposure to really loose your hearing or one massive event. If you slept with your head between a couple high excursion subs or firing an M16 in a close walled canyon. I lost those few bells by not wearing ear plugs at work where the constant machinery drone did most of the damage.

edit:
For anyone looking for an old school amp. A quick ebay search showed 2 or 3 capable Orion amps including a 2250 sx for under $600... Quality is out there, you just have to look for it and maybe wait to get what you want instead of buying what's available. Kinda like buying the right parts for your DSM!

 

[tonypanda]

well its gonna be my dd but also gonna use it for spl comps and stuff like that